[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

[Marvin]

I'll chip in $1k from my next paycheck.

These types need to start sweating regarding their words. Start shutting this shit down, and maybe we'll get less byuu-style situations.

Not opposing this will lead to it being repeated in the liberal press.

My concern with defamation is that Epik will make the Rekieta argument: "Yes, we had actual malice. Yes, we knew it was false. Yes, we don't pretend to have ever thought it was true. BUT KiwiFarms is so bad, they're basically undefamable!" It didn't really work out for him, but I can easily see some mongoloid judge nodding along to it, or any other number of retarded reasons why KF is icky and therefore per se defamation isn't relevant.

The undefamable plaintiff is far closer to a legal curiosity than something that someone would seriously have to worry about.

Practically speaking this case is more or less a slam dunk.

I guess I just have less than no confidence in the courts. I honestly don't believe that there is any judge in the US who would resist the troon pressure and rule in favor of the Farms, regardless of the facts or law in question.

Giant embarrassing failures of the US legal system happen and they're definitely worrying. That being said, they're exceptions, not the rule.

The US legal system has proven itself to be extremely effective and resilient to fuckery.

The biggest criticism of the US legal system is that it's expensive as fuck, not so much that it regularly makes huge errors in its conclusions.

The rest of the world could take lessons from the US system.

Wouldn't part of proving defamation be the knowledge that the statement was false? Sounds like a pretty good way to lose 75 grand if they can just drop the case by saying "my twanny frens say it aaaaaaall the twme, how cwould I know it wasn't twooo"?

Reckless disregard for the truth can be an alternative instead of intent, I think.

Something about their responses to null just seem off to me. No self respecting company would outright make posts saying they lied about something so heinous like it's such a tee-hee funny gotcha moment. Either they have zero respect for themselves and others or there is some fuckery at foot here I think.

They just let some troon lover with a vendetta run the account.

 

[Amanda Byrnes]

Hell fucking yes, there needs to be a precedent for dumb shit. As a lurker for years, this site has brought me countless hours of amusement, I will absolutely chip in.

If this doesn’t even make it to trial, I hope there’s a public apology that acknowledges this astronomical fuck up on their part.

 

[YOU'RE TAKING TOO LONG]

Are two united states pennies acceptable? I just want to throw in my two cents

 

[Null]

Is there anyway we can use crypto to get to your escrow? A middle man perhaps?

If you are set on using crypto, honestly just send it to me, but be aware it will not be explicitly legally bound for its stated purpose.

 

[MarMar049]

The best possible thing Epik can do is to fire the person running the Twitter account and at least say "erm asktually the stuff they posted isn't aren't our company values" in a follow-up tweet, but I honestly feel like Epic might just double down tomorrow.

 

[elastic eye]

I've mined around 4 XMR over the years and have just let it sit in my wallet. Sent it to Kraken and will be turning it into fiat to help contribute. Absolutely onboard to help set a precedent. Lets send a message

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.

I never donate to anything online, but for this place, I’d donate. This website has provided me moments of happiness in despair, a place to be myself (no, not like my username suggests, calm down).

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

Let me reiterate. Im very retarded. How does one do a money order? Take my money jersh

Go to the post office -> give money -> get a piece of paper -> mail it

https://www.usps.com/shop/money-orders.htm

If you have a paypal account and you don't care about privacy you can buy and transfer crypto on their website.

Get Null to send you a wallet address just for you if you do this. If you deposit into the wallets in the footer, you may have your account suspended. This happened to someone juicing the forum with CashApp. He was permanently banned with zero explanation.

Anyway I voted and pledge to financially support the forum if Null goes through with it.

 

[thhrang]

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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is behind these retarded posts on Epik's twitter.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/meuah/

I want to point out that someone also named Miao, who has the same fucking catboy design, also lives in Portugal, and has displayed the same art as the Epik Miao on Twitter, once attempted to start a VTuber company named UwU.tv with the goal of attempting to groom women into a harem,, key points including trying to woo them by ordering them extravagant amounts of UberEats and trying to get them to play games with him whilst he paid his 'company's' jannies, if I recall correctly; it has been a while since I've had to recall the specifics of this story.

Pipkin Pippa did an interview with him on July 15th 2022, where the girls from this company showed up in chat, shat on him, accused him of being a bad person, and Pippa herself made fun of him to his face. Beginning of the Virtual YouTuber thread discussion as it was happening.

 

[Wasabi Wahhābī]

Lmao at making that assertion on Twitter as if CP has never been posted there.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I've mined around 4 XMR over the years and have just let it sit in my wallet. Sent it to Kraken and will be turning it into fiat to help contribute. Absolutely onboard to help set a precedent. Lets send a message

That's half the reason I want to donate crypto. I can donate USD, but I have money sitting around in cold wallets that I don't factor into my savings. If I could empty out a few of those wallets, it would be one less thing I have to worry about.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

also if anyone thinks I'm kidding, I'm an incredibly retarded person and gave over 500 to fishtank's wefund thing and did it knowing I was incredibly unlikely to make any sort of money off it so for something like the farms which is a thousand times more important to me than sam hyde's torture home? I gotchu null. Its not like the money would be better off in my hands anyhow lmfao.

If the retard war needs some real retard power behind it on the kiwi side of things, trust me no one more retarded than me when it comes to handing out shekels to autistic things I like.

 

[pyrogon]

Go to the post office -> give money -> get a piece of paper -> mail it

https://www.usps.com/shop/money-orders.htm

Get Null to send you a wallet address just for you if you do this. If you deposit into the wallets in the footer, you may have your account suspended. This happened to someone juicing the forum with CashApp. He was permanently banned with zero explanation.

Anyway I voted and pledge to financially support the forum if Null goes through with it.

Of fucking course paypal would do that...

 

[AssignedEva]

If you have a paypal account and you don't care about privacy you can buy and transfer crypto on their website.

I have a suspicion that Liz Dong-Jones will continue his complete disregard for laws and do his upmost to leak the real identities of donators the moment news breaks that a lawsuit is being crowdfunded. I'm willing to wager postal orders/Western Union's off the table and crypto's a non option, so unless going down the currency exchange, stuffing a bunch of dollars in an envelope and then posting that to Vermont is an option I think I'd be pretty cagey about using an online payment portal with any of my cards.

 

[Heed Not]

Not going to blow up your notifications by quoting it but yes you should sue and yes I'll donate and also you should do a gold coin run  when you win.

 

[Super Guido]

It's just some millennial Junior Social Media Manager who overdosed on muh irony. Corporations have been doing this shit for at least a decade now, it makes them "relatable" to retards.

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There's friendly bants, and then there's publicly accusing your former client of being a pedophile. I do agree they probably learned it from those guys, but it's frustrating how autistic they are to not understand the social media managers for companies like Wendy's aren't just spewing libel like say, "the original owner of McDonald's was a serial killer and sold the restaurant as part of a plea deal."

 

[TooManyKittens]

Can we write and mail an old fashioned bank check without doxxing ourselves or having our bank toss us?

I'm old and im dumb with crypto

 

[30+GameOvers]

I want to point out that someone also named Miao, who has the same fucking catboy design, also lives in Portugal, and has displayed the same art as the Epik Miao on Twitter, once attempted to start a VTuber company named UwU.tv with the goal of attempting to grooming women into a harem,, key points including trying to woo them by ordering them extravagant amounts of UberEats and trying to get them to play games with him whilst he paid his 'company's' jannies, if I recall correctly; it has been a while I had to recall the specifics of this story.

Pipkin Pippa did an interview with him on July 15th 2022, where the girls from this company showed up in chat, shat on him, accused him of being a bad person, and Pippa herself made fun of him to his face. Beginning of the Virtual YouTuber thread discussion as it was happening.

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please be real please be real please be real...
and then show this in court

 

[MarMar049]

I want to point out that someone also named Miao, who has the same fucking catboy design, also lives in Portugal, and has displayed the same art as the Epik Miao on Twitter, once attempted to start a VTuber company named UwU.tv with the goal of attempting to grooming women into a harem,, key points including trying to woo them by ordering them extravagant amounts of UberEats and trying to get them to play games with him whilst he paid his 'company's' jannies, if I recall correctly; it has been a while I had to recall the specifics of this story.

Pipkin Pippa did an interview with him on July 15th 2022, where the girls from this company showed up in chat, shat on him, accused him of being a bad person, and Pippa herself made fun of him to his face. Beginning of the Virtual YouTuber thread discussion as it was happening.

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This CAN'T be a coincidence. there is too much shit that correlates together.
The fact that Epik potentially hired a fucking vtuber catboy who tried a create a haram with a bunch of other v-tubers as the Director of Information Security and possibly the twitter account manager is insane.

 

[FBI Neighbor]

The best possible thing Epik can do

You speak as if Epik is a reasonable company, not one that already hired someone with an anime PFP on Linked In and then gave them the keys to speak on their behalf online. Hoping they get a lolcow thread pretty soon.