[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

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Should we sue Epik LLC?

  • Yes, I'll chip in.

    Votes: 1,709 55.2%
  • Yes, but I'm broke.

    Votes: 1,220 39.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 79 2.6%
  • No, but I'll chip in regardless.

    Votes: 86 2.8%

  • Total voters
    3,094
Depends on how you set it up, if it's an IOLTA or similar setup and you have consulted with a lawyer about how good the odds are, sure.

If not well, I might chip in but not as much, I'd prefer the security of the money being put on solely on the case.
These bold lies by companies like Cloudflare and Epik are part of the ball which keeps rolling and allowing LFJ to have the clout he does. Service providers backing out is an immediate consequence of Matthew Prince and Epik lying.
 
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.
I would love to pitch in, but unfortunately I am a broke faggot. Tell ya what, if you want someone's desk shit on, hit me up.
 
Should people interested in donating just use the current crypto addresses? Are you setting up an IOLTA account or anything like that? Would that even be possible given the severity of your debanking?

I don't really care if it goes directly to you, or Kiwifarms LLC; but maybe the IRS niggers would.

I hope you take these faggots for everything, lock, stock, and barrel.

Sorry if this is late and already answered.
 
What makes you think they care if he's a pedophile? We have shitloads of people on here who have done terrible things and most people still think the Farms is the second coming of Hitler.
Then we have the legal system, or dumb people on social media, who say that there is nothing wrong with pedophiles if they fight evil nazi chuds
I want that on paper, never to be forgotten
(also because people digging into this troon further would be hilarious on it's own, lawsuit or no, especially if it's confirmed the two are one and the same)
 
These bold lies by companies like Cloudflare and Epik are part of the ball which keeps rolling and allowing LFJ to have the clout he does. Service providers backing out is an immediate consequence of Matthew Prince and Epik lying.
IF this suit goes well, could Cloudflare or others be next? Or is Price too far in the past now?
 
Should people interested in donating just use the current crypto addresses? Are you setting up an IOLTA account or anything like that? Would that even be possible given the severity of your debanking?

I don't really care if it goes directly to you, or Kiwifarms LLC; but maybe the IRS niggers would.

I hope you take these faggots for everything, lock, stock, and barrel.

Sorry if this is late and already answered.
You can send whatever you want to me in crypto, but as answered, I intend to set up a proper escrow for fiat only.
 
There's friendly bants, and then there's publicly accusing your former client of being a pedophile. I do agree they probably learned it from those guys, but it's frustrating how autistic they are to not understand the social media managers for companies like Wendy's aren't just spewing libel like say, "the original owner of McDonald's was a serial killer and sold the restaurant as part of a plea deal."
Of course, but here's the thing: Snarky social media accounts have been around for, as I said, at least a decade, maybe 15 years. There are now legal adults walking among us who grew up in a world where this was considered normal, they didn't know anything else, and they never considered why this happens or where the red lines lie. Kids who were 10 in 2010 when Tumblr feminism was all the rage have university degrees now. They also have jobs, and they're just trying to emulate what they've been seeing ever since they first got on the internet, and they fucking suck at it.
 
Of course, but here's the thing: Snarky social media accounts have been around for, as I said, at least a decade, maybe 15 years. There are now legal adults walking among us who grew up in a world where this was considered normal, they didn't know anything else, and they never considered why this happens or where the red lines lie. Kids who were 10 in 2010 when Tumblr feminism was all the rage have university degrees now. They also have jobs, and they're just trying to emulate what they've been seeing ever since they first got on the internet, and they fucking suck at it.
I getcha. I just wish there was someone with the company, who was assertive, to tell them where the lines were; if they pull some shenanigans, they can go wait in the unemployment line.

Back in my day, even speds were still expected to behave like normal people.

Such is life in Clown World.
 
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I echo the skepticism some show here regarding the justice system's integrity and fairness towards Hate Speechᵀᴹ Enthusiasts.
Even when a legal system is just and fair, a lawsuit's outcome is never guaranteed. The point is, if we share the cost between hundreds of farmers, we have nothing to lose - and everything to gain, from legal fees and a written apology to a historical legal precedent (for the site, maybe the whole Internet).

If a slim chance of winning isn't worth 5 bucks to you, I'd love to take a look at your 2023 spendings and find out you didn't waste multiple times that in dumb shit.
 
Does it have to be a check/money order or can I just mail cash?
Tell me how to easily donate without getting my bank account jew’d and if possible,
Getting a MO is easy and you can pay for it in cash.
If your super paranoid just stop at a random town post office. Get the MO then leave. Fill it out and mail it from some place else.

What epik did what outright admit in public that they broke the law/contract but knowingly did it.
My guess is epik is circling the drain and everyone who works there knows it. So no one gives a shit.

Lawsuit or not. Im going to send in my MO regardless to the general fund. Null can use it for legal funds or pizza. I don't care. This forum has done alot to keep the internet a fun place and its worth supporting.
 
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These bold lies by companies like Cloudflare and Epik are part of the ball which keeps rolling and allowing LFJ to have the clout he does. Service providers backing out is an immediate consequence of Matthew Prince and Epik lying.
I get that and I fully agree with it, but the legal reality *might* be different, I would personally be more secure in opening my wallet if you can get your lawyer to put out even a sentence long statement on how much of a case you realistically have against these shitheads; much as I'd like to believe you could make them fold like a bad poker hand, legal issues have a way to turn stupid in unexpected ways and having a practicing lawyer's word would be most reassuring.
 
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They share the same birthdates, this is definitely him.
We already knew the Miaoooww Twitter account is confirmed to be Marcelo Goncalves. The thing left to confirm 100% without a shadow of a doubt is that the Miaouwo VTuber-affiliated account and all the UwU.tv stuff is also him. It's a very safe assumption to make, though; given the re-used art on accounts, literal same catboy design, username, and living in Portugal.
 
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.
This is extremely retarded and i hope you know that.


dew it
 
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