DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

Where is DSP?

  • He is in Connecticut visiting family/funeral

    Votes: 213 47.9%
  • He and Khet are on a honeymoon style trip

    Votes: 12 2.7%
  • He has an issue (s) with the HOA requiring immediate fixes

    Votes: 27 6.1%
  • Comcast/ISP/Internet Issues

    Votes: 16 3.6%
  • He is taking a Kino Casino style break by not announcing when he comes back

    Votes: 30 6.7%
  • Phil and/or Khet Health Issue

    Votes: 48 10.8%
  • This is a social experiment from DSP

    Votes: 99 22.2%

  • Total voters
    445
  • Poll closed .
Yep, technically he has apologized many times. Not nearly enough but a lot. But its always in a blatantly transactional manner. As a shield.
Exactly. He is apologizing just because he can get in trouble, and because that's what people do when they've done a bad thing.

Prime example is when he made a long winded apology video for explicitly calling his viewers lazy because they didn't watch his Pokémon stream.

He did apologize, but the rest of the video was deflecting and passing the blame on peepul who took it the wrong way.
 
and goddamn, the faces he makes.
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He looks like an Oblivion character does when their programming ticks their expression over from "Neutral" to "Angry" and the result is just a crinkling of the facial mesh.

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I felt like this deserved an extended cut, especially because of the banger line at the end about being positive and wanting to help people, and goddamn, the faces he makes.
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Someone has probably posted this before, but it came to mind during the rant.
 
After spending over 20 minutes in the console menu seemingly trying to get ahead of any possible trolls in chat, he played for about 5 minutes before starting another very forced Literally Me segment, even pausing the cutscene for it.
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What's funny about this one is Phil begins it by admitting that he *isn't* at all like Ichiban because he states that when he began he wasn't trying to be an inspiration. Phil just wanted to make money playing video games. Ichiban's whole thing is he wants to give former criminals a chance to become civilians, which is normally impossible because there's basically a 5-year gap where former Yakuza are unable to apply for traditional jobs/bank accounts/get homes etc. He "works" at a job placement thing, but he's not really doing it for the paycheck or anything which is why when the game starts with him being fired, he repeatedly states he doesn't care about the fact he's unemployed and not making money, it's that he feels like he let down the people he was trying to help. He also doesn't really care about the video that took him down and never tries to get revenge or debunk it and even admits that it's not entirely wrong because he does have a questionable past.

Compare to Phil, well...Phil has always been about the money, no doubt about that. But whenever Phil had to change platforms or anything, his concern was never for his viewers, it was always for himself. Whenever he misses stream time, the first thing he does is complain about the loss of income and demand his viewers make up for it. He never admits to doing anything wrong, and while Phil is generally pretty awful at everything, one thing he's incredible at is holding a grudge.

I'm not too far into the game so I can't comment on if the job loss stuff actually becomes more relevant, but the part that Phil claims is about his life is honestly little more than setup in the tutorial to upend the status quo and justify why Ichiban can drop everything and go on an adventure in Hawaii.
 
He looks like an Oblivion character does when their programming ticks their expression over from "Neutral" to "Angry" and the result is just a crinkling of the facial mesh.

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And all the dent said to get that response was calling him cringe. That spack attack was something snapping in Phil. People don't make faces like this even when they're angry unless a dam inside them has broken and their emotions are out of control. The guy he went rabid towards has been a member for years, too. He's not just some random.
Seeing as he was rewarded for this psychotic outburst by only $4 on the daystream and $6 on the latestream, this upcoming stream might be an interesting watch.
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Compare to Phil, well...Phil has always been about the money, no doubt about that. But whenever Phil had to change platforms or anything, his concern was never for his viewers, it was always for himself. Whenever he misses stream time, the first thing he does is complain about the loss of income and demand his viewers make up for it. He never admits to doing anything wrong, and while Phil is generally pretty awful at everything, one thing he's incredible at is holding a grudge.
What if we're all looking at this the wrong way. What if "he is just like me" isn't Phil saying that he is like Ichiban, but that he thinks Ichiban is like him. In other words, Phil believes he is the standard that Ichiban is trying to emulate. Phil probably just wonders why the rest of the world can't get on his level.

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To add some context to this, there is a part where a group of thugs confront Ichiban and show him a video of a vtuber talking about Ichiban mentioning he is a former Yakuza and that he works at Hello Work, Dave considers this slander even though it is 100% fact.

I don't think Dave knows what slander is.
I want to go back to this now that I have extra context from playing the game.

So the scenario is still the same as the above quote but the claim being made against Ichiban is that he is giving former Yakuza shady jobs that he then gets something out of. The example given is Sasaki getting a job with Adachi in which he steals from stores and the 3 take a cut of the profits.

Now this isn't the case but the truth is still pretty shady, Sasaki's job with Adachi involves him stealing from stores so Adachi can pitch his security company to those stores. Now while Ichiban and Adachi's heart are in the right place doesn't this sound like a scam? like a protection racket? and since Dave is emphasizing with this doesn't that mean he is inadvertently admitting that he scams people?
 
What if we're all looking at this the wrong way. What if "he is just like me" isn't Phil saying that he is like Ichiban, but that he thinks Ichiban is like him. In other words, Phil believes he is the standard that Ichiban is trying to emulate. Phil probably just wonders why the rest of the world can't get on his level.
I mean didn't he basically imply that by saying that the game was inspired by his life?
 
2024 started off bad for Phil

He's been bitching about trolls every stream so far

And seeing how Kat also talked about the trolls not letting them get to her anymore (because she grew thicker skin, quite literally) ever since she was last time on stream, it's safe to assume that Phil bitches to her about trolls everyday

41 year old man having a meltdown and resorting to primary school insults that involve piss, shit and asses because he can't just ignore a bunch of people making fun of him online
 
I felt like this deserved an extended cut, especially because of the banger line at the end about being positive and wanting to help people, and goddamn, the faces he makes.
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When he said "try me bitch!" It really felt like he was channeling Ralph for a second. They should work together.

A Ralph/Phil partnership would be very fun. Both snorting but for different reasons.
 
im glad null seems to be actually watching phil now and seems to be getting a firmer grasp on how psychotic phil actually is.
This was peak psychotic.

As others have said, his physical features seemed to change when this came on. He hasn't gotten that level of angry in years, in my opinion.

If I had to put money on why, it's isn't due to glorious Argentina or other money issues but due to the hinted parent health issues.
 
Those two things aren't the same. Probably all story focused video games expect you to identify with the protagonist, that's kinda a huge requirement for any type of immersive fiction. But DSP has sociopathic tendencies, so he has a hard time putting himself into another person's shoes. He puts the character in his shoes instead.

I don't think age is entirely relevant here; identifying with characters is part of what keeps us reading and interested in stories all our lives. In our 40's, though, we generally don't carry on how this character is "literally me." Maybe chat about it a bit with friends...damn, sorry about that, DSP.

What's fascinating is that this is only the second time relating to a character other than himself has happened to Phil. The first was the story of Job, which he completely misses the point of, naturally.

And that's why he's so emotionally invested; he's lost all sense of proportion -- I've never seen him so unhinged and truly angry in the past decade. His mind's been forced a step up on Bloom's Taxonomy for a moment, and he has no one to talk about it with other than his godfuckingawful stream chat. I'd feel sorry for him on that last account if it wasn't the situation he'd created himself.
Yeah, bad choice of words. Some level of identification and suspension of disbelief is required, but when you're reading events of your own life into the character's narrative, you've gone too far.
 
He looks like an Oblivion character does when their programming ticks their expression over from "Neutral" to "Angry" and the result is just a crinkling of the facial mesh.

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I legitimately had a similar thought. Someone is spinning the dialogue wheel, just one that changes based on the amount of money you give.
 
Yeah, bad choice of words. Some level of identification and suspension of disbelief is required, but when you're reading events of your own life into the character's narrative, you've gone too far.
DSP could read a war novel and make getting shelled or reprimanded by a senior officer equivalent to something that happened to him; this is DSP's world, we just live in it (if you let DSP tell it).
 
I want to go back to this now that I have extra context from playing the game.

So the scenario is still the same as the above quote but the claim being made against Ichiban is that he is giving former Yakuza shady jobs that he then gets something out of. The example given is Sasaki getting a job with Adachi in which he steals from stores and the 3 take a cut of the profits.

Now this isn't the case but the truth is still pretty shady, Sasaki's job with Adachi involves him stealing from stores so Adachi can pitch his security company to those stores. Now while Ichiban and Adachi's heart are in the right place doesn't this sound like a scam? like a protection racket? and since Dave is emphasizing with this doesn't that mean he is inadvertently admitting that he scams people?
I gotta say, this is why I like the detractor community, and many of my fellow autists here. I just saw it as Adachi already doing some sort of loss prevention work and he was refining their shrink management methods. I hadn’t even thought of this angle. Proof that even though we’re a bunch of mouth drooling brain dead morons that need to use a spoon to eat shit from Phil’s ass, the community (for the most part) can hypothesize and pose shit that makes sense and has evidence, instead of just talking about how the entire world is one giant detractor and he’s fighting the good fight, and it just must be true because he claims it. Therefore, debunked, idiot. Tuh huh huh.
 
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DSP could read a war novel and make getting shelled or reprimanded by a senior officer equivalent to something that happened to him; this is DSP's world, we just live in it (if you let DSP tell it).
He already lives in a warzone, if you let him tell it. Somebody walked away with his cart at a grocery store one day and he compared that to getting robbed, and tried to act like rule of law has broken down in his Seattle suburb.
 
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