Rocksteady teases Suicide Squad game

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I played a bit. I feel like anyone who enjoyed it here is a shill or a troll. It’s a very 5.5/10 game. Technically fine, but yeah like others said movement is the only sort of enjoyable part. Play Sunset Overdrive if you like the movement.

The big thing with gaming is that people in the Industry wanted to be Hollywood either because they were failures to launch or saw videogame-y shit as beneath them. The other issue is Execs seeing a trend that games like movies typically make twice what they cost to make at minimum especially with Cosmetics, Loot crates, and Live Service DLC. They kept upping budgets because then they can write shit off in taxes and hire out to a firm where they/ their spouse/ cousin/ friend is an exec.

The progressive shit is because sociopaths who hide behind thar ideology know how to manipulate agreeable people by creating false consensus and appealing to emotion.
 
My expression every time I see a cutscene from this game:

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So we might be getting a shitty off-brand version of Mr. Freeze as a DLC character too. You thought Joker was bad? Mr. Freeze isn't safe either.
The post of the bug in question.

Apparently there's a bug in the game where while a guy was fighting Brainiac the game goofed and he called their player character "Freeze" even though obviously Freeze isn't in the game. APPARENTLY there have been hints they're going to be adding Freeze to the game? I have no idea what the fuck people are talking about because I don't care but apparently it's not even going to be Arkham Mr. Freeze either it's going to be a fucking female Mr. Freeze from another universe.

I mean... what do you say about this? Well, other than
 
I don't want to sound like a redditor here, but typically when I see shit like this, I want to believe there's a genuinely smart grift going on with Sweet Baby and Blackrock and DEI going on here that's causing this collapse. Why do I say this? Because people who are legitimately stupid scare me. Especially ones who have positions of power. I'm not saying this as a "oh my god I'm so much smarter than these" thing, I'm saying this because we may have people who are genuinely just retarded running the show here and for whatever reason that seems even worse than this just being a grift.
 
Wasn't that leaked before the game released? That two of the new characters were going to be some alt dimension Joker and Freeze?

It's why I remember people asking "Why is this even an Arkham game?" if they're going to be pulling multiversal shit into it. Like I get that will, ultimately, be the trick they use to try to retcon this shit (it was an alt arkhamverse or something) but to have had multiverse shit planned out from the beginning?

It's all so tiresome and pointless.
 
So we might be getting a shitty off-brand version of Mr. Freeze as a DLC character too. You thought Joker was bad? Mr. Freeze isn't safe either.
The post of the bug in question.

Apparently there's a bug in the game where while a guy was fighting Brainiac the game goofed and he called their player character "Freeze" even though obviously Freeze isn't in the game. APPARENTLY there have been hints they're going to be adding Freeze to the game? I have no idea what the fuck people are talking about because I don't care but apparently it's not even going to be Arkham Mr. Freeze either it's going to be a fucking female Mr. Freeze from another universe.

I mean... what do you say about this? Well, other than
That's M(r)s. Freeze, chud. According to this video I didn't vet, you'll also be getting deadshot's strong independent daughter.
 
Wasn't that leaked before the game released? That two of the new characters were going to be some alt dimension Joker and Freeze?

It's why I remember people asking "Why is this even an Arkham game?" if they're going to be pulling multiversal shit into it. Like I get that will, ultimately, be the trick they use to try to retcon this shit (it was an alt arkhamverse or something) but to have had multiverse shit planned out from the beginning?

It's all so tiresome and pointless.
I must've missed it. Apologies for posting outdated information then. Most people seem to be focusing on the Joker part so I didn't really see anyone bring it up.

That's M(r)s. Freeze, chud. According to this video I didn't vet, you'll also be getting deadshot's strong independent daughter.
Which Deadshot? I assume the black one, because why wouldn't it be? After all we need a playable strong independent bold black women as a player character right?
Bet you they wanted to make her the MC instead of that whitey Quinn but knew people would catch on too quickly in that case.

I still can't believe they gave a lore reason for Deadshot being black now. Instead of it just being a retcon. But like... why though? Who the fuck would impersonate Deadshot and why?
I think it should've just been a retcon.

I mean, Waller was supposed to be a landwhale and they didn't explain why that changed either. What did she go on a diet or something?

The funny thing about the current woke phenomena is that because plandemic money, insane 4-6 year game cycle and sunk cost fallacy, every month we'll have yet another beached whale of a game added to the graveyard.
Honestly I think that's the funniest aspect of this whole mess. They delayed this game so many fucking times and it still ended up a dumpster fire. The cope is so real.
They have absolutely no excuse. You delay a game 50 fucking times and it still comes out bad? You have nobody else to blame. There is no excuse. They had all of the time in the world.
 
I still can't believe they gave a lore reason for Deadshot being black now. Instead of it just being a retcon. But like... why though? Who the fuck would impersonate Deadshot and why?
I think it should've just been a retcon.

I mean, Waller was supposed to be a landwhale and they didn't explain why that changed either. What did she go on a diet or something?
Changing dress sizes is easier than changing DNA to be fair.

I remember a stretch where Prometheus was jobbing too much, so they retconned it so the guy who was always getting his ass kicked was the OG's apprentice. It's a pretty standard trick to try and recapture some of the early magic that made the character engaging.


Though it would be funny if they did a Thunderbolts and said he had plastic surgery that turned him into a black guy to obfuscate his identity.
 
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if you don’t like these superheroes why don’t they just make something they enjoy?
I had a buddy who used to work for Crytek a while back, he talked about how game designers came up with some cool ideas for a game, presented it to upper management and they shot it down because it couldn't be boiled down to things that were popular at the time. Game development is basically like Hollywood at this point, the more money is involved the less creative control the creatives actually have.
Reading a bit about it on Wikipedia it looks like Warner passed the bucket to them back in 2017 to push this game out after it was canned from an other subsidiary, and the two co-founders of Rockstedy left back in 2022 so whatever happened behind the scenes was probably a very expensive shitshow.
 
A good bit of the hate is stemming from the bio in the game concerning the black Green Lantern and how he's "one of the good ones"
In the game who is supposed to be writing these? That is some hackney shit even if you leave out the part where he basically calls him a house nigger lol

Here's my pitch for a suicide squad game. You can have a similar premise to this but you don't have a core team. Instead you have a roster of b/c/d list villains in lockup that you can assign to set missions. You crank up the difficulty such that you're lucky to only have one death per mission. When someone dies you throw a new member into the team. The existing members level up but again you introduce enough swerve such that you could lose anyone to a bad stroke of luck. Introduce a mechanic where if a mission goes bad someone tries to run off so you're forced to pop their explosive. Also have certain hidden mission/operative combos for where the cons see an opportunity and try to escape and again you have to blow them up. This would also discourage just trying to power level a core team and only use one combination.

If you run out of people then game over. Something like Ultimate Alliance + Perma Death Rogue Like
 
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Good review. I know that Fleek is usually very jovial and jokey with his reviews but you could tell that he had nothing but contempt for the game. Loved what he said about Gotham Knights. Just because Suicide Squad is bad doesn't mean that makes Gotham Knights better in comparison. They are both shit just a different flavor of shit.
I mean, I had more fun playing Gotham Knights than this. Thank God for steam's 2 hour refund policy.
Honestly, Gotham Knights gameplay wise was... okay. Not terrible. But nothing amazing either. It was, meh I guess. It was cool sometimes.

The story was fucking atrocious though I won't defend that in the slightest. The game imo was at it's most fun when you were ignoring the story and just stopping the random street crimes. Also, they at least TRIED to make the 4 characters feel distinct. They all had unique fighting styles and abilities, ect. (Even if some were better than others. Batgirl is incredibly overpowered once you max her out. She more or less plays like a watered down Arkham Batman with all the bullshit abilities and gadgets you get. The other characters pale in comparison.)

Then you look at Suicide Squad and all of the characters are using guns... fucking why? They had the perfect chance to give the characters their own unique abilities and movesets and they just fucking didn't. Nope, they're all shooty bang bang man. Like, fucking really? Deadshot okay makes total sense for him to use guns. Of fucking course. But the others? They had so many options and interesting potential and they just didn't bother. King Shark using guns is the dumbest thing.

With Suicide Squad for my half hour play session I was either annoyed or bored to tears.

At least with Gotham Knights I had a few, if only a few moments where I did some sick shit (Totally not by accident) and thought "That was kind of cool I guess." granted I admit I am biased since I didn't play GK solo, I played it with a friend and I know that can make any game fun.
 
Then you look at Suicide Squad and all of the characters are using guns... fucking why? They had the perfect chance to give the characters their own unique abilities and movesets and they just fucking didn't. Nope, they're all shooty bang bang man. Like, fucking really? Deadshot okay makes total sense for him to use guns. Of fucking course. But the others? They had so many options and interesting potential and they just didn't bother. King Shark using guns is the dumbest thing.
Gotta get that Fortnite/Borderlands audience. And developing varied movesets and gameplay is just so hard!

Actually, in all serious, who the fuck was the target audience for this game? People who grew up with these superheroes won't want to buy one where you go around murdering them. Younger people don't care about Captain Boomerang and Harley. Is it just "people who liked the Suicide Squad movie?" I know this thing's been in development hell and all, but who is this game made for, other than suits who think that dumping money trend-chasing years after the fact equals guaranteed profit?
 
Hell, it was so bad that the disdain of this game literally united a divided community (even Gat Out Of Hell & Agents of Mayhem fans all single digits of them)
Hey! I loved GOOH as it really concentrated the wacky action of SR4, Agents of Mayhem was fun for what it was, but a disappointment for those looking for a sequel to Saints Row IV.

I have the reboot on epic, but I can't be bothered trying it.
 
I must've missed it. Apologies for posting outdated information then. Most people seem to be focusing on the Joker part so I didn't really see anyone bring it up.
It's still funny as hell that the game itself is "spoiling" shit out of purely being programmed by idiots. I feel like I heard about the Mr/Mrs Freeze stuff during all of the hubub with the early access fucking up but not that the game itself is using the wrong voice files.

I mean, Waller was supposed to be a landwhale and they didn't explain why that changed either. What did she go on a diet or something?
I'd assume they're decanonizing Assault on Arkham, now. I'm pretty sure that the "fake" Deadshot is in that film along with "his" daughter, and I think it also ended with Deadshot getting ready to snipe Waller.
 
even his rouges gallery

Going out of his way to help his rouges gallery turn their life around
It's ROGUE, God dammit!
The only media with the Suicide Squad that was good was that animated movie
Are you talking about the one where they're fighting over a get-out-of-hell-free card? I suppose it's Citizen Kane next to this slop, but that movie was pretty retarded for dragging in Vandal Savage, the man who's only known for being a cave man and being immortal, into a feature where everyone is fighting over an artifact that impacts your afterlife.

It also annoyed me that Bronze Tiger, a street level martial arts crook, was able to get one over on Thawne because "he was dying from a bullet wound and couldn't use his speed force to full potential." 0.01% of a speedster's full potential is still effectively godmode against any street level rogue. Thawne was still able to do his phasing through matter bullshit, which means that anything Bronze Tiger could have potentially thrown at Thawne would have been perceived by Thawne through bullet time, I don't care how cocky Thawne gets.

But those were typical comic nerd complaints. At least a bunch of the Suicide Squad members got killed and the cast were generally in character. I despise how SSKJA made Captain Boomerang an insufferable wigger. I thought after the Vanilla Ice movie Americans vowed "never again."
Notice how the entire game takes place en media rez. There was little lead-up to the attack and why the Justice League even became mind-controlled. This is to say that the people who boast their skills at writing didn't even seem to understand how to go about putting together a proper setting and reason for everything. The chief end of all the pieces seems to be to give four misfits the opportunity to kill three beloved heroes just...because.

These people who boast their skills as writers can't even properly build a world for their little postmodern fantasy. It's like they started with "Brainiac controls the JLA" and that was it. Now they can kill the JLA without remorse and blame it on Brainiac.

10 fucking years in development, and they didn't even get their story past its abstract.
I've noticed that is a quality of AI script-writing. Instead of coreographing a fight scene when given a prompt, AI will often say "and then they fight," and move on to the next plot beat. Each member of the JLA is taken down the same way. You can't beat them on your own, so you get a doohickey that "just works" so you can continue the bland run and gun gameplay. "And then the Suicide Squad finds an item that keeps the god-tier superhero from instantly cloud-killing them and they fight." The only one that pretends to play differently is Batman's, which is "walk from point A to point B while listening to cringe characters vomit cringe soliloquy about their cringe fears and then engage in a bland run and gun boss battle where you just evade demon Batman's attacks and shoot him until his hp bar is depleted.
I think even the Harley Stan's know that this game killed, not just Batman, but Harley too. Harley is now going to be as hated and reviled as Abby. Good job WB.
Harley has been shit for a while now. She was wildly popular when the Arkham games were coming out and WB execs have seemed to want to capture her marketability by cramming her into fucking everything, even if she doesn't fit the product. Her anti-hero arc is super fucking annoying because Harley is not someone anyone should be looking up to. At best you would pity her for being such a gullible loser.
Better yet, why the hell did they attach this to the arkhamverse at all?
Because the Arkham games made a ton of money and are remembered fondly. It's not a big mystery. Yes, it makes absolutely no sense from a literary or even fan perspective, but you have to understand that WB is run by out-of-touch elites who have so much money they couldn't tell you the last time they opened a car door. You wanna know how you got Iron Giant? Warner Bros handed Brad Bird a wad of cash and forgot he existed for 3 years. When these people take an interest in the art they commission it immediately turns to shit because they just staple things to the project that have shown a high return on investment. That's why this is a dogshit live-service game more intent on keeping the shop page online than the 1-player campaign mode.
I am convinced this hack-fraud bitch confused Kevin Conroy being professional and polite about his work with full-throated support for the garbage she put to paper.
What is it with managerial types and being retarded? In all fields of business, they tend to cause more damage to the company long term than actually fix. Most companies would be better off getting rid of these types and investing in their employees. Unlikely as fuck, but they should have the sense not to trust any retard whose "skill" is managing projects unless they have a proven track record and a sound leadership style. It's like these faggots are so desperate to make money, they will undermine their own product to make it look like they will make money rather than do what they need to do to make something that will make money hand over fist.
The professional managerial class is more akin to a priest who happens to pray for rain just before it rains than a competent leader. Their entire skillset is taking credit for things that went right and finding believable fall guys to take the blame for when things blow up in their faces.
 
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