Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

[Android raptor]

Here's a badly bred German Shepard that was dumped at a rescue by a breeder who couldn't sell him.
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His hocks and pasterns are weak and all his paws are upturned. He looks like a kangaroo. The incorrect gait must absolutely destroy his hips; they're already prone to hip dysplasia.
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If it tightens up with exercise does that mean all the adult show dogs are not getting proper exercise?

That poor dog, I imagine he needs to take pain meds. Why do people do this to gsheps

I pet some dogs at the shelter today while killing time, including a stubby bully mix that looked like he had some bulldog or something in him. He was snorty and had short legs (and a goofy giant head in proportion to his body), but still had a snout and his legs weren't horrifically deformed. He was sweet and I hope he wasn't used to breed toadline SMASHED and SLAMMED whatevers.

I'd imagine most full-blown SMASHED and SLAMMED dogs don't live long enough to make it to a shelter

 

[Fukase]

Bullycat

As a cat sperg this hurts me greatly. While breeding for hairlessness in cats is useless other than for cosmetic reasons I can give sphynxes a pass as the lack of fur doesn't effect their quality of life much AS LONG AS THEY ARE KEPT IN A WARM ENVIRONMENT (EXTREMELY IMPORTANT). Plus I find them pretty endearing. But recently there's been a trend of breeding for extreme wrinkles already which of course are breeding grounds for infection and not comfortable for the cat.

Unfortunately it seems that this "bully cat", "bambino cat" or "dwelf" trend is not just a one off thing. Forgive me if I'm retarded and this has been posted about before.

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The curled ears on some of them are from weakened cartilage, which doesn't just exist in their ears; it's all over their body. Any cats with curled or folded ears develop painful joint problems, and not all that late in life either. They're also prone to infections and mite infestations if the ears aren't cleaned regularly and something tells me these people don't do that. Likely they got these from breeding sphynxes with american curls (a modern breed that is purely cosmetic without the health and QOL of the cat put first, as cute as they are), but god only knows how they managed to SMASH and SLAM a cat to this level. Probably crossbreeding with munchkins yet again (which honestly should be banned at this point). Wouldn't be surprised. These poor little things are breed-Frankenstein abominations. It's only time before they start tossing Persian flatfaces or ridiculously over-elongated Oriental faces into the mix as well.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

and i fucking hate the fact that because it's always niggers who do this, they can get away with torturing animals for a living

 

[Fukase]

My last post about this I swear, but this really got me as well.



There is almost never any reason to dock a cat's ears. At most, vets will snip the very tip of one on strays to show they've been neutered and released. Nothing like this. They're just trying to make cats that look identical to the microbullies.

Also, weakened cartilage is bad enough in otherwise normally built breeds like folds and curls but being so SMASHED and SLAMMED means these guys will have a literal lifetime of joint pain and suffering. Legitimately MATI

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

My last post about this I swear, but this really got me as well.

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There is almost never any reason to dock a cat's ears. At most, vets will snip the very tip of one on strays to show they've been neutered and released. Nothing like this. They're just trying to make cats that look identical to the microbullies.

Also, weakened cartilage is bad enough in otherwise normally built breeds like folds and curls but being so SMASHED and SLAMMED means these guys will have a literal lifetime of joint pain and suffering. Legitimately MATI

you can SEE the fucking pain in its eyes

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Cats have only been intentionally bred for about 150 years (less than 5% of domesticated cats are purebred or have any significant percentage of a pure breed), so we are just seeing the beginning of the manmade horror show that is irresponsible breeding with cats. It's already starting; many cat breeds that look physically normal or healthy are more likely to have certain health issues. You basically will not find a purebred cat at a shelter, so if you want a certain breed it is imperative to buy from a good breeder who tests their cats for genetic health issues.

The ragdoll, prone to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (basically the heart stops pumping blood effectively, an incurable disease), bladder stones (already a big risk for cats on a kibble diet), and joint issues (due to larger size). Created in the 1960s. Many cats in shelters are advertised as Ragdolls but are actually just colorpoint longhaired "mutts."


Persians have already been discussed because of their squished faces, but even Persians with a more prominent muzzle are unhealthy, with about 2/3 of Persians suffering from some chronic health disorder. Has kinda been around since the 1600s, but the modern Persian cat seems to be genetically distinct from the Persians discussed in literature from that time period, and the modern Persian has only been around since 1950.


A purebred Siamese, note the weird body proportions. Like the Persian, the modern Siamese looks quite different from the Siamese cat described in ancient Thai manuscripts and has only been around since the 80s or so. Prone to tumors and eye problems (crossed eyes or blindness). Lots of people think any colorpoint shorthair is Siamese.


A true Russian Blue. Looks like any other grey cat, just with nice green eyes. Prone to GI and urinary issues, as well as ear infections.



My point is that we have plenty of time for humans to fuck up cats even further.

As far as "adopt don't shop," I've grown sour on shelters. It's worse with dogs, but shelters will gloss over an animal's behavioral problems or advertise them as the incorrect breed to try to get people to adopt. Worse with dogs having a potentially aggressive history, but cats can have behavioral (pissing everywhere, pica) or health issues that shelters will sugarcoat. Rescues are also getting choosier, with some who refused to adopt to me because I own a reptile and others wanting proof I owned my house and wasn't renting it. I thought they were overflowing with animals, but it's like pulling teeth to get them to respond to messages, let alone allow you to meet their cats.

I have a Maine Coon x domestic shorthair from an iffy breeder who let her TICA-registered Mane Coon around her unspayed domestic shorthair. So far the best kitten I've ever had, and I'm unsure if that's due to the half MC or just her individual personality. Way less fuss and muss than dealing with a shelter.

 

[batteredpancakes]

Persians have already been discussed because of their squished faces, but even Persians with a more prominent muzzle are unhealthy, with about 2/3 of Persians suffering from some chronic health disorder.

I watched a grooming video on a badly bred Persian a few days ago

Poor thing got out and had no ability to groom itself so managed to become one giant fur matte
It also seemed like it struggled to breathe (she had to constantly monitor its breathing) so wasn't very lively and just kinda sat there even though it was clearly unhappy.
This woman also grooms another better bred Persian called Mayo; which is night and day compared to this cat.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

I watched a grooming video on a badly bred Persian a few days ago

Poor thing got out and had no ability to groom itself so managed to become one giant fur matte
It also seemed like it struggled to breathe (she had to constantly monitor its breathing) so wasn't very lively and just kinda sat there even though it was clearly unhappy.
This woman also grooms another better bred Persian called Mayo; which is night and day compared to this cat.

yeah vanessa's channel highlights a lot of poorly bred animals and labels them as such which is nice and a good change of pace. recently she groomed a scottish fold and let people know about their cartilage issues which is surprisingly not well known

 

[The Feline Solution]

They were created by crossing Persians with munchkins

Jesus Christ man, that story starts bad and only got worse. Wasn't your mother bothered by the unspayed female pissing everywhere? My cat was an unspayed stray and the previous owner didn't tell us about it being not spayed, the first (and only, we got her spayed ASAP) time it got in heat it was a piss massacre.

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Goddamn, seeing those bullycats make me sad. Breeding hairless cats is completely outlawed in my country, it's a so-called "torture breed" as they don't have whiskers and whiskers are seen as a neccessary and vital "organ" for a cat under our laws. Thanks, Hitler. I still think hairless cats are extremely cute. Not that overbred bully variety, though.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

As far as "adopt don't shop," I've grown sour on shelters. It's worse with dogs, but shelters will gloss over an animal's behavioral problems or advertise them as the incorrect breed to try to get people to adopt. Worse with dogs having a potentially aggressive history, but cats can have behavioral (pissing everywhere, pica) or health issues that shelters will sugarcoat. Rescues are also getting choosier, with some who refused to adopt to me because I own a reptile and others wanting proof I owned my house and wasn't renting it. I thought they were overflowing with animals, but it's like pulling teeth to get them to respond to messages, let alone allow you to meet their cats.

I have a Maine Coon x domestic shorthair from an iffy breeder who let her TICA-registered Mane Coon around her unspayed domestic shorthair. So far the best kitten I've ever had, and I'm unsure if that's due to the half MC or just her individual personality. Way less fuss and muss than dealing with a shelter.

All of our rescued pitbulls died prematurely of cancer but the one accidental hybrid spaniel/beagle we got from a breeder lived to 13.

It also seemed like it struggled to breathe (she had to constantly monitor its breathing) so wasn't very lively and just kinda sat there even though it was clearly unhappy.

That is basically unheard of in cat grooming. They hate it even more than dogs.

Breeding hairless cats is completely outlawed in my country, it's a so-called "torture breed" as they don't have whiskers and whiskers are seen as a neccessary and vital "organ" for a cat under our laws.

Based, sounds like a good law. I'm not a ban everything kind of person but we have to stop breeding out things animals need for just looks. It's dysgenic. They need fur, snouts etc.

 

[Android raptor]

Hairless cats and dogs by themselves seem ok as long as you take care of their skin and make sure they don't get cold. The bullycats shit is horrific.

Not looking forward to seeing how much further reptiles can get SMASHED and SLAMMED either.

 

[fishercat]

Hairless dogs are actually completely fine. Mexican hairless dogs, or xolos, formed on their own without humans intentionally making them that way. The only downside is that the gene that causes them to be hairless also makes some of their teeth fall out, but it's not a huge deal since they can still eat just fine. Out of all "exotic" breeds, I think xolos are the absolute best in terms of their quality of life. Just give them a sweater when it's cold.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

Hairless dogs are actually completely fine. Mexican hairless dogs, or xolos, formed on their own without humans intentionally making them that way. The only downside is that the gene that causes them to be hairless also makes some of their teeth fall out, but it's not a huge deal since they can still eat just fine. Out of all "exotic" breeds, I think xolos are the absolute best in terms of their quality of life. Just give them a sweater when it's cold.

yeah landraces are great. it's also interesting to see how they naturally developed/evolved to suit certain climates. and, bonus: their lives aren't a living fucking hell!

 

[Android raptor]

Hairless dogs are actually completely fine. Mexican hairless dogs, or xolos, formed on their own without humans intentionally making them that way. The only downside is that the gene that causes them to be hairless also makes some of their teeth fall out, but it's not a huge deal since they can still eat just fine. Out of all "exotic" breeds, I think xolos are the absolute best in terms of their quality of life. Just give them a sweater when it's cold.

It makes sense dogs in Mexico would loose hair, can't imagine they'd have many problems being cold in their native country.

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

As far as "adopt don't shop," I've grown sour on shelters. It's worse with dogs, but shelters will gloss over an animal's behavioral problems or advertise them as the incorrect breed to try to get people to adopt. Worse with dogs having a potentially aggressive history, but cats can have behavioral (pissing everywhere, pica) or health issues that shelters will sugarcoat. Rescues are also getting choosier, with some who refused to adopt to me because I own a reptile and others wanting proof I owned my house and wasn't renting it. I thought they were overflowing with animals, but it's like pulling teeth to get them to respond to messages, let alone allow you to meet their cats.

Totally agree. I used to be on the "breeding is unethical" train up until a couple of years ago (I still believe buying from pet stores is unethical). What changed my mind was volunteering at a shelter as a teen. Almost every dog had a laundry list of issues and had very specific homing requirements, or had been repeatedly returned, and some of the dogs were impossible to walk or do anything with. They would sometimes take in strays from abroad and they were so miserable and abused and unable to enjoy human company I have no idea why euthanasia wasn't on the table. Occasionally you'd get a normal family dog dropped off there due to no fault of its own but that was like, no more than 10% of the dogs there at any time. They still have a bunch of pitbulls available for adoption (mostly listed as "staffy mixes" in the UK) with histories of "biting incident in the home" or similar and saying this is no big deal so long as they go to a pet free adult only home. With the cats, they didn't even share any potential behavioural issues at all. Insanity. Shelters and rescues are doing a disservice to the animals and people who want them. If I want a dog, I'm going to a reputable breeder who actually cares for their animals and can guarantee I'm getting a healthy dog with a good temperament and proper documentation. It's also been my experience that shelters will spend little to no time on proper communication so good luck if you actually want to adopt, I recently dealt with that from a guinea pig rescue, they're so disorganised.

 

[Moss Monster]

The deeply unpleasant thing you need to remember about shelter animals: Animals are like orphaned babies. There's a huge demand, so any animal worth taking will not be there long. Almost every animal there, as a result, are not salvageable. You are taking their problems into your home to become your problems. Those problems will compound themselves until the animal who can't even tell you why he's upset sinks his teeth into something to prove he's above it in the pecking order, or because it's small and moved a bit too quick for him to not play Rip the Rabbit.

The difference is severe. Little Timmy, with enough assistance, can probably tell you what is wrong, and as a result of it being fixed, grow into the kind of man that doesn't have a smack habit, and takes his trolley back. All of that without actually killing anyone in the process, too. Spot, for good or ill, is a luxury good that serves no significant working purpose, except providing companionship without killing his owner, or his owner's child. He can't do this. He will never be fixed. You don't even really know if the issue is genetic, or a result of being Tyrone's punching bag, or Pablo's prize fighter. He's a gamble, and gamblers always lose.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Totally agree. I used to be on the "breeding is unethical" train up until a couple of years ago (I still believe buying from pet stores is unethical). What changed my mind was volunteering at a shelter as a teen.

I have sympathy for homeless animals but let's be real. If an animal has repeatedly been brought back to the shelter, there's a reason. If an animal has been languishing in a shelter for 6 months or more, there's a reason. It's behavioral or health. I would never adopt an animal from the shelter that was over 1 year old. Sucks to be a dog that was ditched because their owner died but I ain't taking the risk.

My first dog was a racing greyhound that was retired at two years old because he'd broken a toe (healed when we got him). We agreed to foster him for a couple months. The greyhound rescue did not prepare us for him. He was not housebroken. He had severe, neurotic separation anxiety and needed to be crated when we went to sleep or left the house or he would absolutely destroy furniture. He had an extremely strong prey drive (greyhounds race by following a lure) and could only be walked by my father, who he couldn't pull off his feet. He didn't like women or children. We returned him within two weeks because he snapped at my younger brother's face. The rescue gave us attitude when we returned him.

Doodle mutts don't have the same crippling physical issues as a lot of fad dogs, but I feel that breeders and shelters often do not prepare their buyers adequately for the care that goes into doodle mixes (for mixes they are). They are not "hypoallergenic," they require diligent grooming at home or regular trips to the groomers, they are prone to ear infections and skin issues and hip issues, and even the best-bred doodle mixes are likely to be very high energy troublemakers (poodles are intelligent dogs originally used for hunting and retrieving and are often crossed with other hunting dogs to create doodles). Poodles are not for your average dog owner and poorly-bred doodles have a lot of those more difficult poodle traits.

They are cute though.

 

[Android raptor]

I wonder if my mom's nasty toy poodle she had when I was a kid was the product of a backyard breeder? I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I be surprises if she never attempted to train the dog properly. No way that dog would've lived as long if she was a big dog, she would've mauled someone and been euthanized probably before I was born.

At the shelter recently the worker told me most of the dogs there are only a few years old. I think it's less they have problems and more people get puppies but aren't prepared to deal with how much energy they have and attention and space they need (especially big athletic breeds like bullies and Shepards and mutts with those breeds in them).

Especially not McMansion Karens with tiny yards that ignore the dog most of the time.

 

[The Feline Solution]

There's a huge demand, so any animal worth taking will not be there long.

My experience with shelters has been that the neurotic, 40+ year old cat ladies volunteering there simply don't want to part with the animals. The demands they had for parting with the cat i was looking at were ridiculous, they basically demanded a more luxurious living situation for it than anybody i know has. One other woman immediately demanded to make an appointment to visit my apartment to see if it's cat friendly enough before continuing any form of conversation and i just looked at her like "What the fuck?" and left. Unhinged. Needless to say the three shelters in my city are filled to the brim and have been so for ages. I heard similar stories from people in my social circle who ended up going to a breeder after these utterly ridiculous requests by the shelters. I ended up getting mine from our version of Craig's List.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

I wonder if my mom's nasty toy poodle she had when I was a kid was the product of a backyard breeder? I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I be surprises if she never attempted to train the dog properly. No way that dog would've lived as long if she was a big dog, she would've mauled someone and been euthanized probably before I was born.

At the shelter recently the worker told me most of the dogs there are only a few years old. I think it's less they have problems and more people get puppies but aren't prepared to deal with how much energy they have and attention and space they need (especially big athletic breeds like bullies and Shepards and mutts with those breeds in them).

Especially not McMansion Karens with tiny yards that ignore the dog most of the time.

Toy breeds have the personality and mindset of a social predator shoved into the body of a prey animal. It's a miracle if they aren't neurotic.

My experience with shelters has been that the neurotic, 40+ year old cat ladies volunteering there simply don't want to part with the animals. The demands they had for parting with the cat i was looking at were ridiculous, they basically demanded a more luxurious living situation for it than anybody i know has. One other woman immediately demanded to make an appointment to visit my apartment to see if it's cat friendly enough before continuing any form of conversation and i just looked at her like "What the fuck?" and left. Unhinged. Needless to say the three shelters in my city are filled to the brim and have been so for ages. I heard similar stories from people in my social circle who ended up going to a breeder after these utterly ridiculous requests by the shelters. I ended up getting mine from our version of Craig's List.

I understand home visits for large-breed dogs. Absolutely retarded to expect it for cats. We have a large feral cat problem in my area and a lot of shelters here are struggling. The only one that isn't is the Humane Society, and that's because they don't give people shit when they want to adopt. But on the other extreme, they have people forming a line before opening hours to shove in there and snatch up the cats and puppies, which is another brand of insanity. It will take a crisis where these shelters have to start euthanizing a lot of their residents before they change. Got my cat from a Craigslist listing.