Warhammer 40k

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Eldar also put to rest that silly HH theory that killing of humans would stop Chaos.

Yeah, BL, Dark Eldar are a thing. Orks also like this thing called FIGHTIN'. So Khorne and Slaanesh would be just peachy.

Not really actually, DE don't actively worship slannesh and even if they did they far too small. While Orks don't feed Khorne, but Gork/Mork. That being said, there are plenty of races that worship chaos, though most of them were made extinct over the Great Crusade.

This is true of basically everyone in 40k - how many humans would care about billions of Eldar or Tau deaths to save a single human life? Most would even consider that an upside. Eldar only get extra blame for it because (in the very unusual occurrences that they're not jobbing and actually get to accomplish anything) they actually have the foresight to act on it and arrogant enough to make it rankle.

Humans would just ignore Eldar issues unless those would have future complications for them. Eldar foresight makes it look like they actively fuck over humans (which they do anyways). Doesn't help that "Eldar Diplomacy" is usually them charging in and killing everyone without even attempting to explain themselves to anyone in authority, while being extremely smug.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

While Orks don't feed Khorne, but Gork/Mork.

That's debatable, the only Ork who claims to have ever heard the voices of Gork and Mork is Ghazghkull and he's got a metal plate drilled into his brain, and Khorne actively resurrects an entire army of Orks so they can refight one of his own armies over and over. There's actually less narrative evidence for Gork and Mork being real than there is for Malal for the fuckall they do in the setting.

 

[Male Idiot]

DE don't actively worship

Unless GW did a massive retcon, you don't have to.

Every act in their relative spheres feeds them. So every war benefits Khorne, every nut Slaanesh, every decomposing trashheap Nurgle, every plottery Tzeentch.

The only way to stop it would be to go full necron and just wipe life out.

Worship just does this exponentially more.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Ghazghkull invading Commorragh would be the most satisfying thing Warhammer ever did, more satisfying than resurrecting the Emperor and letting him scratch his everything.

 

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That's debatable, the only Ork who claims to have ever heard the voices of Gork and Mork is Ghazghkull and he's got a metal plate drilled into his brain, and Khorne actively resurrects an entire army of Orks so they can refight one of his own armies over and over. There's actually less narrative evidence for Gork and Mork being real than there is for Malal for the fuckall they do in the setting.

Don't the Weirdboys speak to Gork/Mork plus have spells calling them? In general Orks seem to be highly chaos resistant, which is usually the opposite for chaos worshippers who have massive mutations. Plus they existed before Khorne was a real entity.

Unless GW did a massive retcon, you don't have to.

Every act in their relative spheres feeds them. So every war benefits Khorne, every nut Slaanesh, every decomposing trashheap Nurgle, every plottery Tzeentch.

The only way to stop it would be to go full necron and just wipe life out.

Worship just does this exponentially more.

HH implies that belief empowers the gods way more than acts associated with them, which is why the gods were so desperate to kill the Emperor who (at least we assume) attempted to make a secular human society. Heck, the God of The Greater Good is a thing because human worship.

Ghazghkull invading Commorragh would be the most satisfying thing Warhammer ever did, more satisfying than resurrecting the Emperor and letting him scratch his everything.

"Finally got that fucking shard out of my eye"

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah active worship is better, but for example if you take into account the decay that naturally occurs it is still significant. Necrons had it right, HH shittery didn't.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

There's also something very jewish to me about the whole soul-substitution legalese thing the dark eldar get up to, like how jews put their sins into a chicken and kill it at this weird festival they have every year, or the whole concept of a scapegoat. I might just be seeing semites where there aren't any though, for all I know it's a fairly common practice among many different cultures.

As a member of the tribe, you’re seeing things. All those Orthodox rituals are a sacrifice, giving something of yours up to God. The Dark Eldar are kidnapping and torturing others to hold off the destruction of their own souls.

They are a cross between the fey and vampires.

 

[WULULULULU]

Why don't Eldar just go full monke mode like the Exodites?

 

[ZMOT]

Besides, red and black is a kickass paint scheme.

also faster as ork scientists have proven.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

 

[WelperHelper99]

That's debatable, the only Ork who claims to have ever heard the voices of Gork and Mork is Ghazghkull and he's got a metal plate drilled into his brain, and Khorne actively resurrects an entire army of Orks so they can refight one of his own armies over and over. There's actually less narrative evidence for Gork and Mork being real than there is for Malal for the fuckall they do in the setting.

It's part of why I like the Orks though. Their gods are just a excuse to fight, WAGGH, and kill shit. So fun lol.

 

[Snekposter]

also faster as ork scientists have proven.

And Saim-Hann are the speediest out of all the Craftworlds. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

 

[Failed Lurker]

And Saim-Hann are the speediest out of all the Craftworlds. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

Blood Angels have go faster engines in Predators too

 

[Gremperor]

There's also something very jewish to me about the whole soul-substitution legalese thing the dark eldar get up to

Yes yes goy-thing elf-thing bad yes

Grey seer banner isn't subtle either lol

 

[Male Idiot]

They do love tunneling under New York.

 

[TVB]

They do love tunneling under New York.

 

[Exceptional individualist]

Arch could be Hitler's Top Guy and I'd be fine with his videos, his actual sin is talking like a massive faggot.

At least arch can finish a whole sentence in one take.
Major kill might as well record each syllable separately, it’s like he’s hiding a stutter or something.
The pjw of “edgy” brohammer content.

 

[BrainProlapse]

At least arch can finish a whole sentence in one take.
Major kill might as well record each syllable separately, it’s like he’s hiding a stutter or something.
The pjw of “edgy” brohammer content.

Hot take here but they're both fucking shit

 

[Dieter Laser]

Took my chaos space marine army out for a game today. We were playing 7th edition but I still had a blast.

Ended at a draw after 6 rounds.

Rundown of my army list
Daemon Prince of Khorne
20 Chaos Space Marines
7 Plague Marines
10 Khorne Berzerkers
10 Chaos chosen
10 terminators
1 havoc team
2 obliterators
2 Rhinos
Hellbrute
Helldrake
Forgefiend

Everything went fairly well except for a rhino getting nuked early and me forgetting my havoc team’s heaviest attacks for the first two turns.

But all in all for my first game in 18 years I’ll take a draw.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

The genius of the Orks in 40K is they're stupid. Think about all the other races in other science fiction settings you can remember, how many of them were stupid on purpose? Every sci fi setting wants to push really hard that all the aliens are hyperintelligent entities worthy of the reader's respect, but not Orks. The closest thing to a stupid race in Star Trek are the Klingons, but they're not stupid, they're a warrior race with a defined hierarchy similar to the Orks, but they're still an educated, intelligent species that mingle with other races in the Federation.

You can't fuck up writing an Ork the way you could a Vulcan, if an Ork does something stupid in the broader context of the situation or the setting, it's because it's an Ork and not because the writer is dumb. Being intentionally retarded is what makes Orks truly unique in sci fi in my opinion, because writing the behaviors of one is that much more flexible than writing stringently defined races like a Vulcan or Eldar, an Ork has room to make basic mistakes that a space Elf would never make and aren't held to high writing standards, because you don't have high expectations for them as characters, the only behavioral expectation of an Ork is to fight.