Game of Thrones Thread

Does anyone still gives a shit about this brand? Feels like the fatal TLJ styled blow was those last seasons and now we are stuck with irrelevant spin offs while the aging writer of the source material seems more than satisfied with never writing these again.

I brought it up to someone recent about his stagnation and he legit answered "He doesnt own us the last two books". Idk, man, after the fans of said books made you insane amounts of money, I DO think you have the obligation to give them satisfaction. Maybe he was trolling but its hard to tell these days, he even asked "How many books have you written?".


Guts's Theme moment aside...


It still doesnt invalidate my point. I cant see GRRM finishing this in his life time and his ego clearly wants him to be the next JRR Tolkien (which, yeah, good fucking luck fat fuck, you aint worth the ashes on Tolkien's pipe), right down to "unfinished" material. You really get the vibe he doesnt care, especially now he hit is big and doesnt "need" his original fans anymore. His simps will be worshipping him to the day he dies and when all the hype around him dies down, I cant see him getting looked back fondly like Tolkien was.
 
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What a boring show; Aegon and his sisters basically win every battle and conquer the entire continent in a couple years (except Dorne because Martin can't stop with his Vietnam analogies.)
Isn't the entire story "various kingdoms march out their armies to get incinerated, that happens, they bend the knee, rinse and repeat?" In a setting where shape-shifting ninjas and homing death fetuses exist?
 
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Isn't the entire story "various kingdoms march out their armies to get incinerated, that happens, they bend the knee, rinse and repeat?" In a setting where shape-shifting ninjas and homing death fetuses exist?

When adapting GRRM material, the most important element is knowing that the stupid thing actually has an ending.
 
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It's gonna be about how his sisters were awesome and one was black while Aegon was an abusive fucker who probably raped Visenya because she didn't want sex with him.

Isn't the entire story "various kingdoms march out their armies to get incinerated, that happens, they bend the knee, rinse and repeat?" In a setting where shape-shifting ninjas and homing death fetuses exist?
There were some political shenanigans because if Aegon just arrived and burned everything down, he'd be a tyrant. At least this isn't gonna have D&D being part of it or it would be just threesomes of the Targaryen siblings... which I personally wouldn't mind, but not made by anyone related to HBO.
 
It's gonna be about how his sisters were awesome and one was black while Aegon was an abusive fucker who probably raped Visenya because she didn't want sex with him.
The casting for the three leads will be more interesting than the actual show.
Isn't the entire story "various kingdoms march out their armies to get incinerated, that happens, they bend the knee, rinse and repeat?"
Pretty much. But some of them behave in extraordinarily retarded ways like Harren the Black who laughs at Aegon and Balerion and gets his entire castle and its occupants cooked alive in one of the dumbest political and military moves in the entire franchise. Then you have Dorne where they not only fight off the invaders but begin killing dragons and no one else thinks to rebel against the Targs and kill all of the dragons to save their homelands from these invaders. Dorne actually fights off the Targs by itself and the other six kingdoms don't think to team up and destroy the dragons.

But even dumber is that GRRM couldn't think of a good reason why Aegon would surrender to Dorne when he has giant dragons.....so he had the ruler of Dorne send Aegon a letter which is never revealed to the readers. And this mystery letter results in a truce between the Targs and Dorne that lasts until the dragons are extinct and then a Targ ruler tries to conquer Dorne with a conventional army and fails in the long run.
In a setting where shape-shifting ninjas and homing death fetuses exist?
And poisoning and anti-dragon weapons. But nothing is more powerful in the GRRM universe than good old fashioned plot armor. When someone wears plot armor in ASOIAF world the antagonists usually don't even bother trying to kill them anymore. Like Cersei not leaving guards around Tyrion at all times or just killing him in his cell because she's so paranoid about the prophecy. She just leaves Tyrion unguarded when his wife already escaped with help without being caught.
 
I don't think males in tv are allowed to look like this. It's either twink or ridiculously buff and never wearing a shirt.

Pretty much. But some of them behave in extraordinarily retarded ways like Harren the Black who laughs at Aegon and Balerion and gets his entire castle and its occupants cooked alive in one of the dumbest political and military moves in the entire franchise. Then you have Dorne where they not only fight off the invaders but begin killing dragons and no one else thinks to rebel against the Targs and kill all of the dragons to save their homelands from these invaders. Dorne actually fights off the Targs by itself and the other six kingdoms don't think to team up and destroy the dragons.

But even dumber is that GRRM couldn't think of a good reason why Aegon would surrender to Dorne when he has giant dragons.....so he had the ruler of Dorne send Aegon a letter which is never revealed to the readers. And this mystery letter results in a truce between the Targs and Dorne that lasts until the dragons are extinct and then a Targ ruler tries to conquer Dorne with a conventional army and fails in the long run.
How can you even write a plot for this without the protagonists looking like massive villains? Rhetorical, they just make everyone they're against racist and sexist, which justifies the massive death toll. Fighting the dragons is also retarded unless Dorne has some super poison that they won't share with anyone else, though it will probably be ridiculously capable female archers.

How smart are dragons anyway? Can you just point at a map and they'll understand where they need to go, or do you need to be in their vicinity, which means that killing the riders essentially decapitates the whole force.
 
How can you even write a plot for this without the protagonists looking like massive villains?
Its pretty easy: you load Aegon up with a ton of positive traits. Make him smart, honorable, honest, a straight shooter, loyal to those around him, etc., etc. Harrenhall can be the lowest day of his life, a situation he was forced into by the obstinance of his enemies and/or underhanded plays by people loyal to him.

Knowing GRRM, it will probably be all edgelord bullshit. But there have been plenty of books and movies capable of making a marauding tyrant a sympathetic protagonist.
 
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Its pretty easy: you load Aegon up with a ton of positive traits. Make him smart, honorable, honest, a straight shooter, loyal to those around him, etc., etc. Harrenhall can be the lowest day of his life, a situation he was forced into by the obstinance of his enemies and/or underhanded plays by people loyal to him.

Knowing GRRM, it will probably be all edgelord bullshit. But there have been plenty of books and movies capable of making a marauding tyrant a sympathetic protagonist.
he'd be portrayed as a rapist
but it's okay because he's hot
i mean, they already did it with drogo
 
How smart are dragons anyway? Can you just point at a map and they'll understand where they need to go, or do you need to be in their vicinity, which means that killing the riders essentially decapitates the whole force.
Dragons bond with their riders. Targaryens are given eggs since they're babies for them to bond with them once they hatch.

Still, they need the rider to be in control. In HotD, Aemond wants someone dead, and he's thinking that when he's riding his dragon... then the person gets eaten and he acts like "whyyy????!!" I mean, the dragon felt the sentiment right, he didn't know Aemond was having hyperbolic thoughts.

Its pretty easy: you load Aegon up with a ton of positive traits. Make him smart, honorable, honest, a straight shooter, loyal to those around him, etc., etc. Harrenhall can be the lowest day of his life, a situation he was forced into by the obstinance of his enemies and/or underhanded plays by people loyal to him.
Aegon has a lot of positive traits and I think people generally considered him a good person until the moment he decided he wanted to be King and some disagreed. I don't think he could have achieved the conquest had he been some crazy cruel maniac like, say, Ramsay Bolton.
 
Dragons bond with their riders. Targaryens are given eggs since they're babies for them to bond with them once they hatch.
See, this is why "conquering a continent the size of South America with three (3) dragons" is retarded. Even if the dragons are literally invincible, they can only be in three places at once- and their riders are as squishy as any normal human. Even if they cam win every battle they fight, they'd find themselves on a proverbial island surrounded by dispersed forces waiting for a shot at exhausted, starving riders.

It sounds like there should have been a proper Valeryan invasion- hundreds of dragons, thousands of riders- which gradually got whittled down to a single ruling family through several cycles of civil war and regicide.
 
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Visenya never gave Aegon an heir(at least not naturally)-maybe make her a lesbian or unwilling. Rhaenys can be a slut.

There's a fan theory Aegon was infertile-run with that and you get to emasculate the male protagonist and have it be really canon compliant.

Add artificial drama with Orys Baratheon and Aegon's vassals-pump loads of CGI into set piece battles that have as we know-pre determined outcomes.

Its really really sparse material for a TV show-there are like 10 characters of consequence. Aegon and his sister wives, Orys, Argella Durrandon, the Stark king and his brother, Loren Lannister, whoever the Gardener king was, lord Tyrell, also Harren and the Martells? So maybe 15 or so?

Maegor and Aenys actually have a bit of intrigue and drama with stronk women like Visenya, Tyanna of Pentos and what not.
 
It's gonna be about how his sisters were awesome and one was black while Aegon was an abusive fucker who probably raped Visenya because she didn't want sex with him.


There were some political shenanigans because if Aegon just arrived and burned everything down, he'd be a tyrant. At least this isn't gonna have D&D being part of it or it would be just threesomes of the Targaryen siblings... which I personally wouldn't mind, but not made by anyone related to HBO.
They'll probably run with the angle/retcon established in House of Dragons that the Targs know the White Walkers/Others/Night King are coming and they have to unite the seven kingdoms to fight them, whether they want to or not and maybe toss in some flashbacks to the doom of valaria for extra padding.
 
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Dragons bond with their riders. Targaryens are given eggs since they're babies for them to bond with them once they hatch.
Do they let others ride their dragons or is it literally a three guy army that will somehow never gets betrayed and poisoned in a series all about betrayals?
They'll probably run with the angle/retcon established in House of Dragons that the Targs know the White Walkers/Others/Night King are coming and they have to unite the seven kingdoms to fight them, whether they want to or not and maybe toss in some flashbacks to the doom of valaria for extra padding.
It says a lot that I forgot about the White Walkers. Having them used as an excuse is probably the simplest solution since it is vaguely technically correct.
 
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