The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

[Trad Cunt]

If you understood your own theology you hinge everything on, you wouldn't need people on the Internet to explain it to you. Sad.

I'm astounded by the genuine retardation. I don't need you to explain it to me, I know exactly what I means. I want to hear your protestant cope.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

The primacy of the pope is Biblical.

I don't care. Plus I'm not Catholic. I am not Protestant. I don't give a rats anus about the fucking Pope other than having a very strong desire to see Francis hanging from a tree for embracing God Killing.

You conceded to having no medical exception for abortion when the mother's life is at risk, which no sane legal or ethical system agrees to, even in pro-life states and countries.

No I didn't. I didn't even speak on the topic.

You conceded that it is morally permissible to bring children into the world merely to die at the hands of IVF eugenicists.

I said it a million times, I don't give a rats anus about IVF. I said for consistency's sake, ban it. I'm not dying on that hill. I don't have a strong opinion on the topic.

Your rhetoric is absolutely atrocious. Do you think you're convincing anyone by telling someone in a pro-life debate, from a Christian perspective, that you don't think they're deserving of life.

Yes. I am convincing to anyone with enough of a brain to see the subject in question is a lunatic. In fact we should all be happy she believes so strongly in abortion so she endlessly murders her own offspring with her Canaanite sponsored vacuum.

If you have an argument for this, I'd love to hear it.

Sure, if my child were about be hit by a bus, I would save them, even if it meant I die in the process. There are no circumstances where I wouldn't do this. I don't care if I'm leaving behind a wife or a wife and 20 other children, I would sacrifice my life for my child's in a heart beat. Hell, I'd do it even if there's no guarantee I'd save them for certain. Why? Because I love my children.

So the answer to your question is, I love my children. Carve out my spine and give it to them if you have to.

 

[CashMoney!]

I'm astounded by the genuine retardation. I don't need you to explain it to me, I know exactly what I means. I want to hear your protestant cope.

If you know what it means and you've assumed I'm protestant, then why bother? This is Shapiro nuttery. Make explicit points with your passages you're bringing up instead of trying to play semantics games through your own lens of "children are an object with assignable worth based on the oppression of their mother". If you think you can explain Bible passages better than me, the assumed protestant, then just do it instead of putting the onus on someone else to give you material to respond to that makes you feel clever. This isn't Reddit. Take some initiative... Or do you not know how to set up passages for analysis?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I want to hear your protestant cope.

Then I'll tell you the same thing I tell the "Source?" Fags. This is the internet. Nobody is reading your sources. I am not doing a homework assignment for an argument with some retard on the Internet and neither should you. Give me your points that can stand on their own merits, or just admit you're wrong.

But you know what? What you're talking about Bible Verses! So there's wonderful little thing called copy and paste....

You're Fresh Meat and it shows.

 

[Trad Cunt]

Then I'll tell you the same thing I tell the "Source?" Fags. This is the internet. Nobody is reading your sources. I am not doing a homework assignment for an argument with some retard on the Internet and neither should you. Give me your points that can stand on their own merits, or just admit you're wrong.

It's not my fault you're too retarded to actually engage on a deeper level than "muh bloodline."

But you know what? What you're talking about Bible Verses! So there's wonderful little thing called copy and paste....

So you don't have a Bible with you to read the Word of God? Lol, keep telling on yourself.

You're Fresh Meat and it shows.

Lol I knew you'd cry and default to the fresh meat cope as if this is the only account I've ever had on this site. Sorry my opsec is better than yours. Cope and seethe, retard.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

So you don't have a Bible with you to read the Word of God? Lol, keep telling on yourself.

No. I'm not a weirdo

 

[Trad Cunt]

No. I'm not a weirdo

Lol, I rest my case. In the future you might want to actually be familiar with the book you’re asking women to die over in an abortion debate.

Extremely common moid L.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

you’re asking women to die over in an abortion debate.

Show me where in the Bible it says abortion is okay.

 

[KiwiFarmer9993!]

Show me where in the Bible it says abortion is okay.

One could argue, that if the mother is going to die unless she aborts.....it's considered self denfence. As far as I know, you can kill in self defence if you are about to die and it be okay in the bible.

 

[Trad Cunt]

Show me where in the Bible it says abortion is okay.

I already addressed the Principle of Double Effect on this thread.

 

[Chandelier]

Especially yes. Men should be able to claim sole custody in lieu of a woman having an abortion.

you're not getting it, lol, especially in the court of public opinion. The more men like you openly admit it's not about life or 'protecting mothers' - as star Lila Rose puts it - the more you'll be viewed as a neo Eric Rudolph. The fact your movement had to get someone like Lila Rose to put a feminist spin on it by promoting the health of mothers and families says a lot. The more men say they're happy to see their wives die on the operating table because of a pregnancy gone wrong would turn off even the most ardent pro-life woman. Hell, some of them are already noticing what you scrotes say, and I say good for them. The more of you are openly honest about it, the better. The faster you'll lose.

Let's make one thing clear. I do not like the Catholic Church. I do not believe in the Catholic Church. I do not believe majority of Christian Churches are true Christians. I do not like the Vatican and the Pope is a fucking nigger. So I do not agree with what some ancient Catholic priests did thousands of years ago.

You've told another user - who carefully explained religious doctrine - you don't give a single fuck about the facts, or even the topic of metaphysics or morality, so you're just here to have a verbal bout of diarrhea because you despise women that much.

Yes. Why would I not? It's my kid...You're a lunatic.

You openly said you're fine with letting your wife die to get that kid, and admitted here:

Yes and it's because I think you're a dumbass and not worthy of life.

that you're also fine openly wishing death on someone who doesn't share the same views as you. Very pro life. I should start a tally based on how many pro life men who care so deeply about babies will candidly tell a woman to die because she *gasps* has a different view on reproductive rights than the scrote who acts tough on a forum. Do you tell other women in real life this, or is it spared for randos online?

Oh, to add: the funniest thing about this is that the guy lecturing women on how abortion is murder has a porn stash. Did you must NNN?

Men are. They're abandoning Western women like you in droves. But you don't like that either, do you?

Yes, and they're also abandoning their Hapa kids in those countries they engage in sex tourism in. Broken branch, ancestor cry. Hilarious seeing pro-life/redpill men talk about how evil women are while turning to poor Filipina women and Southeast Asian women because they think they are more 'traditional'. Spare me that tism jism.

You said die to save our child. That is not to prove a point. That is the crux of a mothers love. I would happily die for my children because I love them. That is not to prove a point. I'm sorry your parents didn't love you enough for you to share that sentiment for your own children.

Nah, you said you were fine with letting her die - you never mentioned or discussed what your wife would really want. You just said what you wanted.

I've asked her and she's said happily die for her children in a heartbeat. She also says you're a crazy lunatic.

Oh, did she also read what you said about candidly saying you'd be fine with her dying because of a complicated pregnancy? If so, what a gal. I love having a husband tell me he prioritizes his would-be child over his wife, and the mother of his other children. Your 'wife' can call me a lunatic all she wants - God forbid if it ever happens to her. But then you'll still be here gloating about how her preeclampsia or ruptured membrane was fine because hey, least you got that vaunted baby. Who won't have a mother. Who will have a father who willingly let the mother die in the hospital because of some morbid act of heroism.

You know, I think it's really quite an amazing feat you've accomplished here. You've managed to make Android Raptor look completely fucking sane. At least she puts all of her points under the lens of her own view of the world. For, you it's like you're incapable incapable of thinking the world doesn't revolve around you. Nobody has any agency or decision making power according to you and I can somehow control my wife into being a human incubator against her will.

I also think it's amazing how men, who claim to be the rational sex, can openly admit to not giving a shit about the facts and will refuse to read sources, while calling women who disagree with them vile harpies who are somehow both incapable of responsibility, while being wholly expected to gestate, feed, and take care of their scrote's child.

"Give me points that stand on their own merit' you say, while making a solely moralistic argument based on a extremely warped religious view that isn't based on any religion. You openly stated you are fine with women dying due to a complicated pregnancy because abortion is evil; you stated they should go to jail for 20 years or more for manslaughter (nice catch, there), and said you'd be happy seeing your wife die to give you your kid. Likely because there wouldn't be a custody battle and you wouldn't need to see a judge.

"I can somehow control my wife into being a human incubator" - You did say you were fine watching her die, should a theoretical pregnancy become complicated. Not even the CLI or Matt fucking Walsh says that. They still have a degree of optics, and lo and behold, openly telling women they should be jailed (or at the worst, killed in turn) isn't a winning political issue anywhere. Shocker that Western women refuse to marry and the birth rates are crashing.

Men impregnate women. So anything that goes wrong in a pregnancy, you are 50% at fault for. It's astounding how men just refuse to take responsibility for the creation of an embryo unless it personally suits them.

Telling random women that they should die over their views on abortion is typical. Very normal scrote thoughts.

Redditor femoids seething that normal women would give their life for their children. Any woman who's lost a baby to stillbirth or shortly after birth will tell you that they wish they could have traded places so their child had a chance at life.

You don't speak for all women. We are not talking about stillbirth here. I am explicitly discussing abortion in the case of saving a woman's life due to a dangerous pregnancy. Let's see Amanda Zurawski and what she went through, and ask her if she was willing to die for a doomed pregnancy.

Sure, if my child were about be hit by a bus, I would save them, even if it meant I die in the process. There are no circumstances where I wouldn't do this. I don't care if I'm leaving behind a wife or a wife and 20 other children, I would sacrifice my life for my child's in a heart beat.

Right. But you'd still expect your wife to go first, because you answered in the affirmative to my question over whether you'd let your wife die over a complicated pregnancy. She has to go first - you have to go when they're grown. Funny how that works.

Pregnancy is not like cooking a turkey. It is not health neutral. You're the same men who view Andrea Yates as a soulless monster even when her husband refused to stop impregnating her. The same ones who act confused at gestational diabetes and post-partum psychosis.

Then I'll tell you the same thing I tell the "Source?" Fags. This is the internet. Nobody is reading your sources. I am not doing a homework assignment for an argument with some retard on the Internet and neither should you. Give me your points that can stand on their own merits, or just admit you're wrong.

"Abortion is murder because I say so"
"I don't need to explain it using science or religion, because my merits are better than yours"

Funny story. You say abortion is murder, right? Well this hubby gave his wife abortion while she was late in her pregnancy. The child was born semi-retarded, because the drug doesn't work in later trimesters. And he's an attorney to boot. Want to know how long this lad got for attempted murder?

180 days in jail, 10 years of probation. For a crime you should view as attempted murder, in a state that proudly declares itself pro life. You gonna treat him like you treat those other women taking those drugs or nah?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

The more men say they're happy to see their wives die on the operating table because of a pregnancy gone wrong would turn off even the most ardent pro-life woman

Nobody is happy about that, you lunatic. For the record, those women who choose their own lives over their children in those scenarios, don't love their own children.

the court of public opinion.

I don't care about the court of public opinions.

You've told another user - who carefully explained religious doctrine - you don't give a single fuck about the facts, or even the topic of metaphysics or morality

I don't care about what the church says or thinks.

You openly said you're fine with letting your wife die to get that kid

That was in response to you saying I wouldn't raise my own kid. So I pose the question again, why would I let my wife die for our child and then not raise it? Are you stupid?

openly wishing death on someone who doesn't share the same views as you

Yes, I'm an ass hole. I said this already.

Oh, to add: the funniest thing about this is that the guy lecturing women on how abortion is murder has a porn stash. Did you must NNN?

Oh? I thought they were just a clump of cells.

Nah, you said you were fine with letting her die - you never mentioned or discussed what your wife would really want. You just said what you wanted.

My wife's wants for our children are the same as mine. They are one in the same and we want our children to live their lives by any means necessary. If they need a shirt they can have ours. If they need a lung they can have ours. If they need a kidney, they can have ours. If they need our soul, take mine and give it to them.

We love our children. Sorry your parents clearly didn't love you.

Oh, did she also read what you said about candidly saying you'd be fine with her dying because of a complicated pregnancy? If so, what a gal. I love having a husband tell me he prioritizes his would-be child over his wife, and the mother of his other children. Your 'wife' can call me a lunatic all she wants - God forbid if it ever happens to her. But then you'll still be here gloating about how her preeclampsia or ruptured membrane was fine because hey, least you got that vaunted baby. Who won't have a mother. Who will have a father who willingly let the mother die in the hospital because of some morbid act of heroism

This is why you are neither a wife nor a mother. No sane man would read what you just said and marry you. It's clear you care more about yourself than your children. This is why I called you a lunatic. No sane woman would ever say this. I have 0 doubt in my mind that any woman on KiwiFarms that has children would NEVER spew this deranged narcissism

Why? Because those are women who love their children.

while making a solely moralistic argument based on a extremely warped religious view that isn't based on any religion.

You're right. It's not based on any religion. They're my own morals and values.

You gonna treat him like you treat those other women taking those drugs or nah?

I said the doctors should be tried for murder. That implies men and women be punished in kind. So yes. It applies to him too. He should've gotten all 10-20 years in prison.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I do not believe majority of Christian Churches are true Christians.

the Pope is a fucking nigger.

No, he's a spic.

Men are. They're abandoning Western women like you in droves.

They're free to become race traitors n shit.

I've asked her and she's said happily die for her children in a heartbeat. She also says you're a crazy lunatic.

Is she in the room with us right now?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Is she in the room with us right now?

Sorry you lack the credits to contact this ghost.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Sorry you lack the credits to contact this ghost.

I'm not Womb Wizard enough.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I'm not Womb Wizard enough.

You failed young Padawan, you must go back to November and attempt NNN again. If you achieve this you can become a true Womb Wizard and be a true master of the vaginal arts. As the Honored Beaver Whisperer, I believe in you.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

you must go back to November and attempt NNN again

I can NNN 3 months straight with no breaks.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I can NNN 3 months straight with no breaks.

Your poor husband must think he's invading a spider's nest from all those cobwebs after 3 months of NNN.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Your poor husband must think he's invading a spider's nest from all those cobwebs after 3 months of NNN.

Okay coomer. If your wife is real, I bet she's not even the same race as you. Shamefur dispray.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Okay coomer. If your wife is real, I bet she's not even the same race as you. Shamefur dispray.

Fuck. You caught me, I am a dirty racemixer-chan. Uwu