Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Russians capturing foreign "mercenaries". It's an open secret that the complex NATO weapons systems are being operated by recently demobilized NATO personnel. It's debatable whether or not mercenaries have any protection under the Geneva convention and could be shot on the spot when captured. The American/ Canadian officer begging for his life is a fucking disgrace.
I missed that part. As to the Geheva convention, if they're fighting in Ukrainian uniforms, they should be given the same status as Ukrainian regulars, whatever that is.

As far as the begging goes... well, theyre blinded mercenaries. Its easy to criticize from a distance, but if it was me squatting on thay floor, listening to those pistols being cocked, I'd be begging too. This isn't ideological for Americans who have any idea what the score is- its a paycheck, so there's no reason NOT to do whatever it takes to live long enough to collect. If I have to bite the pillow for Valta, it still beats being cooling meat on some concrete floor. No Patrick Henrys when fighting a retarded border war that your actual country isn't technically involved in.
I was gonna make a joke about how they should make a movie about it, the sad thing is they probably will
No, once this is over they'll forget it ever happened. The Ukrainians can't be used to shill communism like the Spanish Republicans, and they can't be useful to tear down White America like Vietnam. There's no version of events that doesn't reflect badly on Globohomo, so it will simply vanish.
 
No, once this is over they'll forget it ever happened. The Ukrainians can't be used to shill communism like the Spanish Republicans, and they can't be useful to tear down White America like Vietnam. There's no version of events that doesn't reflect badly on Globohomo, so it will simply vanish.
So after its over, this turns into either:
"WEST UKRAIN IS OUR GREATEST ALLY"
or
Brave mujahideen fighters of Ukranistan
A sequel either way
 
The USA and UK tell you "Hey, go provoke Russia into war. We got your backs. Much money and weapons as you need."
the last century at minimum him and his genetic line were taught that the USA is full of scorpions who pride themselves on tricking others, literally (((people))) who pride themselves on being the biggest demons. Yet this guy still goes "sure, i trust you people" especially when they refused the last dozen agreements they made with his country.
American Football has Wonderlic
there's also an employer wonderlic as well, and most of those assessments you take for employers are allowed because they call them "personality tests" instead of intelligence tests. The other problem is those are oddly expensive so unless you're already down to a handful of candidates it won't matter. plus the rise of "good test takers" or autists means intelligence tests won't really screen as well as personality tests. employers and employees alike would prefer a stupid nigger who barely does his job over one who is Dr.House esque.
So no, there wasn't a significant Hispanic population in 1924.
the gold rush and other big rushes happening really caused the spic population to surge in the south west. the Zoot Suit Riots even being a big enough deal to deserve a name prove there was a pretty heavy spic population by that point. If there wasn't a large spic population why would cali even feel the need to start redlining that far back.

by the US own populations records by 1924 the Mexican population in the US was roughly on par with the jewish population in the US or Italian population. Of course this is where you say that the US didn't notoriously have a fuck load of those in the 1920s.
 
to check out this guy's twitter and this video is the first post I see:
That man is a gamer
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The father of the traitorous pilot Kuzminov feels more sorry for the Mi-8 crew who died due to the defection, than for his son

 
I missed that part. As to the Geheva convention, if they're fighting in Ukrainian uniforms, they should be given the same status as Ukrainian regulars, whatever that is.
They are merc's. They have no rights and no protections.
Anyway, all that and including Geneva Convention does not matter.

No one in the west will ever admit that these people even exist. No one in the west will mention them.
No one will ask about their well-being. No one will ask for them to be returned.
No one will request they be part of some POW exchange.
They simply do not exist and no one will ever pretend otherwise.

They are on their own and no one will come for them.
Russia will send them to a gulag or prison somewhere and they will disappear and never be heard about ever again.
 
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The father of the traitorous pilot Kuzminov feels more sorry for the Mi-8 crew who died due to the defection, than for his son

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Mad respect. Not easy to stand up and say: “Yup, my son is a traitor”.

I feel terrible for him. The man lost a son in more than one sense, since his son turned out to be a worthless traitor.

Sometimes pieces of shit are just born, regardless of how you raise them.

Hope he has some other kids that can bring some light and honor to his name.

There are ton of Videos of Russians Killing Mercenary and Nationalist Battalion Prisoners. Neither side really wants to acknowledge this type of thing. Russia doesn't want to acknowledge that her soldiers sometimes do these things and the other side doesn't want to acknowledge that they people exist.

There are a bunch of videos of Russians being forced to run through minefields etc by nationalist battalions, and I fully expect the Russians to deal with people from those battalions in a proper manner. That’s to be expected.

(Just like they dealt with the Wagner guy who switched side and got the hammer.)

But overall Russia seems to treat prisoners humanely and according to all the conventions.

Mercs are a special case. While they technically don’t have any protections under the Geneva convention, I’d assume that many of them get thoroughly interrogated instead of executed, since they in particular have no reason to keep mum.

(In the video, the soldiers also say how “special service” with deal with the mercs. I’d assume for a thorough debriefing.)
 
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They are merc's. They have no rights and no protections.
Anyway, all that and including Geneva Convention does not matter.

No one in the west will ever admit that these people even exist. No one in the west will mention them.
I dunno about that. Might get articles and 15 second news segments about how such and such officers and SOCOM types died in unfortunate freak accidents and/or aircraft crashes. The fact these fatal mishaps seem to happen not long after an otherwise inconspicuous building in Kiev or Lvov gets Kalbir'd by Russia is surely just a total coincidence.
 
I missed that part. As to the Geheva convention, if they're fighting in Ukrainian uniforms, they should be given the same status as Ukrainian regulars, whatever that is.
Unlawful combatants, or to be more precise, unprivileged combatants are not given protected status under the Geneva conventions, especially if they are not wearing their own county's uniform. Simply putting on a Ukrainian uniform doesn't pass muster if you're an American/Canadian/German/Pole engaging in hostilities against the RuAF.
The father of the traitorous pilot Kuzminov feels more sorry for the Mi-8 crew who died due to the defection, than for his son
Much respect. Painful to see that despite your best efforts your child became traitorous scum.
They are on their own and no one will come for them.
Absolutely correct.
Might get articles and 15 second news segments
At best, if at all. Lots of accidents happening lately, for sure.
 
Real Quick I'll do an update on the lines since I missed it today

Big news is that Things west of Avdeevka have not slowed down. You've seen me discuss this before and everything I said then is still true. Russians storming Tonenke.
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Other really notable thing is that the Russians seem to have been pushed back from Robotyne. Don't know why this keeps happening. Maybe the mappers are wrong, maybe the Ukrainians are burning stupid amounts of reserves to accomplish this. Maybe the Russians are pushing forward and retreating really easily to bait Ukraine into sending more and more reserves. I just have no idea what is going on here. We've all seen the video of the Russian Vehicles travelling through here and meeting little resistance. This would probably give you plenty of time to set up somewhat decent defenses that mean you couldn't be pushed back. But this is not the case. To address any Strelkov Enjoyers or Pro-Ukrainian people, I'll say this is the only place on the front where this is happening. Despite heavy attacks in Ivanskoe the Russians established a foothold just fine with heavy fighting but it wasn't a giant hassle like this.
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West of Donetsk the Russians advanced towards Krasnohorivka from the South.
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It is not just Pro-Russia people that think things are starting to go really badly for Ukraine and that things will be very bad soon. Well bad for Ukraine anyway.
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Almost forgot. The Ukrainians are suggesting Russia is pulling troops from Crimea. There does seem to be some truth to this since I have seen videos of armored vehicles being put on trains and leaving here. My other possibly wrong thought is that Russia is trying to Reduce the logistic Footprint of Crimea incase Ukraine tries anything.
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Mercs are a special case. While they technically don’t have any protections under the Geneva convention, I’d assume that many of them get thoroughly interrogated instead of executed, since they in particular have no reason to keep mum.
I'll be honest of the Videos I've seen Mercs usually get killed pretty quickly and pretty violently. You have to remember Russians basically see them the same as the Azov Type guys. This is also not far from the truth considering a lot of these people are from places like Poland/Georgia and aren't too far removed from the Nationalist types. The next group you have are war tourists from places like the US/Britain who are there because this a chance to fight some war. The last group you have is the normal Mercenaries from places like Columbia.

A lot of Russian Soldiers don't like to hand over Merc prisoners because the Russian government will treat them like any other prisoner and exchange them. This was an incredibly stupid decision even on a real-politik sense because it meant you lost the ability to tell your soldiers to capture people and have them actually do it. Russia could torture these people and get intel out of them but since a lot of these captured mercs don't speak Russian and the Russian Soldiers don't want them to get traded they just execute them.
It feels like half the problems with Britain end up involving the railways in some way or another, I guess when you're the first people building the things you're gonna make a bunch of dumb mistakes that all the other people get to learn from.
The funny thing is Belgium built the first steam Locomotive railroad. As far as things like minecarts and those really old rails Bohemia has those first. Does it really matter? No but it bothered me.
 
Other really notable thing is that the Russians seem to have been pushed back from Robotyne. Don't know why this keeps happening. Maybe the mappers are wrong, maybe the Ukrainians are burning stupid amounts of reserves to accomplish this. Maybe the Russians are pushing forward and retreating really easily to bait Ukraine into sending more and more reserves. I just have no idea what is going on here. We've all seen the video of the Russian Vehicles travelling through here and meeting little resistance. This would probably give you plenty of time to set up somewhat decent defenses that mean you couldn't be pushed back. But this is not the case. To address any Strelkov Enjoyers or Pro-Ukrainian people, I'll say this is the only place on the front where this is happening. Despite heavy attacks in Ivanskoe the Russians established a foothold just fine with heavy fighting but it wasn't a giant hassle like this
I'm wondering if Russia noticed that Ukraine will sacrifice many of their soldiers to make these public wins and realized that Robotyme would be a perfect out of the way place to convince Ukraine that it has a chance so it pulls forces away from other fronts?
 
Interesting interview with an American merc:

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Only thing I gotta say is: WTF DID YOU MARRY SOME UKRAINIAN SKANK?

My guy, if you want to get some ass, just start waving some dollars at a cafe in Kiev, but FFS: That’s not wife material!

Any woman who’ll marry you to leave her shithole hohol country, will dump you the second she finds an upgrade.

Christ, they’re really not sending their best.

War is over for these Ukrops. Some of the prisoners from Avdeyevka.

Time to go sweep streets in Vladivostok or whatever they have them do.

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Note how old many of these lads are. Not one in his 20ies, many are in their 40ies or 50ies.
 
I can understand if Ruskies want to murder mercs, but really if you got the logistics, you should interrogate them at least.

Send them off to the salt mines after it, or trade them later if you want to, but sometimes you got to be pragmatic.

I am assuming the Russian army can handle captured enemies fine at this point and aren't so understaffed they can't guard them.
 
I'm wondering if Russia noticed that Ukraine will sacrifice many of their soldiers to make these public wins and realized that Robotyme would be a perfect out of the way place to convince Ukraine that it has a chance so it pulls forces away from other fronts?
It's been completely destroyed with no cover left apart from the remains of the village school, the rest of the buildings are literal dust. There's no difference between the town and the local farms in terms of military usefulness. No one's using the place as a staging area or defensive position. The surrounding trenches and concrete fortifications have already been re-taken, there's no point stationing troops in the village itself.

I can understand if Ruskies want to murder mercs, but really if you got the logistics, you should interrogate them at least.

Send them off to the salt mines after it, or trade them later if you want to, but sometimes you got to be pragmatic.

I am assuming the Russian army can handle captured enemies fine at this point and aren't so understaffed they can't guard them.
The Russians have been keeping the foreign volunteers fighting in the AFU as PoWs, likely because Russia has their own foreigners in the ranks and trading them makes sense. But the NATO guys are a big problem, either side acknowledging them creates massive tension. On the one hand NATO does not want it to become common knowledge that they're behaving this recklessly and on the other the Russian government doesn't want to have to explain to their people how the west is effectively sending soldiers into Ukraine especially when they're the ones launching missiles into Crimea and the Russian mainland. Covering this up suits both sides.
 
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