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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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They know why. They just don't want to admit it out loud.
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This appears to have been a Baptist effort. I would guess that the local Catholic church was also involved, just based on their dominant presence at March for Life year after year. This is the one thing that unites the Christian church. This should be our beachhead and our Normandy! CHOOSE LIFE!
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The funny thing about the "white rural voters are a threat to democracy" is the projection it involves.
The simple fact of the matter is participating in democracy via voting is one of very few ways white rural voters even could have influence in our society. They're not well-connected socially, they possess marginal amounts of wealth, they have no cultural power or academic imprimatur which would grant their views any traction in the wider public sphere. Voting for someone like Trump is one of the few ways they can express dissatisfaction and have anyone notice or care!
Meanwhile, the people ringing alarm bells about white rural voters tend to possess all those things, and their current strategy is to do everything they can, culturally and legally, to deny the white rural voters any say at all... which, if you're keeping score, makes them the enemies of democracy.
I have a fairly poor opinion of Donald Trump; and while I'm a white rural person myself, I would have many disagreements with the "white rural voter" these folks have built up in their heads. But all that said, democracy is ultimately about the power of people ruling themselves; if you preemptively declare that some portion of the public as having views that are just too awful to let them participate, you don't actually believe in democracy at all.
And, if the threat to abstract notions of good government isn't enough to provoke some thinking, there's the much more practical problem that you insulate yourself from having to address their concerns, which works fantastically well right up to the point it doesn't and everything boils over.
The simple fact of the matter is participating in democracy via voting is one of very few ways white rural voters even could have influence in our society. They're not well-connected socially, they possess marginal amounts of wealth, they have no cultural power or academic imprimatur which would grant their views any traction in the wider public sphere. Voting for someone like Trump is one of the few ways they can express dissatisfaction and have anyone notice or care!
Meanwhile, the people ringing alarm bells about white rural voters tend to possess all those things, and their current strategy is to do everything they can, culturally and legally, to deny the white rural voters any say at all... which, if you're keeping score, makes them the enemies of democracy.
I have a fairly poor opinion of Donald Trump; and while I'm a white rural person myself, I would have many disagreements with the "white rural voter" these folks have built up in their heads. But all that said, democracy is ultimately about the power of people ruling themselves; if you preemptively declare that some portion of the public as having views that are just too awful to let them participate, you don't actually believe in democracy at all.
And, if the threat to abstract notions of good government isn't enough to provoke some thinking, there's the much more practical problem that you insulate yourself from having to address their concerns, which works fantastically well right up to the point it doesn't and everything boils over.
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Democrats haven’t had an actual primary since 2008
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Gehenna did mention something about being involved with Wisconsin before. I imagine this is one of the fruits of his labor.
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All the oppression Olympics are for women to act like they are just as special and oppressed as the minority de jour for having a vagina. Of course they'd take a (longer) month the pat themselves on the back for giving the darkies one.
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I'd imagine it more has to do with Joe Biden being a dementia patient who was is currently being carted around like "Weekend at Bernie's" instead of a functioning person.
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@Wallace That's an interesting read, thanks for sharing!
As I've gotten older I've come to appreciate the value of democracy isn't in "letting everyone have a say," as such - many people seem totally overmatched just trying to run their own lives, much less to think critically about questions of economics or foreign policy that have no 'right answers' but only conflicting trade-offs - but in that it allows for the expression of broad public desires and broad public discontents.
An actual democracy that just naturally does that can succeed, or maybe more precisely, can succeed at dealing with the public desire problem - it may well fall apart due to one of the other well-known problems of democracy. So too can a sham democracy (i.e. much like what we've traditionally had) succeed in this way so long as it pays close attention to the public mood. In theory, any system of government that concerns itself with the desires of the public could be a pleasant, humane place to live that promoted human flourishing, and thus be socially stable. I think that the problem is that in any not-truly-democratic system, there is always going to be an attraction towards ignoring the public on the part of the rulers, and the further away from democracy one goes, the stronger the attraction becomes. The rulers are always going to be tempted to put their needs front and center, and to ignore or demean the desires of the lower orders.
And as the public's needs go unaddressed, they are then easy prey for factionalism, or demagogues, or extreme ideologies. It's not only physical needs, either: starving people can and do revolt, but sometimes those needs are psychological, and it's not starving poor people but totally disaffected or radicalized middle-class people manning the barricades. But in either case, and to wrap it back to my previous comment: widespread public anger isn't (or at least shouldn't be taken as) a sign that the public is "bad," it's a sign that the leadership is failing in a very important duty that may spell the end of that set of leaders.
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The Fani Willis closing arguments are taking place right now.
The state's closing argument is less coherent than a skitzo high on meth, telling a story about a monster chasing them. Not looking good for the state.
The state's closing argument is less coherent than a skitzo high on meth, telling a story about a monster chasing them. Not looking good for the state.
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Its entirely fitting that a woman who could pass as Chewbacca's wife is using the Chewbacca Defense as part of her prosecution.
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High-Fructose Corn Syrup
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Polls don't mean shit anymore.
The last 3 elections said one thing in polls and the results were very different.
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Judge says it'll be two weeks till the ruling for the Fani and Trump case in George is dropped. Should be an interesting decision and will not cause any forms of chaos to ensue.
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I'm rooting for the opposing side in any war we get into now
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You will never be a woman and I will never pretend you are or give you any affirmation for your fetish.
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Didn’t Michigan and Virginia (?) just switch to something that doesn’t log if a vote was mailed in, absentee, or Election Day?
I like how retarded our system is becoming.
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Anybody that's fairly educated in American civics would understand WHY there's an electoral college system for voting. I never understood it at first. Now, after reading this statement, I see why. Major cities with huge population densities would just unanimously influence elections each time. American citizens have a problem with ignorance and complacence of how/who runs our elective system. It doesn't help with social media dumbing down history to basics and news media feeding off hysteria and fear mongering. I'd hope that the American populace would wise up on how government works TO fight for a better future.
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