Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

It’s possible this was always his plan but we know he isn’t the brightest bulb in the box.
There are some things to consider here:
Patrick thinks he's the smartest man in any room, but is often the stupidest. He is also very litigious, and he never learns.

Do I believe an overconfident boob who thinks he's a legal expert concocted a hairbrained scheme to defraud the government? Of course, there's some speculation he did that with Torque Wheeler with the COVID loans stuff.

It may also speak to a level of desperation though, he paid Quasi back 50k when the only option was jail. Maybe that extra 20k is beyond his means, so he had to activate the "plan" in a final hail Mary to get enough money to pay.
 
What evidence is there of this?
He lives in a shit neighborhood, there are calls to Oakland Ave every day. He has taken pictures of fire engines parked down the street and claimed them as swats. He lives next door to a low income apartment complex which has multiple tenants.
The July 2022 swatting was called in to the 'wrong' address (the empty duplex right next to Pat). So either the swatter mistaken gave a slightly wrong address (but one just close enough to get Pat) or he did it on purpose to confuse any possible alerts in the system for Pat's specific address.
How about the swats he claims that aren't even in the blotter.
Or even better, when jackie tweeted about it before Pat and before the blotter was even updated.
idk. I'm not obsessed enough with pat to know and investigate every claim he or his toilet make (though I really hope it all ends up in a court record to read). I am pointing out that just because a call is not coded to his address does not mean it was not intended for him, because of the way the system works and the fact that swatters\hoaxers know that- the above being an example I remembered from earlier.

edit- and I'm really gonna be pissed if they're actually barred from proceeding because of failure to file notice of claim like AnOnimous said, I wanna see this shit go to trial
 
Assuming they are using the CAD I’m familiar with, those alerts still show up even if it’s just in the area.
So if they called 122 Fatrick’s Down the Street Neighbor, it would still give the notification that in the outer area there is a Pigman at half-hovel address that is hostile to the police and mentally ill (given his antics and bragging about guns, I wouldn’t surprised if it mentions he’s armed).

He’s going to lose the lolsuit if it goes to trial. Outside of the pepperoni incident and the naked hog roundup incident, both of which the police apparently had reason to believe involved a life-threatening situation, it doesn’t seem like they’ve done more than knock on the door to ask if everything is ok. They can’t really ignore a call because then the Pig would sue for the one time he’s actually culturally enriched. And you may think how could anyone take the pepperoni-making seriously but there was a serial killer that actually did that to at least one child.
 
The July 2022 swatting was called in to the 'wrong' address (the empty duplex right next to Pat). So either the swatter mistaken gave a slightly wrong address (but one just close enough to get Pat) or he did it on purpose to confuse any possible alerts in the system for Pat's specific address.
Or, pat did it himself and the reason he's above and beyond furious in that audio is because he expected the police to knock on the other side of the duplex and just leave, instead of coming into the clearly occupied other side of the same building.
 
edit- and I'm really gonna be pissed if they're actually barred from proceeding because of failure to file notice of claim like AnOnimous said, I wanna see this shit go to trial
That might be the best timeline, because you KNOW Hatrick Pomlinson will swat himself immediately and refile, hopefully via Jackie so they all get grand juried and indited and enjoy prison for ever and ever amen.
 
Judge: "Mr. Tomlinson...you stated that the officers have abused you and your wife. Going as far as causing Mental Truama?"

Fat: "Yes, sir"

Judge: "That's 'Your Honor', Mr. Tomlinson. You will address me as such"

Fat: "No, chi.....I mean, Yes, sir"

Judge: *Sigh* "Yet in your tweets, you state that 'Everything is fine. My life couldn't be better, stalker'. Is that correct?"

Fat: "That is not correct, sir. I never made those statements" *Sweating bullets*

Judge: "Mr Tomlinson, I have the tweet right here in front of me. It's even still up on the site. And, once again, it's 'Your Honor'."

Fat: "NO, CHILD YOU DO NOT. YOU KNOW NOTHING, CHILD. YOU HAVE PEANUT BUTTER IN YOUR MOUTH, CHILD. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY!"

Judge: "Bailiff, arrest him and toss him into a cell for contempt of court. I hereby Dismiss your case on the grounds that you're a fat faggot with bitch tits. Court Dismissed." *Gavel thump*

>Pat tries to fight bailiff

>Pat get's bodied by bailiff and dragged by his feet squealing like the fat retard he is.
 
I couldn't imagine it, but here we are Patrick trying to child a city, he's moving up in the world, what's next Patrick VS state?
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If memory serves, this is *exactly* what TorSwats said the SWATTTINGS we're designed to do. I'll have to dig through the thread but I am certain he mentions that Fatrick wants to sue the MPD.

I, personally, am going to enjoy what happens nexxxttttttt.
yes thats what he said
im pretty sure the claim is sourced somewhere in that video cryptic web chronicles posted yesterday
i would look for it but im phoneposting rn

i wonder if the trial of the torswats kid would compromise what little chance he has in court, or maybe even get pat in trouble for fraud
 
This seems like a good reason to sue, tbh. This would be an absolute nightmare to live through. What kind of precedent is set if someone can be targeted like this indefinitely and cops don't have to adjust their approach? I'm hoping Fatrick takes the W on this one for the greater good

On the other hand, police forces really do need to consider adopting an actual, nationwide protocol for dealing with situations where an address gets repeatedly swatted/called in on. Something actually on the books they can point to when these types of situations arise.

It doesn't seem like that exists at this point, they very much seem to still play it by ear.
A lot of local law enforcement agencies have a list you can get on if you are a streamer or someone else likely to be the target of swatting where they will contact you when they receive a call to respond to a hostage taking/murder/etc. at your address so you can meet them at the door, let them in, they can look around and make sure there are no blood trails, apologize for the trouble, and leave. Metokur is on such a list, a few of his streams have been interrupted because he needs to go greet the police and let them in because they notified him they were coming over.

It would be amusing if MPD did have such a program, but Tomlinson never bothered to avail himself of it despite calling dispatch up to yell at them.
 
Fun fact: unless he served a Notice of Injury and Claim to the Attorney General within 120 days of the event, he can't sue.

So this suit could be fatally flawed from the outset even disregarding the qualified immunity doctrine.
He surely has not.
He would have needed an attorney to advise him of that, and the last one that was hired last minute from the phone-book to keep his fat ass out of jail.


We all knew that he is completely unable to learn from... well, anything, but starting another ill-advised lawsuit while not even having paid off the last one, is a new high of retardation he reached.
 
The comment I was responding to is one of legal liability, not general duty.
I know you were, and I understand the distinction.

However, the article you linked was about the Parkland 14A case against the county, sheriff and school officials, which referred to caselaw; that case didn't create anything new, so I identified what the Court in that case was actually deciding. I'd have cited Warren or Castle Rock for the point you were making.

In the criminal trial against the school-based officer, the prosecution sought, among other things, a criminal child neglect charge on the theory that Peterson (the defendant) was a "caregiver" and thus had child care-related duties (there was no specific law on point about officers assigned to schools). That theory was rejected and he was found not guilty on that and all other charges. (But see below on actual, practical outcome.)

Yes, general, police officers have a "general duty" to protect the public, but not a specific one to an individual absent a specific relationship, such as being in custody. Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is usually cited for this, along with the Castle Rock Supreme Court decision.

Summary of the concept:

However:
I think it's important to remind people: If the police don't keep you safe, the courts don't let you sue the cops, even if the judge might say she feels really bad about it (like the stabbing case). Plenty of caselaw behind it.

I'll repeat my comment that nothing prevents suing - whether on a 14th basis or caregiver neglect or some other theory; suing and winning are different.

And to that point, as noted/linked, 127.5 million dollars were paid out from the Feds as a result of the events of that situation, lack of admission of legal fault either by court decision or in formal statements about the settlement notwithstanding.

Prior to the Fed settlement, Broward County paid $25M.

So sure, you "can't" sue in most cases, but you can; and you "can't" succeed on that suit, but you may ultimately gain some compensation.

Tl; dr: caselaw/Constitutional law (especially) and practical outcome are not always perfectly aligned.

Ps - less than 2 months ago another civil suit against the school-based officer was allowed to move forward to trial with a denied motion to dismiss. Kind of a weird ruling - the Court
said the extent of this officer's duty is also something for the jury to decide, saying there is a "genuine dispute" over whether Peterson had a "special relationship with students, teachers and administration" that went beyond what law enforcement officers typically have with the public,
per the linked article. And though a named defendant along with Peterson (the officer), Broward County did not argue for dismissal. I suspect an appellate brief is already framed out.
 
I don't get how Pat thinks this is going to work. This guy lies the dumbest things, in the worst way possible.

He claimed his father was a celebrated, championship bull rider, as if the sport doesn't keep records. He lies about his GPA and arrest record.

I honestly think that Pat believes his attorneys will be allowed to just show the NBC Nightly News story and then rest their case.
 
I don't get how Pat thinks this is going to work. This guy lies the dumbest things, in the worst way possible.
This is literally how his tiny little pig mind works. Remember the Nadolski case? He thought he could just make up some bullshit, fake some texts, and he'd somehow win. He was astounded to get laughed out of court.

Remember him paying Quasi? He thought Quasi was going to enjoy prison. Instead he enjoyed getting paid.
 
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