Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Eternal Gopnik]

Reminds me of that time a Head of a US intelligence agency (I forgot which one and can't remember what the video was called, unfortunately) was being questioned about his competence so he got angry and started going off on how his ancestors were holocaust survivors and he shouldn't be treated like this. IIRC it was a recent thing, like a month or 2 ago.

That was Alejandro Mayorkas, Secretary of Homeland Security - the guy chiefly responsible for the current US border invasion.

 

[geckogoy]

Yea I don't think jewland going away represents any real weakening of the ZOG, they are just cleaning house due to some internal BS.

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

The competency crisis really affects propaganda as well, this is way stupider than communist newspapers.

I remember early into the conflict thinking that Russia was getting blasted in the propaganda war. In hindsight, I think they realised that they didn't really have to waste time even trying. Would be interesting to see an honest timeline of propaganda effectiveness over the course of this conflict, even up to now, but obviously at the end too.

 

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

Fucking hell some of these jobs you need a college degree for .

None of these jobs require a university degree in Germany, you qualify for them by attenting a three year trade school program. Some also have shorter equivalents at for-profit adult education schools.

Just stop subsidising rents its like giving blank check to landlords to write whatever the fuck they want

Renting is already subject to heavy controls, you can't just "write whatever you want" unless you have a unquenchable thirst for getting sued.

Here's a little hint what is actually wrong with the German welfare system: The word starts with an f and ends with oreigners.

 

[Pаzuzu]

There are rumors of jewlenski's motorcade getting missiled in the Odessa today.
Probably a nothingburger.

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1765361307765657872

New footage shows crew of Russian landing ship Caesar Kunikov, sunk by Ukrainian kamikaze USVs on February 14, trying to repel the attack. The battle against 10 kamikaze USVs lasted 20 minutes. Caesar Kunikov's crew left the ship on life rafts, without loss of personnel.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

There are rumors of jewlenski's motorcade getting missiled in the Odessa today.
Probably a nothingburger.
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This is mildly notable because 1) until now Russia went out of its way to stop shooting when he and foreign dignitaries were doing an inspection, 2) Kiev tried to memoryhole all mentions of there being a meeting between Zelensky and the Greeks at all, and 3) Kiev is not screaming bloody murder like they usually do. It is almost like they have not yet decided how to react.

 

[Buck Breaking SS]

So she did a lot of damage in her time as a diplomat.

What's that about female politicians being bloodthirsty warmongers? Nuland, Hillary, etc

 

[Obsessed snowman]

What's that about female politicians being bloodthirsty warmongers? Nuland, Hillary, etc

I imagine that for a woman to be a successful politician she has to be an absolute psychopath.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Going to jail for refusing to fight sounds like a better choice than getting blown up.

It kinda chaps my ass the ukie bros really support this especially certain ukies who rah rah the fight while they fled to Poland. Disgusting behavior.

I imagine that for a woman to be a successful politician she has to be an absolute psychopath.

Well there is Nuland, Hillary, Thatcher, Janet Reno, Pelosi, Feinstein, all hotheads and ruthless fuckers

 

[Slur Generator]

I imagine that for a woman to be a successful politician she has to be an absolute psychopath.

I assume all politicians and billionaires are psycopaths

 

[borsabil]

Yea I don't think jewland going away represents any real weakening of the ZOG, they are just cleaning house due to some internal BS.

Nuland is a committed ideologue and machine politician. as well as being a fat gargoyle looking warpig. Fuck no she's moving on voluntarily, that bitch has worked her way up via coups, colour revolts and mass murder, monsters like her don't 'retire'. She 100% has been fired which is interesting in that it can only mean the US is about to sell out yet another ally it's promised to support as long as it takes (lol) and that things in Ukraine are way, way worse than anyone is admitting. I think we're about to witness a complete collapse on the front and we're entering the how can we save the furniture stage by cutting a deal,with the Russians with Nuland being an obvious impediment to. Ukraine is currently losing 1.5-2K men a day tdefending their last fortifications in the Donbas, this shit is close to it's expiration date.

 

[BikeLock]

What's that about female politicians being bloodthirsty warmongers? Nuland, Hillary, etc

I think it has a lot to do with females not being physically held accountable for voting to send their men to war, as they are not subject to the same draft, and even if they do "serve" they don't intentionally see frontline combat.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

A video of the landing ship Caesar Kunilov being attacked by USVs has come out.

As per the source, the ship was attacked by 10 and destroyed 4. The remaining 6 hit the ship and hit in a manner to try and make the ship capsize.

Crew evacuated after the list became unrecoverable.

Link: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15913

Takeaways area the Russian sailors did as well as they could with what they were armed with. Ships need to mount 2-4 stabilized and remote operated autocannons per side of the ship today, at a minimum. Smaller Hellfire or Korent or Javelin type missiles covering each side of the ship should also be looked into. Preferably something fire and forget.

 

[Kane Lives]

A video of the landing ship Caesar Kunilov being attacked by USVs has come out.

As per the source, the ship was attacked by 10 and destroyed 4. The remaining 6 hit the ship and hit in a manner to try and make the ship capsize.

Crew evacuated after the list became unrecoverable.

Link: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15913

Takeaways area the Russian sailors did as well as they could with what they were armed with. Ships need to mount 2-4 stabilized and remote operated autocannons per side of the ship today, at a minimum. Smaller Hellfire or Korent or Javelin type missiles covering each side of the ship should also be looked into. Preferably something fire and forget.

Man, if this heralds the return of pom-poms just to defend surface ships, time truly is a flat circle. Those are cool as a spectacle too, as a bonus.

 

[Rubick]

Takeaways area the Russian sailors did as well as they could with what they were armed with. Ships need to mount 2-4 stabilized and remote operated autocannons per side of the ship today, at a minimum. Smaller Hellfire or Korent or Javelin type missiles covering each side of the ship should also be looked into. Preferably something fire and forget.

Wont save anything. When the personnel wait for command from a shore HQ to start damage control for fuck sakes.. And sit anchored and immobile after receiving a warning about possible attack 30 minutes ago..

The BSF doesn't do basic shit and continuously getting punished for it.

Also, late and already posted

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

EDIT: Also a friendly reminder that literally nobody wanted these Euro 4Gen planes. They were hoping for export sales back in the day, shipped them around for years without getting any takers (Apart from the couple of Eurofighters they sold to Saudi Arabia, when the Saudis wanted to get closer to Europe.) until a few third world shitholes that needed to replace their Soviet planes from the 1960ies finally picked up a few.

The Rafale is doing great on the export market now.

Typhoon is basically dead as is the Gripen.

My poor mother in law just passed, married for many decades to my retired suvmariner father in law. So last weekend I was driving to my old lady's home town right outside of Bremerton WA. I always find it interesting to see what the navy has tied up along the waiting for disposal dock. For many years it was a swarm of aging carriers, but last weekend I was treated to the busted hulk of a catameran style LCS. I got thinking maybe the best way to further streamline the defense industry might be to just hand cash out directly to arms conglomerates, system apparatchiks and party yes men politicians. Building the ridiculous boondoggles is just wasting everyone's time. Indeed with the current system maybe some of the money ends up in the hands of some welder or something seething with white rage. We can just cut that wasteful part of the loop right out.

The initial LCS designs were absolutely trash, especially the catamaran version. Cracking hulls, awful NVH for the crew, issue after issue.

Instead of a nice conventional frigate the Navy went full retard and decided the LCS program ships HAD TO hit 40 FUCKING KNOTS. That is retard speed for a warship that size and basically useless. There is a reason most warships to out at 28-32 knots and that's because any faster and you start making huge compromises to get that fast.

That and, unlike Europe's offerings, Russia's already relatively cheaper cost means that a number of the Russian MIC's big ticket items from jets, to AFV's, so submarines can be exported world wide, increasing their production runs and thus even further lowering the cost per unit

Right until CAATSA passed. This kneecapped Russian arms exports unless it's to places like Iran, Myanmar, sub Saharan Africa or a few counties in South America.

It stopped Egypt from buying dozens of Sukhois and it's allegedly pushing India to look away from Russian arms for new buys

You sure about the gibs buddy? If one would go for social benefits why not go for Germany or France. The states got no Universal healthcare for example. The Bild news paper though is asking the most important question:

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"Employment or social benefits: what pays more?"

And since the new Buergergeld they even publish lists of jobs that pay LESS than sitting on your ass and receiving welfare. LOL.

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https://www.nius.de/gesellschaft/in...rgergeld/9fbbbcd7-a584-4c3e-a78e-4c62a3e28faa

Based on a family of 4 people, 2 kids included that is.
Muslims may have low IQs but they know how to get something for nothing. Try to beat that, America! I would go for it myself, but I enjoy driving my car too much.

The USA has free healthcare, schooling, housing, food and even cash handouts if you're a fucking illegal alien.

They also work cash only jobs to keep gibs.

Regarding the whole "europe has many good weapon systems and institutional knowledge is fantastic" thing, overall they dont maintain anything, leaving major issues unresolved for years (archive), barely make anything new (archive), and only very slowly make replacement parts (archive).

Normally you would have some innate production capacity just due to maintaining your standing forces, but that upkeep has been neglected for decades. They do have a 'MIC' but it is comparatively very small and limited.

It's small due to the 1990s peace cuts and the fact that most EU militaries are tiny and can only support small orders.

My theory is that the Biden Administration is trying to get out of the quagmire that Nuland desperately wants to keep going. With Congress not allowing more aid and Ukraine's collapse seemingly inevitable Nuland's options were limited.
She probably attempted to convince the Europeans that it was time for NATO to intervene. Macron jumped at the chance while Sholtz balked and released those tapes.

So she did a lot of damage in her time as a diplomat.

Probably but I'd bet money on Congress passing a multi billion dollar Ukraine aid bill in the next 2-3 months.

That'll keep Ukraine propped up until 2025 as the Euros are also dumping billions into Ukraine at the moment.

Don't conflate sales failures with engineering failures. They might be good planes, but for already mentioned reasons, can't be made in high enough numbers cheaply enough to be viable. Also probably not enough bribe money from the manufacturer

The Typhoon is almost out of production, the Gripen E is a sales disaster (wow 40 jets to Brazil) and is probably dead once the Brazilian and Swedish air force orders are completed in 4-5 years.

However.... The Rafale is doing great as it's essentially a French Super Hornet with a slightly better ECM system, equivalent radar and slightly better performance.

It's also essentially 100% French so no annoying export restrictions unlike Typhoon (Germany)and Gripen (US engine and radar).

Wont save anything. When the personnel wait for command from a shore HQ to start damage control for fuck sakes.. And sit anchored and immobile after receiving a warning about possible attack 30 minutes ago..

The BSF doesn't do basic shit and continuously getting punished for it.

Also, late and already posted

Yeah I didn't see it... Whoops.

I think the BSF command staff needs to be tied to the bow of a suicide boat and launched into Odessa.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

What's that about female politicians being bloodthirsty warmongers? Nuland, Hillary, etc

Both women and politicians view men as essentially objects, combine the two and add in the fact that they themselves aren't the ones who are expected to go die in a trench somewhere, sprinkle in the fact that most soldiers are from the lower/middle class and you have Hillary frothing at the mouth to get into a nice peer conflict.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

Both women and politicians view men as essentially objects, combine the two and add in the fact that they themselves aren't the ones who are expected to go die in a trench somewhere, sprinkle in the fact that most soldiers are from the lower/middle class and you have Hillary frothing at the mouth to get into a nice peer conflict.

Amusingly I read your post right after I saw this clip

 

[Rei is Shit.]

You dumb fucktard. That's a jap uniform. That negroid is working for the japs.
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This is the show its from "飛虎隊大營救" or Flying Tigers Rescue;

 

[The Ugly One]

What's that about female politicians being bloodthirsty warmongers? Nuland, Hillary, etc

Women have no intuitive understanding of what it means to inflict violence. It's 100% something men do on their behalf.

It's not unlike how composers will write particularly brutal lead parts & cadenzas for instruments they don't play and voices they don't sing.

Man, if this heralds the return of pom-poms just to defend surface ships, time truly is a flat circle. Those are cool as a spectacle too, as a bonus.

Eventually, modern technology will make guns obsolete, and it's back to maniples and phalanxes.