Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

[Teghern]

Very cool theory. But we know of them before the Mongol Invasions and they seem to have set up shop in Wallachia already in the 12th century. Still their "kenez" (literally Slavic knyaz, wtf) have Slavic and Cuman names circla 1242 or 1245 (almost pre-mongol Invasion).

I hear "Roman"ians speak on a daily basis and it is just Polish in an Italian accent to me, I can completely believe they're just slavs who got had a Vlach ruling caste imposed on them by hungaryans who themselves went extinct and were supplanted by their slav minions but preserved the X lineage through the power of womb continuity, funny how there's no mainstream theory promoting that though.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I hear "Roman"ians speak on a daily basis and it is just Polish in an Italian accent to me, I can completely believe they're just slavs who got had a Vlach ruling caste imposed on them by hungaryans who themselves went extinct and were supplanted by their slav minions but preserved the X lineage through the power of womb continuity, funny how there's no mainstream theory promoting that though.

Romanian is a Romance language though its not even close to slavic.

 

[Teghern]

Romanian is a Romance language though its not even close to slavic.

Yeah and the glorious English tongue is allegedly Germanic (not for long lol) despite being a complete mutt creole without any proper rules which steals random words from everywhere.
They are very close indeed but not by being the same, you ever see those youtube shorts about "what X language sounds like to non speakers"? Very different yes but Romanian shares enough loan words and general tone that unless I'm actually paying attention it just blends into regular zapodslav, like how you might easily confuse pajeetspeak with ayatollahian.

 

[Corpun]

Another very notable thing to have an article on!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_car_smell

No article for Old Book Smell though, the most kino of all smells.

This is a cruel and unjust world.

 

[BootlegPopeye]

I try my best to avoid any Wiki articles on anything even somewhat Trump related, but I stumbled upon this one earlier -

Want to read an up to date summary? Too bad, you get this instead:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_presidential_eligibility_of_Donald_Trump#Public_opinion

..between this and its many notes, this useless 'public opinion' section nearly doubles the length of the article (like it matters here at all) and just goes on listing off various completely unrelated polls on Trump and a needless 'timeline' smack in the middle of it.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Very cool theory. But we know of them before the Mongol Invasions and they seem to have set up shop in Wallachia already in the 12th century. Still their "kenez" (literally Slavic knyaz, wtf) have Slavic and Cuman names circla 1242 or 1245 (almost pre-mongol Invasion).

>be shepherd
>scary raiders on horseback all around you
>sell daughter and some sheep to scary raiders so scary raiders protect tribe from other scary raiders and Hungarian/Bulgarian "tacks culecktor"
>scary raider noble decide he prince now
>be happy with that

There, summarized the beginning of Romanian history. No silly theories needed.

 

[Fapcop]

Want to know something about Romanian dictator Antonescu?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu

WELL TOUGH TITTIES PEASANT! BECAUSE HERES A HOLOCAUST LECTURE INSTEAD!

As with everything even tangentially related to WW2, we get a lecture about the six gorillion.

Want to know about how Antonescu’s political maneuvering? Romanian military strategy? Domestic policies? Well, you obviously has to look for that elsewhere than in an article about Ion Antonescu. Instead here’s a massacre in Odessa and the list of the camps that Romanian Jews were taken to.

This is so fucking tiresome.

Wikipedia USED to be a decent place to get a rough outline of some historical topic. Especially relatively recent history.

Today, it’s like as if Yad Vashem ran the Jewish Virtual Library.

 

[foreman 89]

Want to know something about Romanian dictator Antonescu?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu

WELL TOUGH TITTIES PEASANT! BECAUSE HERES A HOLOCAUST LECTURE INSTEAD!

As with everything even tangentially related to WW2, we get a lecture about the six gorillion.

Want to know about how Antonescu’s political maneuvering? Romanian military strategy? Domestic policies? Well, you obviously has to look for that elsewhere than in an article about Ion Antonescu. Instead here’s a massacre in Odessa and the list of the camps that Romanian Jews were taken to.

This is so fucking tiresome.

Wikipedia USED to be a decent place to get a rough outline of some historical topic. Especially relatively recent history.

Today, it’s like as if Yad Vashem ran the Jewish Virtual Library.

Well you can read under the biography and ideology sections to learn about that stuff.. The Holocaust was one of the biggest acts of mass murders in history (I know some here deny it so let's not get into debates about it) and this man had direct responsibility in Romania, it should be acknowledged.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

The Holocaust already gets overexposed to shit and way too shoved down people's throats. If you are looking into a specific leader of a nation state you should be given all info related to him and not have the entire article focus on something else that happened while they were in power in a different country where they were only tangentially related.

 

[Fapcop]

Well you can read under the biography and ideology sections to learn about that stuff..

“Why is 90% of this article about something unrelated?”

“What are you complaining about? There’s still a few paragraphs actually related to the topic!”

The Holocaust was one of the biggest acts of mass murders in history (I know some here deny it so let's not get into debates about it)

Oh please… “Muh six billions! Oy vey! Nobody has been murdered like this before!”

Going by the numbers, the holocaust was a minor footnote in WW2. The Soviet Union alone suffered six holocausts during the war.

“Oh but that was a war! That doesn’t count!” (And why exactly not?!) Fine! Mao alone was responsible for five holocausts without any wars… How come I don’t have to suffer through babbling about The Cultural Revolution every time I read something related to China?

and this man had direct responsibility in Romania, it should be acknowledged.

He had responsibility for an entire state. I know it may blow your mind, but there are more important shit in the world than some dead Jews.

(And the worst part about this shoah-business is that it’s relatively new. Like if you picked up a WW 2 book in 1994 it might have had a chapter devoted to the holocaust. Unlike today when you can’t browse the history isle without seeing entire tomes about the fate of Albanian Jews, the Holocaust and Balkan Folksingers and on and on.)

The Holocaust already gets overexposed to shit and way too shoved down people's throats. If you are looking into a specific leader of a nation state you should be given all info related to him and not have the entire article focus on something else that happened while they were in power in a different country where they were only tangentially related.

Wikipedia is more and more like a bad Siri parody.

“Who was Ion Antonescu?”

“Here’s what I found on Romania and the holocaust!”

 

[foreman 89]

“Why is 90% of this article about something unrelated?”

“What are you complaining about? There’s still a few paragraphs actually related to the topic!”

Oh please… “Muh six billions! Oy vey! Nobody has been murdered like this before!”

Going by the numbers, the holocaust was a minor footnote in WW2. The Soviet Union alone suffered six holocausts during the war.

“Oh but that was a war! That doesn’t count!” (And why exactly not?!) Fine! Mao alone was responsible for five holocausts without any wars… How come I don’t have to suffer through babbling about The Cultural Revolution every time I read something related to China?


He had responsibility for an entire state. I know it may blow your mind, but there are more important shit in the world than some dead Jews.

(And the worst part about this shoah-business is that it’s relatively new. Like if you picked up a WW 2 book in 1994 it might have had a chapter devoted to the holocaust. Unlike today when you can’t browse the history isle without seeing entire tomes about the fate of Albanian Jews, the Holocaust and Balkan Folksingers and on and on.)



Wikipedia is more and more like a bad Siri parody.

“Who was Ion Antonescu?”

“Here’s what I found on Romania and the holocaust!”

It's not 90% of the article though and the murder of 400,000 people in 4 years is pretty fucking significant. Here's an article on Romania during WW2 with the holocaust only having one section - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_in_World_War_II

 

[Fapcop]

It's not 90% of the article

Yes, it’s more like 80%.

though and the murder of 400,000 people in 4 years is pretty fucking significant.

400.000 dead is pretty significant, eh? I’d disagree, I’d say it’s more like a footnote in the millions of dead.

Regardless, following your argument that it’s significant: Roughly 100.000 Germans civilians of Romanian descent died in expulsions or forced work by the USSR. (Die deutschen Vertreibungsverluste. Bevölkerungsbilanzen für die deutschen Vertreibungsgebiete 1939/50.Herausgeber: Statistisches Bundesamt – Wiesbaden – Stuttgart: Verlag W. Kohlhammer, 1958.)

How come they’re not given a quarter of the very generous space here?

Perhaps, it’s just an oversight… Lets see how Wikipedia treats another person with a very high body count:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

WAIT A SECOND! It’s almost as if an entirely different editorial standard applies!

Here's an article on Romania during WW2 with the holocaust only having one section - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_in_World_War_II

Let me get this straight…

So your answer to “Why is the article about X mostly about Z?!” is: “Here’s an article about Y that has less of Z!”

 

[Corpun]

Want to know something about Romanian dictator Antonescu?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu

WELL TOUGH TITTIES PEASANT! BECAUSE HERES A HOLOCAUST LECTURE INSTEAD!

As with everything even tangentially related to WW2, we get a lecture about the six gorillion.

Want to know about how Antonescu’s political maneuvering? Romanian military strategy? Domestic policies? Well, you obviously has to look for that elsewhere than in an article about Ion Antonescu. Instead here’s a massacre in Odessa and the list of the camps that Romanian Jews were taken to.

This is so fucking tiresome.

Wikipedia USED to be a decent place to get a rough outline of some historical topic. Especially relatively recent history.

Today, it’s like as if Yad Vashem ran the Jewish Virtual Library.

That's the bbest photo they have of him? SOme grainy photo with too much light on it? I know WIkipedia has autistic rules about photographs but I find it hard to believe this gyppo doesn't have any royalty free photos that are better to use than that.

 

[AnOminous]

So your answer to “Why is the article about X mostly about Z?!” is: “Here’s an article about Y that has less of Z!”

Have you got anything without Spam?

Well, the Spam, eggs, sausage and Spam, that's not got much Spam in it.

I don't want any Spam!

 

[JJLiautaud]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_tax

This article is bad and should feel bad
1) Romans didnt use salt as a currency the salt salary conection is a big fat we dont know probably metaphorical.
2) The chinese tax thing diffusing throughout the ancient world is doubtful because we know the romans instituted a salt tax in 204 BC less than a hundred years, compared to say gunpowder which takes roughly 300-ish years to diffuse through Eurasia.
3) The contention that salt taxes increased living standards is bizarre when there are actual revolts that happened partly due to the salt tax.
4) this article is bad and should feel bad.

 

[AnOminous]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_tax

This article is bad and should feel bad
1) Romans didnt use salt as a currency the salt salary conection is a big fat we dont know probably metaphorical.

Soldiers got a ration of salt which is a lot different than it being used as a currency.

3) The contention that salt taxes increased living atandards when there are actual revolts that happened partly due to the salt tax.

Utter nutso bullshit. People have always bitterly resented salt taxes. In fact, it was a salt tax that set off Gandhi's separatist movement in earnest because people were furious about it.

 

[Corpun]

In September 2023, the judge presiding over the civil suit ruled that Trump, his adult sons and the organization repeatedly committed fraud and ordered their New York business certificates canceled and their business entities sent into receivership for dissolution in what has been described by observers as a "corporate death penalty". Trump and the organization were ordered to pay nearly $355 million before interest in February 2024, with further restrictions placed on the Trump Organization's business certificates, and on both Trump and his adult sons' ability to do business in New York.[19][20][21][22][17]

Five fucking citations. FIVE!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization

 

[BootlegPopeye]

In September 2023, the judge presiding over the civil suit ruled that Trump, his adult sons and the organization repeatedly committed fraud and ordered their New York business certificates canceled and their business entities sent into receivership for dissolution in what has been described by observers as a "corporate death penalty".

This isn't even accurate, his (bullshit) ruling did not impose 'Corporate Death Penalty', which has an exact legal meaning in NY state. All of those citations are from last year, before anything was decided and he 'could' have imposed it, but did not.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Wikipedia is just enforcing the party line, the little numbers just make it so trained party officials know it is the Approved Truth.

 

[Corpun]

This isn't even accurate, his (bullshit) ruling did not impose 'Corporate Death Penalty', which has an exact legal meaning in NY state. All of those citations are from last year, before anything was decided and he 'could' have imposed it, but did not.

Like everything Trump related on Wikipedia, it's all half truths of stuff that could have happened but didn't/wasn't confirmed.