Disaster "Mass casualty incident" declared after Key Bridge in Baltimore collapses

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No article yet as this just happened, but could be big. One of the largest bridges in the world according to Wikipedia.


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Somebody in the thread mentioned somewhere Joe Biden mandated new "eco-friendly" engines be put on cargo ships that enter the USA's territorial waters. The problem is these engines don't put out enough power and the ships electrical are not optimized for its short circuits happen "all the time", but this is the first time it's happened at possibly the worst moment.

Anyone who actually knows anything about this care to opine?
it was @PaladinBoo according to her step father newer ships have underpowered engines and the “greener” fuel is fucky wucky with the older engines.

@Drain Todger is supposedly a diesel mechanic on ships and is currently going over reports on how it was a piece of shit.
 
Tinfoil hat shit aside, what one component can kill the power to an entire ship? It's safe to assume that the gennies are running in pairs, or pairs of pairs, right?

I'm willing to take the L on this one, but in a manual diesel car (that's a stick-shift for the mutts) a diesel engine can run away with itself and cutting of the power (turning the keys off) does nothing, you have to stall the car to stop the engine turning.

How does a ship lose power and all the engines die, for a brief period before firing back up again? Surely there's lots of systems running to prevent that?
 
51 pages and only one "poop deck" joke, I am genuinely shocked.

When the crew is Indian, any deck is a poop deck.

Anyways, here’s a video showcasing the best in Indian seamanship.


The video of the bridge collapsing actually reminded me a lot of the brick boat going down, with how fast it happens.

That being said, this bridge wasn’t meant to get hit by a ship that big. So it went down in a hurry. But the “Indians fuck up and cause a disaster that could fit in the length of a Vine” formula is there.
 
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Sped up the footage of the collision.

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>"Oh yeah I just HAPPENED to be recording the bridge at 1am as it happened."

Also could have literally just uploaded the last 5 seconds so I didn't have to spend 5 minutes waiting for this dogshit server to download the preceding 60 seconds of nothing, retard.
 
Apparently the captain was a Ukrainian but never underestimate a pajeets ability to fuck up. Especially a ship of over 20 of them.
That Ukrainian served on the ship in 2015-2016ish and that information was explicitly present on the site the whole time. However because you could leave comments and people are leaving shitposts they have since hidden his file. His last voyage finished in mid February.
 
That Ukrainian served on the ship in 2015-2016ish and that information was explicitly present on the site the whole time. However because you could leave comments and people are leaving shitposts they have since hidden his file. His last voyage finished in mid February.

So it was a total Superpoower victory without the help needed from drunk slavs!

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How does a ship lose power and all the engines die, for a brief period before firing back up again? Surely there's lots of systems running to prevent that?
It’s not as simple as engines running or not. Generators that size are more like power stations. They can stop producing electricity in a number of ways, and are designed to do so very quickly to avoid causing explosion and fire in the event of an overload. (The engine itself keeps running).
Why would all trip off line at once? Could be some big load like a main hydraulic set developing a short, or something in the distribution system.

@Drain Todger is finding out how much of a shitshow the vessel was, so there’s a good chance of multiple things being wrong or broken. Normally a 1 minute outage would not result in disaster.
 
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So far I've been hearing a lot about the ship somehow warned the road crew, although not by who or how, but so far all I can find is that someone on the crew noticed it first.
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The ship declared a Mayday, and the Bridge workers closed the bridge immediately.

Whoever was stuck working the literal graveyard shift at 1:30 in the fucking morning deserve fucking medals, because apparently they didn't even wait for orders. They heard the mayday over the radio and turned the traffic signals on the bridge to Red.

This would have been a much greater disaster if they had not done that.

Every industrial facility be it a bridge, a steel smelter, an assembly line or even a fucking gas station, has a very big red button that when pressed stops everything. Whoever presses that button is immediately on the spot and if they don't have a damn good reason they are fired.

Someone pressed the red button within seconds of the Mayday going out. I would love to know who they are.
 
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The ship declared a Mayday, and the Bridge workers closed the bridge immediately.

Whoever was stuck working the literal graveyard shift at 1:30 in the fucking morning deserve fucking medals, because apparently they didn't even wait for orders. They heard the mayday over the radio and turned the traffic signals on the bridge to Red.

This would have been a much greater disaster if they had not done that.

Every industrial facility be it a bridge, a steel smelter, an assembly line or even a fucking gas station, has a very big red button that when pressed stops everything. Whenever presses that button is immediately on the spot and if they don't have a damn good reason they are fired.

Someone pressed the red button within seconds of the Mayday going out. I would love to know who they are.
They’ll be black, and people here will complain when they get medals.
 
It’s not as simple as engines running or not. Generators that size are more like power stations. They can stop producing electricity in a number of ways, and are designed to do so very quickly to avoid causing explosion and fire in the event of an overload. (The engine itself keeps running).
Why would all trip off line at once? Could be some big load like a main hydraulic set developing a short, or something in the distribution system
I'm sure there are redundancy systems that keep running in case one breaks or stops responding. Not only that, an emergency shut-off doesn't usually flicker back on after a few seconds, it's usually dead.
@Drain Todger is finding out how much of a shitshow the vessel was, so there’s a good chance of multiple things being wrong or broken. Normally a 1 minute outage would not result in disaster.
I'll wait for his thoughts. His sperging about COVID was so on-point that whatever he says about this vessel will be true.
 
Not only that, an emergency shut-off doesn't usually flicker back on after a few seconds, it's usually dead.
That’s actually how medium and high voltage power systems work. It’s called a “re-closer”, it tries again 3 or 4 times. Not that that’s exactly what a boat would use.

Have you ever had the main breaker trip in your home? You turn off a few circuits and reset it and once you start turning on circuits it trips again? Similar thing.

But yes I await to hear from the boat expert.
 
I’m thinking it’s unlikely to be generator (engine) failure, as 3 or 4 should be running during this stage of navigation, and even if one shuts off, it should be handled seamlessly. So more plausible that a serious electrical or control problem happened causing all of them to trip off, or breakers open. As we did see two restarts.

Imagining the bridge computer rebooting, with that windows NT startup chime.
A ship of this size will have a backup bridge and deck built into other rooms like engine control or an outer wing or bridge. Emergency shutoffs and so on that can be run from various rooms on the ship. The entire bridge could be on fire and destroyed and you could still operate the ship from the lower control room where there is an entire backup panel in case the bridge goes down in some emergency or disaster. These can be run off of battery banks or separate generators in case the main power supply is compromised.

They are like this so that if the bridge is taken out in a collision or fire or freak wave, even with something like a helicopter or plane crashing into the bridge, a crane accident and so on, you have a chance of still being able to command the vessel safely from a position below that is in a separate area of the ship. The idea comes from military ships but it is now built into boats and yachts in addition to larger commercial ships. The engine control room in this ship had to have a redundant propulsion control and monitoring system in it somewhere.

But if you are already pushing forward at full speed then you will smash into stuff. The super yacht 'Go' owned by the guy who invented the Capri Sun juice drinks drove full speed into a pier and smashed up the docks and caused all sorts of damage. The controls were touch panels and the computers allegedly froze in the full speed forward position and the yacht just shot into the docks without them being able to regain control in time. They had power just not control over propulsion (allegedly at least according to the captain).

So when they lost propulsion control they aimed the yacht at the docks on purpose to avoid hitting other boats or yachts that might contain people. They didn't aim their yacht at a bridge that might collapse. They knew that if they hit anther boat it might kill someone on board. But plowing the yacht into the shore would be an expensive mistake but not cause deaths. No idea what was going on in the minds of the street shitters running this ship in Baltimore.
Tinfoil hat shit aside, what one component can kill the power to an entire ship? It's safe to assume that the gennies are running in pairs, or pairs of pairs, right?
The timing for them to run their ship at 5-6knots in tight conditions right towards a bridge then lose power at the perfect moment to smash into the supports is convenient for them. Either that or we are dealing with the worst crew in the entire shipping industry. The incompetence here is so gross, bewildering, and utterly insane, that sabotage is more rational than simply it being an accident.
How does a ship lose power and all the engines die, for a brief period before firing back up again? Surely there's lots of systems running to prevent that?
Engines seemed to be pushing the ship at at least 5knots if not more. There have been instances of ships losing their bridge controls and the propulsion remaining engaged. So the ships cut power and restart their computers and hope to regain control before they are on a collision course with something else. If this happens in the open ocean you will probably not collide with anything. But in a port or dock or crowded mooring area you might drift or drive forward causing collisions. Or drive right into a bridge.
 
@Drain Todger is supposedly a diesel mechanic on ships and is currently going over reports on how it was a piece of shit.
There doesn't appear to be anything technically wrong with the vessel type. Hyundai builds good ships, MAN B&W mains are fantastic, and I haven't heard much of anything, good or bad, about Hyundai's gensets. Rather, it appears that Synergy Marine Group has a culture of lax preventative maintenance and have allowed the vessel to fall into disrepair. There are lots of ways that can happen. One is from having a list of preventative maintenance items that isn't comprehensive and doesn't cover all of the equipment. Another way is by cost-cutting, for instance, by not budgeting enough for regular shipyard visits and inspections, or by ordering spare parts made out of Chinesium that will shit themselves while the vessel is underway. Lastly, there is simple incompetence and neglect, like personnel pencil-whipping inspections without actually doing them, or being so inadequately trained that they don't even know what they're looking at (i.e. they cannot identify signs of damaged equipment even when they're staring directly at it).

The most damning detail I've seen so far is this:


The 9-year-old container ship had passed previous inspections during its time at sea, but during one such inspection in June at the Port of San Antonio in Chile, officials discovered a deficiency with its "propulsion and auxiliary machinery (gauges, thermometers, etc)," according to the Tokyo MOU, an intergovernmental maritime authority in the Asia-Pacific region.

Deficiencies in the machinery were previously identified, and it isn't clear whether or not corrective action was taken.
 
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