Featured on Mar 26, 2024 by Null: The Francis Scott Key bridge, an important part of the Baltimore-D.C. I-695 Beltway, has collapsed after being impacted by a Singaporean cargo ship manned by a crew of 22 Indians.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
it was @PaladinBoo according to her step father newer ships have underpowered engines and the “greener” fuel is fucky wucky with the older engines.Somebody in the thread mentioned somewhere Joe Biden mandated new "eco-friendly" engines be put on cargo ships that enter the USA's territorial waters. The problem is these engines don't put out enough power and the ships electrical are not optimized for its short circuits happen "all the time", but this is the first time it's happened at possibly the worst moment.
Anyone who actually knows anything about this care to opine?
51 pages and only one "poop deck" joke, I am genuinely shocked.
>"Oh yeah I just HAPPENED to be recording the bridge at 1am as it happened."
That Ukrainian served on the ship in 2015-2016ish and that information was explicitly present on the site the whole time. However because you could leave comments and people are leaving shitposts they have since hidden his file. His last voyage finished in mid February.Apparently the captain was a Ukrainian but never underestimate a pajeets ability to fuck up. Especially a ship of over 20 of them.
That Ukrainian served on the ship in 2015-2016ish and that information was explicitly present on the site the whole time. However because you could leave comments and people are leaving shitposts they have since hidden his file. His last voyage finished in mid February.
It’s not as simple as engines running or not. Generators that size are more like power stations. They can stop producing electricity in a number of ways, and are designed to do so very quickly to avoid causing explosion and fire in the event of an overload. (The engine itself keeps running).How does a ship lose power and all the engines die, for a brief period before firing back up again? Surely there's lots of systems running to prevent that?
The ship declared a Mayday, and the Bridge workers closed the bridge immediately.So far I've been hearing a lot about the ship somehow warned the road crew, although not by who or how, but so far all I can find is that someone on the crew noticed it first.
View attachment 5851997
Yeah i now know that, it's just i didn't know that info when i wrote that postThey had just departed it. The tugs take it away from the berth and get it into the shipping channel. it lost power a few minutes later
They’ll be black, and people here will complain when they get medals.The ship declared a Mayday, and the Bridge workers closed the bridge immediately.
Whoever was stuck working the literal graveyard shift at 1:30 in the fucking morning deserve fucking medals, because apparently they didn't even wait for orders. They heard the mayday over the radio and turned the traffic signals on the bridge to Red.
This would have been a much greater disaster if they had not done that.
Every industrial facility be it a bridge, a steel smelter, an assembly line or even a fucking gas station, has a very big red button that when pressed stops everything. Whenever presses that button is immediately on the spot and if they don't have a damn good reason they are fired.
Someone pressed the red button within seconds of the Mayday going out. I would love to know who they are.
I'm sure there are redundancy systems that keep running in case one breaks or stops responding. Not only that, an emergency shut-off doesn't usually flicker back on after a few seconds, it's usually dead.It’s not as simple as engines running or not. Generators that size are more like power stations. They can stop producing electricity in a number of ways, and are designed to do so very quickly to avoid causing explosion and fire in the event of an overload. (The engine itself keeps running).
Why would all trip off line at once? Could be some big load like a main hydraulic set developing a short, or something in the distribution system
I'll wait for his thoughts. His sperging about COVID was so on-point that whatever he says about this vessel will be true.@Drain Todger is finding out how much of a shitshow the vessel was, so there’s a good chance of multiple things being wrong or broken. Normally a 1 minute outage would not result in disaster.
That’s actually how medium and high voltage power systems work. It’s called a “re-closer”, it tries again 3 or 4 times. Not that that’s exactly what a boat would use.Not only that, an emergency shut-off doesn't usually flicker back on after a few seconds, it's usually dead.
A ship of this size will have a backup bridge and deck built into other rooms like engine control or an outer wing or bridge. Emergency shutoffs and so on that can be run from various rooms on the ship. The entire bridge could be on fire and destroyed and you could still operate the ship from the lower control room where there is an entire backup panel in case the bridge goes down in some emergency or disaster. These can be run off of battery banks or separate generators in case the main power supply is compromised.I’m thinking it’s unlikely to be generator (engine) failure, as 3 or 4 should be running during this stage of navigation, and even if one shuts off, it should be handled seamlessly. So more plausible that a serious electrical or control problem happened causing all of them to trip off, or breakers open. As we did see two restarts.
Imagining the bridge computer rebooting, with that windows NT startup chime.
The timing for them to run their ship at 5-6knots in tight conditions right towards a bridge then lose power at the perfect moment to smash into the supports is convenient for them. Either that or we are dealing with the worst crew in the entire shipping industry. The incompetence here is so gross, bewildering, and utterly insane, that sabotage is more rational than simply it being an accident.Tinfoil hat shit aside, what one component can kill the power to an entire ship? It's safe to assume that the gennies are running in pairs, or pairs of pairs, right?
Engines seemed to be pushing the ship at at least 5knots if not more. There have been instances of ships losing their bridge controls and the propulsion remaining engaged. So the ships cut power and restart their computers and hope to regain control before they are on a collision course with something else. If this happens in the open ocean you will probably not collide with anything. But in a port or dock or crowded mooring area you might drift or drive forward causing collisions. Or drive right into a bridge.How does a ship lose power and all the engines die, for a brief period before firing back up again? Surely there's lots of systems running to prevent that?
There doesn't appear to be anything technically wrong with the vessel type. Hyundai builds good ships, MAN B&W mains are fantastic, and I haven't heard much of anything, good or bad, about Hyundai's gensets. Rather, it appears that Synergy Marine Group has a culture of lax preventative maintenance and have allowed the vessel to fall into disrepair. There are lots of ways that can happen. One is from having a list of preventative maintenance items that isn't comprehensive and doesn't cover all of the equipment. Another way is by cost-cutting, for instance, by not budgeting enough for regular shipyard visits and inspections, or by ordering spare parts made out of Chinesium that will shit themselves while the vessel is underway. Lastly, there is simple incompetence and neglect, like personnel pencil-whipping inspections without actually doing them, or being so inadequately trained that they don't even know what they're looking at (i.e. they cannot identify signs of damaged equipment even when they're staring directly at it).@Drain Todger is supposedly a diesel mechanic on ships and is currently going over reports on how it was a piece of shit.
The 9-year-old container ship had passed previous inspections during its time at sea, but during one such inspection in June at the Port of San Antonio in Chile, officials discovered a deficiency with its "propulsion and auxiliary machinery (gauges, thermometers, etc)," according to the Tokyo MOU, an intergovernmental maritime authority in the Asia-Pacific region.