Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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How long has Cobes likely been an alcoholic for?
This is an interesting question. For as long as Cobes as been on Youtube he's been a binge drinker. Even back in the way old days in the OG apartment he would drink to the point of being hungover. The thing of it was he didn't have enough money to be a an alcoholic back then. He'd drink when he had the money to drink but most of the time was broke. I think it was around 2018-2019 when he started to get paypigs regularly donating booze and sending him cash for booze that he began drinking nearly daily and by the time he moved into his new apartment in 2020 he was a full on drunk.
Thing is alcoholism is less about how much or how frequently you drink and more about why you drink/ of course alcoholics drink all the time and become drunks and let it get out of control but I’d argue from the beginning he was an “alcoholic” in a sense that he was drinking “for the wrong reasons”. He drank to cope with difficult emotions, he drank to improve his mood when he felt down, he enjoyed drinking alone. Hell the guy doesn’t even like alcohol or drinking and never has, he’s always cornering on liking when he tastes liquor, it’s just been a means to an end which is getting drunk. Regardless of if it’s every day , every week, or once a month if you’re only reason for drinking is to get drunk because getting drunk improves your mood, helps you deal with negative emotions, numbs pain, gives you confidence etc then you’re an alcoholic in a psychological sense

Theres like alcoholism in a sense of literally having a physical dependency to alcohol and there’s alcoholism in the sense of psychology. Some people are alcoholics before they ever drank, some people are alcoholics and have never and will never drink. It’s like they’re sitting on a case of dynamite and alcohol is the flame that ends up lighting the fuse. Recovered alcoholics are the same way, the fuse went out but they’re still sitting on the dynamite if they drink again it’ll light the fuse.

So Josh has always been an alcoholic it’s hardwired in his mind how he’d treat alcohol. When did he start being an alcoholic? I’d say high school when he was caught stealing liquor from his parents liquor cabinet and sneaking drinks from their bottles.
 
he's not a stalker
This one's debatable imo. He openly kept up with his high school crush's personal life via social media for over a decade, even making new accounts to contact her once he got blocked. Then there's the whole ellen situation, the mall kiosk girl that sold him earrings that he kept tabs on, and the coworker who's Facebook profile picture he used as his desktop bg. It might not be stalking in a traditional sense, but he's definitely stalker adjacent.
 
Thrown off property I own? I'd be more concerned about the mail but I do have a working system right now and don't really need him to do anything.

Does he get disability or HUD income? Has he ever had any sex pest or 'weirdo' controversy?
I doubt you'd need to worry about squatters' rights, as I doubt Cobes will survive another decade, but you can het huge tracts of nothingness for about $1k/acre.

A city plot is about $50k for an 8k sqft lot.

Having someone in Cheyenne is a better hedge than Casper. At least there's some forms of work there.
 
He has admitted to rubbing "hog" on girls at the bar when walking by them. Clint literally had to lie to him about his one high school crush being dead because he was walking by her house and trying to pet her dog. He is the definition of sex pest.
He also tells the story about how he got kicked out of Frosty's like "Yea that bartender was being an asshole over my troles but he doesn't know that I know the owner, that short little fuck is lucky I didn't get up and beat his ass" when in reality he say there whining and crying as the bartender bitched him until kicking him out. We've also seen Josh at bars and other social situations, he's anti-social as fuck and barley moves. What likely happened is that women have probably bumped into his dick while it was crowded and that's it. Also using the excuse to pet a dog to see his crush isn't crazy behavior from a teenager, let alone a retarded one with 0 social skills.
 
This one's debatable imo. He openly kept up with his high school crush's personal life via social media for over a decade, even making new accounts to contact her once he got blocked. Then there's the whole ellen situation, the mall kiosk girl that sold him earrings that he kept tabs on, and the coworker who's Facebook profile picture he used as his desktop bg. It might not be stalking in a traditional sense, but he's definitely stalker adjacent.
If he’s guilty of anything it’s cyberstalking and being an obsessive creep. Which is not a good thing to do but that “shitlist” is trying to paint it as if he’s sneaking to their window at night or following them around after dark. It’s also incredibly goofy for these people to criticize Cobes for being a stalker when they hunt down and obsessively comb through these women’s online presence for dirt on Cobes, often harassing them with messages
 
He also tells the story about how he got kicked out of Frosty's like "Yea that bartender was being an asshole over my troles but he doesn't know that I know the owner, that short little fuck is lucky I didn't get up and beat his ass" when in reality he say there whining and crying as the bartender bitched him until kicking him out. We've also seen Josh at bars and other social situations, he's anti-social as fuck and barley moves. What likely happened is that women have probably bumped into his dick while it was crowded and that's it. Also using the excuse to pet a dog to see his crush isn't crazy behavior from a teenager, let alone a retarded one with 0 social skills.
The A-logs perpetrate what I am gonna call the
- Cobra Story Fallacy: Any story Josh Saunders tells is disregarded as a fabrication except for when it paints him in a negative light, where it will then be accepted at face value without any doubt of its veracity
 
He also tells the story about how he got kicked out of Frosty's like "Yea that bartender was being an asshole over my troles but he doesn't know that I know the owner, that short little fuck is lucky I didn't get up and beat his ass" when in reality he say there whining and crying as the bartender bitched him until kicking him out. We've also seen Josh at bars and other social situations, he's anti-social as fuck and barley moves. What likely happened is that women have probably bumped into his dick while it was crowded and that's it. Also using the excuse to pet a dog to see his crush isn't crazy behavior from a teenager, let alone a retarded one with 0 social skills.
There is absolutely no way in hell someone as utterly clumsy and uncoordinated as Josh is out at the cowboy bars rubbing his dick on women and not being discovered and beaten to a pulp. With that being said the fact Cobes was thinking of this in a fantasy way is pretty sicko behavior. It's pretty sex pesty for sure.
but I’d argue from the beginning he was an “alcoholic” in a sense that he was drinking “for the wrong reasons”. He drank to cope with difficult emotions, he drank to improve his mood when he felt down, he enjoyed drinking alone.
Disagree. Cobes back in the day drank because he liked to get fucked up. It really only started to become a coping mechanism years later when the trolls and his life started to get really bad.
 
Can someone mark on this map where he and Clint currently live and what buildings he needs access to? Just place a bunch of bright pink Xs on shit and label them.

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I'm like 15% committed to this. I really despise faggots who try to torture some harmless weirdo. They should be put in CIA prisons.

If his father simply can't afford a place for him on his own, but is willing to help with finances and maybe some handiwork, then I can easily set this up remotely.
 
Can someone mark on this map where he and Clint currently live and what buildings he needs access to? Just place a bunch of bright pink Xs on shit and label them.

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I'm like 15% committed to this. I really despise faggots who try to torture some harmless weirdo. They should be put in CIA prisons.

If his father simply can't afford a place for him on his own, but is willing to help with finances and maybe some handiwork, then I can easily set this up remotely.


He does not live with Clint. But Cobes is at this approximate pink X right now. He used to live closer to downtown, which was better for him because he got out more. The place he's at now isn't as hoppin.

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He gets monthly SSI/disability. I mean he's weird but he's pretty adamant about not being a sex pest. I think the biggest problem would be his girlfriend, I don't know how exactly she would fuck with any plans but there would be an attempt one way or another.
NAL is incredibly foul mouthed and she throws tantrums and says horrible things when she's drunk and upset, but I don't think she actually wants to harm Josh. Even with all the fighting during this last trip, what did she do? She cleaned his apartment, did his laundry, and somehow facilitated getting his toilet fixed.
 
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He also tells the story about how he got kicked out of Frosty's like "Yea that bartender was being an asshole over my troles but he doesn't know that I know the owner, that short little fuck is lucky I didn't get up and beat his ass" when in reality he say there whining and crying as the bartender bitched him until kicking him out. We've also seen Josh at bars and other social situations, he's anti-social as fuck and barley moves. What likely happened is that women have probably bumped into his dick while it was crowded and that's it. Also using the excuse to pet a dog to see his crush isn't crazy behavior from a teenager, let alone a retarded one with 0 social skills.
You must be new to cobra. He has stalked/creeped on every girl he has some contact with. Some more examples, the kitana queen - hangs out with her old parents, bitsized has a whole video about this saga. The waitress at the dishpit, wherein the cook had to call him out and he eventually lost that job because he was creepin. The Alicia Rhodie thing, the girl with the dog, that was the final straw when Clint finally put his foot down. Being a retard or socially awkward doesn't excuse his sex pest behavior. There is more than enough evidence of his "horned up retard" behavior., example : he jerks it everytime he has a chance to chat with a girl.(gothie, spooky girl, NAL etc. ). In fact retards are well known for having issues like this, its why you ideally keep them away from normal people. He has admitted to being rejected by every girl he's liked since 4th grade, why do you think that is ?
 
This one's debatable imo. He openly kept up with his high school crush's personal life via social media for over a decade, even making new accounts to contact her once he got blocked. Then there's the whole ellen situation, the mall kiosk girl that sold him earrings that he kept tabs on, and the coworker who's Facebook profile picture he used as his desktop bg. It might not be stalking in a traditional sense, but he's definitely stalker adjacent.
Yea that's fair to point out. I'm not gunna guard for him that much, as that shit is definitely creepy, but it's within the realm of being a weird pain in the ass/nuisance rather than "somebody should call the cops" territory.

The A-logs perpetrate what I am gonna call the
- Cobra Story Fallacy: Any story Josh Saunders tells is disregarded as a fabrication except for when it paints him in a negative light, where it will then be accepted at face value without any doubt of its veracity
100%. Josh is a retard whose kinda just a piece of shit, mainly out of laziness/immaturity. I don't think him being a sperg constitutes him being malicious, even if he ends up looking that way after the fact while trying to look cool.

@Steve Harwell's ghost I've been watching him for several years, but if you think he's a sex pest, that's fine. He's obviously a coomer retard, but imo he isn't a danger to women, he's just really fucking annoying. That being said if you know women his behavior is not the craziest thing to happen to 99% of women, which while I'm not saying is good or should be accepted, I am going to point out is better than Cyraxx threatening women who turn him down, or when chris would draw pictures of him having sex with a woman and sending it to them because "something bad could have happened".
 
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