Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

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xXx: State of the Union said:
It doesn't matter. They are aware that Todd could have said "no" to this, but he didn't, so it's his fault.
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Todd doesn't own Bethesda, or the rights to the IPs. He isn't even the Director for Bethesda Softworks. He is just a Game Dev Lead. It would be like getting mad at Shigeru Miyamoto for the terrible 80s Super Mario Movie.
 
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AnaV said:
I have not watched the show, (and probably never will), but seeing screenshots the whole thing looks very low budget production wise.
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Some scenes look like they cost millions of dollars. Other scenes look like they were paid for in grocery store coupons. Some of the effects look like they took months to make for a mere ten second shot. Others seem like they did one take or pass on the software and didn't even bother to properly edit or mesh everything. There is zero consistency in the production. They also use the cheap cameras that Amazon has for its studios. Unlike major movies or companies like HBO or the BBC where they shoot on film or with high end cameras.

But the writing is incredibly consistent. In that every single line of dialog is utterly abysmal and uninspired. Speech 0 Charisma 1.
 
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Smashed & Slamed said:
Todd doesn't own Bethesda, or the rights to the IPs. He isn't even the Director for Bethesda Softworks. He is just a Game Dev Lead.
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I mean...he was an executive producer on this show. And I believe that in interviews it was stated he was the guy they had to go to to get approval for story ideas and such. I believe they even stated he requested they do not do certain things that he thought they might want to do in a future game.

I think getting mad at him is still silly, but that is why people are mad. He *could* have said no to a lot of things they hate, and he didn't. *shrug*
 
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Mary the Goldsmith said:
Well I am retarded, but in my defense Fallout 4 pretty much implies this there is a kid on a fridge that has apparently been locked there since the great war meaning he has been in there 200 years and not only didn't starve he also didn't age, also his ghoul parents are okay and still living in their old house.
Honestly my headcanon there is that there was a miscomunication with the player, the kid really means the Quincy massacre and the player assumed he meant the Great War, yes there is dialogue that contradicts my headcanon but I chose to ignore it, as its less retarded.
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There is a mod that completely removes that quest and fixes the pre war jet lore issue as well. That's how you fix your own lore, what Bethesda thinks matters little when the games they create are such garbage.
AnaV said:
I'm feeling very vindicated as of late, I had heard about the show and when asked my thoughts by friends and family, I expressed that this show was going to be garbage and was told the same thing by each of them, "give it a chance". I have not watched the show, (and probably never will), but seeing screenshots the whole thing looks very low budget production wise. The non-critic reviews aren't very glowing either, all these Amazon adaptions are always trash.

As to the ghoul thing people are discussing, here's what I remember. In the Interplay fallout titles ghouls required clean water and food like the rest of humanity. Their affinity for surviving radiation was down to that, surviving. They were not revitalized or able to feed off of radiation. Fallout 3 blurred the lines quite a bit with the whole radiation turning them feral topic which is one of the few things Obsidian ran with in New Vegas that was a Bethesda influenced concept. Fallout 4 retcons the whole ghouls need no sustenance but radiation thing into existence.
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There was a quest in Fallout 2 where the ghouls were able to operate a nuclear power plant because they were immune to radiation. That was actually a vital point in a political quest line, one which is required for the main quest outside of exploits.
They need to eat and drink but they have a mutation that causes them to live longer(not forever) and make them immune to radiation. This comes at a cost of making them ugly and leading to many going feral after a period of time(it seems to be based off psyche of the individual, ie if a person already had some sort of behavioral, mental or genetic problems they would likely go feral, where as those with strong fortitudes and psyche could survive potentially hundreds of years uneffected. That's why you see the ferals mostly in metros and the like, as spending any extended amount of time living in a dark place like this takes a mental toll on you).

TheAmbiguousLurker said:
>Wearing full power armour
>Is shown to be able to destroy a building by just kicking a stone at it.
>Has enough strength to toss a heavy object miles away.
>Gets mauled to death by a fucking bear that is easily taken dwon by two gunshots.
>Doesn't even bruise a ghoul with a full-on punch.
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If we're being fair here, this is Bethesda power armor, one that is made out of cardboard. I still remember when NMA used to joke about Fallout 3 power armor being so useless that they should have taken the hillbilly hides from Point Lookout DLC and made an armor out of that, since they turned these fuckers into bullet sponges. Fallout 4 isn't much better, while the damage protection is better, the armor is actually as durable as cardboard and will break apart right in front of your eyes after enough damage is done to it, forcing you to take apart random shit you find laying around to repair this irreplaceable piece of pre war tech repeatedly, possibly hundreds of times.
I don't need to tell you that this show is based off Bethesda's Fallouts.
 
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So wait, what is the issue with Shady Sands?

As someone who is not going to watch this show, I keep hearing that Vault Tec nuked it. Like...Vault Tec still exists as an entity/corporation? Or was it an automated thing?

I guess what I'm asking is, did they rip off Lonesome Road a bit?
 
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Please redeem, sirs
 
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doodoocaca said:
3, 4, and beyond is little more what happens when a hack buys an IP and is dazzled by the visuals and the superficiality but has no capacity to understand the depth of it.
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Never forget.

30+GameOvers said:
No, even the isolated vault with only the best pure genes looks like this now
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I'm glad Hollywood is dead. Once AI generated shit takes over we can purge those hideous turds from culture and finally have something decent again. Tick-tock, t minus 5.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
As someone who is not going to watch this show, I keep hearing that Vault Tec nuked it. Like...Vault Tec still exists as an entity/corporation? Or was it an automated thing?
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Yes. Its basically Umbrella from the Resident Evil movies still doing comically evil stuff even when most everyone is dead and the world is a wasteland.
 
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So I have finished the show and I'd like to share my thoughts. I think this is a well done show that authentically replicates the atmosphere and look of the games. The actors are good in their roles, with dialogue that feels natural. There were a few neat easter eggs to the Fallout series and its inspirations, such as a code being 101097 (the day Fallout was released), a movie poster for 'A Man and His Dog', and a rant about the Brotherhood being sent on missions to find toaster ovens is a brilliant nod to the Wasteland series.

The plot is fine for the show, although some of the narrative has lore implications that irritate me. The main story is about the Vault Girl, Lucy, going out of her Vault to find her father who was kidnapped. The Brotherhood character, Maximus, is searching after a member of the Enclave which the Ghoul is also looking for as a bounty.

The main issues I have center around how the narrative treats Vault-Tec:
The show pushes the corporate greed angle with Vault-Tec. Points are made about how Vault-Tec is selling the end of the world and is meddling in affairs that would reduce global tensions. They buy-out research firms on cold fusion to continue the need for energy resources. One character brings up that Vault-Tec effectively owns the US as the war with China has bankrupt the government. Vault-Tec presents their Vaults to the other major Fallout corporations (West-Tek, Repconn, RoboCo, Big MT, etc) as a means to remake the world in their image. There is even a suggestion that they start the Great War to ensure that their experiments can be put into action.

Now, despite that suggestion, the character who raises that point during that corporate presentation looks up to a shadowy figure which I believe is a reference to the Enclave. I do not believe that it is a definitive statement that Vault-Tec started the Great War.

The corporate greed angle is something worth exploring but I do not want the show to say that Vault-Tec is behind everything.

Regarding the NCR, Shady Sands, and New Vegas:
A city referred to as Shady Sands is nuked in the show. Lucy's father, Hank, nuked the city when his wife left their Vault with their children to live on the surface. Hank turns out to be a Vault-Tec executive frozen in cryo when the bombs fell. Vaults 31, 32, and 33 co-exist with Vault 31 unfreezing an executive to act as Overseer for either of the other two Vaults. I assume that the two Vaults are eventually supposed to compete with each other as Vault-Tec pushes the Vault experiments as competition.

Despite Shady Sands being nuked, it is not the end of the NCR. A billboard states that Shady Sands was the NCR's first capital, implying that it had been moved at some point. There is also an issue that Shady Sands is way too close to the ruins of Los Angeles. I am personally considering that the Shady Sands which was destroyed is separate from the Shady Sands of the first two Fallout games. Perhaps more of a commercial district.

The NCR still exists as the final battle is between the Brotherhood versus the NCR over a cold fusion device which the Enclave character had (There are no reasons explained as to why the Enclave character had a cold fusion device or why he was giving it to the NCR. I expect that to be something revealed in a later season.). The Brotherhood claims possession of the cold fusion device, and I assume the consequences of that power will be explored in season 2.

The ending shows Hank traveling to what appears to be New Vegas. The ending credits shows a wrecked and ruined New Vegas. This does imply that season 2 will take place or have reference to New Vegas, meaning we will probably get a canon answer to who won the Second Battle of Hoover Dam.

The stand outs in the show have to be the Brotherhood of Steel. They are portrayed as the violent, dogmatic, uncaring assholes that we've come to know and love. Overall, I would give the show a watch.
 
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