Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Obviously because she is wailing, moaning, shitting and writhing like every other mere mortal who has to push a baby out of their vagina and that doesn't fit with her crunchy, orgasmic (ew), trascendal experience she wants to pretend it is.

Childbirth is well known as one of the worst pains a human can ever expirence, you are not "less of a mother" for opting for some damn pain relief!
I won’t comment on the “orgasmic” aspect of her goal delivery because it is self-evident lunacy.

But it strikes me as funny that she wants this peaceful childbirth experience but refuses to do anything that could reasonably help her achieve it.

PL but every time I have delivered a baby, I have been in a hospital room with an epidural in my back. With the lights low, my loved ones by my side, and the absence of pain afforded to me by modern medicine, my deliveries have all been very calm and positive experiences for me AND my babies. I credit those optimal circumstances for optimal bonding and postpartum recovery. I am grateful to the ends of the earth that pain relief in labor exists and is available because it is vastly more effective than Etsy art prints and crystals and salt lamps at creating non-traumatic childbirth experiences. Get the epidural, future mama kiwis!

I hope Atlas is staying somewhere else during the labor. Poor kid should not be forced to listen to his mama moaning in pain (or ecstasy, if she does accomplish that mid-delivery coom she seems to want to badly).
 
Woo birth women are fucking weird. I get wanting it to be as peaceful as possible, and lying about how you can make it magical and euphoric could help alleviate a lot of anxiety. But the reality?
It's really crazy, most births I've attended in any capacity involved vomiting, shitting, peeing, and pushing out a baby at the same time. Oh and don't forget the tearing! I respect that birth is special, and in the sense that someone is "bringing life into the world" it can seem beautiful, but so much of it is not beautiful, and that's okay. I don't know why these people can't acknowledge how gross, painful, and scary birth is while they appreciate the nicer aspects. Instead all of it has to be made out to be sacred and spiritual and orgasmic and healing. 100% cognitive dissonance.
 
It's really crazy, most births I've attended in any capacity involved vomiting, shitting, peeing, and pushing out a baby at the same time. Oh and don't forget the tearing! I respect that birth is special, and in the sense that someone is "bringing life into the world" it can seem beautiful, but so much of it is not beautiful, and that's okay. I don't know why these people can't acknowledge how gross, painful, and scary birth is while they appreciate the nicer aspects. Instead all of it has to be made out to be sacred and spiritual and orgasmic and healing. 100% cognitive dissonance
That's how I feel too.
The spiritually amazing part is the teeny tiny brand new life that just emerged from your body!
It's not the shitting, screaming, I can't do this anymore experience of labour! That's the bit you get through to get the prize at the end!
Give me drugs if I can have them! I'll deal if I can't but why would you do that sober on purpose?!
 
For these women (of which there are many) the pregnancy and the newborn are all that matters. They desperately need the attention and the high of the birth

Once the baby gets a bit bigger they need to be pregnant again. Even if their husband doesn’t want more kids

Used to read mothering . com back in the day and it was bat shit. Including a woman whose first baby died from insufficient breast milk. And this woman was still kvetching about the fact that her pediatrician told her she needed to use formula the second time. Several “free births” at 41-42 weeks that resulted in dead babies

And possibly the most frustrating story , a woman who was attempting a VBAC after 4 c sections - she had a uterine rupture at home and was angry at the hospital for not saving her baby when she decided to finally avail herself of their services
 
And possibly the most frustrating story , a woman who was attempting a VBAC after 4 c sections - she had a uterine rupture at home and was angry at the hospital for not saving her baby when she decided to finally avail herself of their services
That sounds like the future of fundie nutjob Karissa Collins.

That's some horrific shit.
 
Please don't barrage me with retarded stories of women having orgasms during birth because I'm sure it's possible, sure that people have reasonable sounding reasons for promoting it, don't care, and won't read them. Now that we've gotten the "don't be a redditor" disclaimer out of the way: I am 100% convinced that "orgasmic birth" is some bullshit invented by a birth fetishist
 
Please don't barrage me with retarded stories of women having orgasms during birth because I'm sure it's possible, sure that people have reasonable sounding reasons for promoting it, don't care, and won't read them. Now that we've gotten the "don't be a redditor" disclaimer out of the way: I am 100% convinced that "orgasmic birth" is some bullshit invented by a birth fetishist
The only way I could see it happening would be if the woman's nervous system had some wires crossed in a very particular way.
 
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Please don't barrage me with retarded stories of women having orgasms during birth because I'm sure it's possible, sure that people have reasonable sounding reasons for promoting it, don't care, and won't read them. Now that we've gotten the "don't be a redditor" disclaimer out of the way: I am 100% convinced that "orgasmic birth" is some bullshit invented by a birth fetishist
I’m sure having an orgasm during birth is possible. But Jesus. That’s your baby, what? Why would you want that?

Also definitely a birth fetishist thing. Stop being gross. Don’t you shit yourself when you have a baby? Stop it.
 
It's really crazy, most births I've attended in any capacity involved vomiting, shitting, peeing, and pushing out a baby at the same time. Oh and don't forget the tearing! I respect that birth is special, and in the sense that someone is "bringing life into the world" it can seem beautiful, but so much of it is not beautiful, and that's okay. I don't know why these people can't acknowledge how gross, painful, and scary birth is while they appreciate the nicer aspects. Instead all of it has to be made out to be sacred and spiritual and orgasmic and healing. 100% cognitive dissonance.
I'll never forget the breeder of pedigreed show cats who said, "There is nothing beautiful about birth."
 
I'll never forget the breeder of pedigreed show cats who said, "There is nothing beautiful about birth."
I’ve had to help too many cows/ sheep/ dogs in trouble over the years to think birth is beautiful. It’s gooey, smelly and gross.
No matter how it goes with Globyns latest womb expelling we’ll never get the honest story. Of course she’s going to ‘gram it as the most wooest of woo births, until the next one.
 
Having had two births, one unmedicated but absolutely not by choice, I can tell you that there is zero, negative, NO possibility of orgasmic childbirth and I don’t care what anybody says. Those parts are out of commission.

I’m also certain that idea originated from a male's head. (Pick which one). I was a cocktail waitress during one of my pregnancies and was displeased to discover how many men had pregnancy fetishes.

The fact that so many woo mamas jump on this idea is sadly hilarious for the male species. :story:
 
I’ve had to help too many cows/ sheep/ dogs in trouble over the years to think birth is beautiful. It’s gooey, smelly and gross.
No matter how it goes with Globyns latest womb expelling we’ll never get the honest story. Of course she’s going to ‘gram it as the most wooest of woo births, until the next one.
I follow several feral-cat live webcams, where they trap pregnant females, have them deliver and raise their kittens on YouTube, and then speuter and rehome the bunch. (Some feral mamas cannot live indoors, and are returned to the colony, uterus-free.) Most of the time, everything's OK, but deformed kittens and interventions up to and including a c-section are not uncommon.
 
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