David Steel / LazerPig / Ricewynd / Malquistion - Pathological Liar, Reddit Historian, Femboy Thirster, and Vore Connoisseur

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

What's wrong with ZoomerHistorian?

Some of his viewpoints concerning WW2 such as who started the war is questionable to say the least.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Ain't that the truth?

Its a worse poison than Wehraboos ever were, now any discussion of Germany or their equipment from World War 2 is tainted with a incessant need by retards to talk about how "Oh well actually Germany was ran by utter retards who couldn't fight a war and the idea their tech was advanced is just Nazi Slop". And that's ignoring the fact "Wehraboo" has just become another term thrown around to describe someone that says a opinion you don't like, hell there's a entire sub-reddit dedicate to that.

 

[Irredemable Retardation]

What's wrong with ZoomerHistorian?

Basic bitch WW2 revisionist that shills the idea nazis were wholesome wheat fields people that did not have nothing against slavs and other races. He is so boring and his points are so cliche among this people that making a video debunking them would be simply being MATI in an audiovisual form.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Basic bitch WW2 revisionist that shills the idea nazis were wholesome wheat fields people that did not have nothing against slavs and other races. He is so boring and his points are so cliche among this people that making a video debunking them would be simply being MATI in an audiovisual form.

Oh gosh. So /pol/ talking points, but as actual person. LMAO.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The only flaw that I would really call a deal-breaker is having a metal handguard that inevitably would get very hot during a proper fight. Otherwise, it does just suffer from all the typical late WW2 problems of German gear.

Well they also had that lead block headspacing that was essentially designed to fail, and the fcg assembly was very complex, and the actual stampings themselves were also very complex, more so than they needed to be.

But you aren't incorrect, that's all just late war Germans being late war Germans, and all of those problems are effectively teething issues in the grand scheme of things.

hard to go on a "BARELY CONTAINING MY RAGE, BUT ALSO BEING INCREDIBLY SMUG ABOUT WHY THE STG-44 WAS AWFUL AND WEHRABOOS ARE NAZIS!!!", might as well just cut out the middle man and make a video about ZoomerHistorian.

Because Swine is perpetually stuck twenty years in the past and thinks that everyone and their mother still subscribes to the aughts History Channel version of WWII where the Germans had the greatest everything and the Wunderwaffen were actually war winners but dumb ol' Hitler held them back and German scientists and technology is the basis of all modern military equipment and much of society. When he says "Wheraboo" he means the classical Wheraboo, a creature that is now in all practical terms extinct in the digital and academic landscape. Swine fails to realize this however as he is the youtube historian version of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Its a worse poison than Wehraboos ever were, now any discussion of Germany or their equipment from World War 2 is tainted with a incessant need by retards to talk about how "Oh well actually Germany was ran by utter retards who couldn't fight a war and the idea their tech was advanced is just Nazi Slop". And that's ignoring the fact "Wehraboo" has just become another term thrown around to describe someone that says a opinion you don't like, hell there's a entire sub-reddit dedicate to that.

I think it was Knyght Errant who said it, and I'm paraphrasing here; "Our perception of history is like a pendulum, it will swing one way and then the other between opposing interpretations, what we need to make sure of is that we try our best to stop the pendulum before it swings too far the other direction and does an overcorrection, because that's just as bad."

I loved that guy's channel, it's a shame that it's dead.

EDIT: I'll go ahead and link the video since I found it.

Basic bitch WW2 revisionist that shills the idea nazis were wholesome wheat fields people that did not have nothing against slavs and other races. He is so boring and his points are so cliche among this people that making a video debunking them would be simply being MATI in an audiovisual form.

A strange case in which an extinct species evolves again in order to come back from extinction, and a classic case of the "overcorrection" f

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Basic bitch WW2 revisionist that shills the idea nazis were wholesome wheat fields people that did not have nothing against slavs and other races. He is so boring and his points are so cliche among this people that making a video debunking them would be simply being MATI in an audiovisual form.

Ten bucks says he reads books by David Irving.

Its a worse poison than Wehraboos ever were, now any discussion of Germany or their equipment from World War 2 is tainted with a incessant need by retards to talk about how "Oh well actually Germany was ran by utter retards who couldn't fight a war and the idea their tech was advanced is just Nazi Slop". And that's ignoring the fact "Wehraboo" has just become another term thrown around to describe someone that says a opinion you don't like, hell there's a entire sub-reddit dedicate to that.

Yup, even though there were some strong spots the Wehrmacht had they're overshadowed by faggots on the internet that'll demonize anything German.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

The STG-44 has it's flaws but I wouldn't exactly call it "comedically bad". Then again, LP and his merry gang will call anything not British/American garbage.

"Comedically bad"...he's never even held one. God, I hope he releases the video....it's going to be straight dogshit. I can see it already....."Now the Sten, that was a truly amazing gun"

It's pros far outweighed the cons.

I'd take an StG-44 into every theatre of WWII. It was that fucking good. Second choice would be an M1 carbine with 30rd mags.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I'd take an StG-44 into every theatre of WWII. It was that fucking good. Second choice would be an M1 carbine with 30rd mags.

I'd take the M1 Carbine over the STG any day of the week, it's way smaller and way lighter.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

"Comedically bad"...he's never even held one. God, I hope he releases the video....it's going to be straight dogshit. I can see it already....."Now the Sten, that was a truly amazing gun"

It's pros far outweighed the cons.

I'd take an StG-44 into every theatre of WWII. It was that fucking good. Second choice would be an M1 carbine with 30rd mags.

I'd take the M1 Carbine over the STG any day of the week, it's way smaller and way lighter.

I'm taking the Garand, thank you very much.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Lazy pig is the poor man's war visualize because war visualize at least goes through old German World War 2 manuals and reports to show how the Germans had no problem knocking out T34
the problem with Germany during World War 2 with the military had to do with the fact that you had a lot of Nazi party officials who had no experience commanding more than a brigade beginning getting command of entire branches of the military Herman growing is the reason Germany lost the air war but he was only given that position due to the fact that the German father of heavy bombers died in a plane crash in 1936 who actually was pushing and almost had finished a German 4 engine bomber which would have been ready in 1937 at the latest

also World War 2 history is done to death no one ever talks about the inner war period and how people like Adolf Hitler John Antonio primedia Rivera and Francisco Franco came to be to begin with but then they would have to acknowledge the fact that the communists are mainly to blame for the rise of Adolf Hitler but that would **** *** lazy pigs friend Anna Mikey

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Swine has apparently revealed that the AK video was actually about the STG-44 being bad and not the AK and has decided that it's "too much work" probably because he's rightfully afraid of upsetting the (much larger) gun autist community.

The S TG 44 it's one of the best made assault rifles in the world it was extremely innovative for its time and it would have been widely adopted when it was invented the Germans would have kicked the living **** out of the Soviets due to the superior small arms as well the fact is you don't longer need to ship 10 different rifle cartridges to the front line and you can focus on making 7_92x33mm.

Also the AK47 for what its intended purpose is is actually an extremely well made assault rifle it's completely idiot proof it's very hard to jam but it's not as accurate as something like an M16 point AR15 however that's only certain stamped models the models made with machined are a lot more accurate.
I'd also love to see him get into a YouTube argument with Ian mccullen

if I was gonna take any machine gun I would take the American 30mm predecessor to the heavy barrel 50 caliber even though they both existed the heavy barrel variant wouldn't be used for infantry vehicles and infantry support until after World War 2 due to the fact that we had so many of them made also the Soviets completely copied that machine gun

 

[MyBallsItch]

I'm taking the Garand, thank you very much.

And I'd take a MAB 38 or a 39M because of how sexy they are.

On the topic of Wehrabooism, one of Piggy's biggest telltale signs that he didn't know what the hell he was talking about was when he called the Panther Germany's worst tank in the war in his video on the T-34. Yeah, it was unreliable, but as far as I recall the Allies didn't really know it at the time, and the Germans were on the defensive right after it was fielded so it's not like they had to advance a lot. If a Sherman crewman saw a Panther, his first thought wasn't "oh, I'm in a much more reliable and well-rounded vehicle, that shitcan will break down in a few minutes, let's just wait for it", it was probably "oh, fuck, get me out of here". The Germans were not stupid, they didn't produce the Panther in large quantities because they bought into their own propaganda (not primarily, at least) but because it was good enough to do its job. It was cheaper than a Panzer IV, it had pretty good armor, it had a gun that no Allied tank was safe from and it had a fearsome reputation. Psychology, to the surprise of no one, plays a huge part in warfare, even the Art of War is mainly about deception and that is why so much propaganda was being churned out left and right by all parties involved. I made a 2-minute shitpost about this, see below.

Most weapons made during the war were fine, with the exception of some really shitty ones (like the Breda 30) and some exceptional ones (like the M1 Garand). The STG 44 was definitely not among the shitty ones, so I'm very interested to see the slanderous nonsense he will come up with.

 

[JJLiautaud]

It was cheaper than a Panzer IV

This fact still to this day blows my mind and I've never had it adequately explained to me why this is the case.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I own one, It just doesn't have enough stopping power to work as a full battle rifle, So that would be a strange choice of yours. Quite famously, It had trouble penetrating the thick winter coats of chinese soldiers during the korean war.

Thats a myth:

 

[Atypical Dog]

It's hilarious to think that the Hungarians with their 4 military factories (a small arms factory in Kiskunfélegyháza, a helicopter parts manufacturing plant in Gyula, a radar and electronic accessories plant in Kaposvár and the Rheinmetall plant in Zalaegerszeg, plus another one in the works near Szeged) will have a better domestically produced IFV in the form of the KF41 than the Brits, who are supposedly one of the leading nations of NATO. In fact, Hungary is above the 2% GDP margin that NATO sets as a baseline for cooperative defense, while the UK was far below that the last time I checked.

Lies. Military factories are completely interchangeable, Hearts of Iron 4 said so. And it's easy, just slap those 4 mils on mechanized at the start date, eat the ahead of time penalty to research the next tier, and then just pump it full of army XP to max reliability and speed. Then just encircle everybody.

What? It's gonna be sold in penny packets to other countries rather than deployed in 20w divisions? Nah, no way, we'll participate in the Ukrainian reconquest of Russia first.

It also doesn't require as much nuance as trying to see medieval history through the perspective of a medieval person, for example, which is probably why it attracts these ideologically obsessed freaks so much. They can grandstand on the evils of the Goose-steppers without seeming like a total bellend, and more often than not they will not face any pushback from academia because most academics dealing with the topic are ideologically obsessed freaks too. Try that shit with Medievistics and you will get the pimp hand so hard that you'll fall out of your seat. That's probably why historians are the least likely to be turned into these sorts of America-obsessed terminally online Marxists among humanities students here.

I'm endlessly fascinated by that sort of thing. Seeing things from the perspective of people like me in being people but having a completely different outlook is an incredible thrill. Max Miller talking about historical recipes and why they're that way, the history of particular objects/artifacts, and other everyday history is my absolute jam.

Yes I would like to know the economics and price of the jam industry. Screw the wars and battles and political stuff. I wanna know what people who lived on the other side of the world 500 years ago ate for some obscure festival I don't even know about.

 

[MyBallsItch]

This fact still to this day blows my mind and I've never had it adequately explained to me why this is the case.

From what I was able to gather, it was mainly because of the armor. The Panzer IV has all sorts of weird angles (especially that V-shape near the engine and the front having a sort of blocky S-shape from the side) while the Panther had pretty straight angles. The raw thickness of the armor is pretty comparable too, the G variant onwards the Panzer IV had around 80 millimeters of frontal armor and so did the Panther, but the effective thickness was a lot higher on the latter. The amount of welding required for the Panzer IV's armor scheme compared to the protection it offered made it a lot more expensive in the long run.

Now, manufacturing the gun, the ammunition for it and the engine was more expensive on the Panther, but overall, the Panther had a higher cost-to-benefit ratio than the Panzer IV.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Regardless the Fact remains, The stopping power of .30 carbine Is around the same as a .357, hardly sufficient as a battle rifle.

1300J with a 18" barrel, give or take the same as the 14.5" AR carbines the US Military uses today as standard issue. Yes, certainly a far cry from 30-06 but the whole point of what eventually became the assault rifle concept is that you don't need a full-spec battle rifle to shoot from 300 yards in when an intermediate cartridge will do.

And separately, for fuck's sake, even 357 out of a tiny snubnose, let alone a proper carbine, would definitely penetrate a thick wool coat.

 

[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

I'm taking the Garand, thank you very much.

Spoiler: your thumb, nigga

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

From what I was able to gather, it was mainly because of the armor.

In an extreme oversimplification, it wasn’t about the armor but more that it needed fewer parts, less labor and thus fewer $$$ to build a Panther than the Panzer IV. In addition to be designed and built to be the breakthrough medium tank instead of being a support tank (Panzer IV) press ganged into the role of medium tank.

Regardless the Fact remains, The stopping power of .30 carbine Is around the same as a .357, hardly sufficient as a battle rifle. And I say that is someone who is a big fan of the m1 carbine.

Missing the part of the. 30 carbine never was a battle rifle as it is a rifle carbine; and was intended for the rear line echelon personnal like artillery, and logistics and not a replacement for the Garand or .30-06. Plus the. 30 carbine was to replace and did the SMGs like the .45ACP Thompsons and pistols. For the cartridge comparisons the .30 Carbine shits all over the .45 ACP and 9mm Luger during WWII to the time of this post. Where as both .45 ACP and 9mm have to be loaded to ÷P just to match the .30 Carbine.

 

[Foltest]

Calling the STG 44 comical bad is just dumb.
As others have said, it was the first assault rifle that was produced in large numbers (other countries prototypes doesn’t count) and it being made in WWII will give it some questionable design decisions.

Calling it overrated I can give, but saying it is was bad, is just dishonest.

 

[Übertroon]

If a Sherman crewman saw a Panther, his first thought wasn't "oh, I'm in a much more reliable and well-rounded vehicle, that shitcan will break down in a few minutes, let's just wait for it", it was probably "oh, fuck, get me out of here".

A lot of people having kneejerk reactions to wehraboos make the mistake to look at the tank from a strategic point of view rather than a tactical one.
Tigers and Panthers weren't bad in a match up against allied tanks. Tank crew don't think "Thank God I'm in a cheaper tank that's easier to ship and train new crews in" they think, "Oh shit that fucker has a massive cannon".
The Germans did the best they could with the situation they found themselves in. Griping about poor reliability seems silly when you consider the Panther could drive three times longer than a T-34 without needing service, and could drive equal distance to a Churchill or Sherman without needing service.
There was a Bergepanther that managed 20 000 km without needing service compared to the Panther tank average of 1000 km. It just required the tank to be lucky with the materiale used in production and a good driver that wasn't going to mail the gears