Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

[soulgains]

Sales *do not matter* to these people. The *message* is what matters.

And unfortunately, exhibiting Fandom Menace/EFAP behavior about the product just gives them fuel for their "chud incels are the problem" narrative.

But the biggest reason you shouldn't watch it is because if it fucking sucks, and you fucking hate it...why waste your valuable time on it? I get that this is a website for shitting on internet retards, but this TV show has a grand total of like 8 hours(?) of total airtime and yet people have been losing their absolute shit about it for what feels like a week straight now. How much can possibly be mined from 8 hours of garbage television?

This will definitely sound gay but im gonna go ahead anyways. I spent my highschool/college years playing New Vegas, I eventually played 1 and 2 all the way through once each, but i was never as attatched to them as I was to New Vegas. For a dumb teenager its an incredibly thought provoking game and forces you to make choices no other game would make you do. When my cat got diagnosed with cancer I sunk hours into that game trying ignore the impending loss of my best friend, ignore that he was even there in the first place. But hed snuggle up next to me and watch me play as he fell asleep. Him being on his death bed is tied to my memory of these games, and it made every small detail so much more impactful. Fallout as a series means something to me personally, and I know its not the same for everyone but this show is such an extreme bastardization even people who have never played a Fallout game can see it is utter dogshit. I don't like spergery over movies or video games, I tend to ignore most of it, but for me, and Im sure for some other people, this show was like spitting on the graves of their childhood. I'd prefer no show to this show, and the IP being exposed to abunch of retards with zero care for or understanding of the source material. Ill forget about this show in a week, in a month, whenever I do, because life moves fast, but the utter insult this was to my youth, to my Cat who spent his final days watching me be happy and engage with a game that made me laugh and smile, will sit with me for awhile. At least thats the feeling. I wish I could exchange the experience.

 

[AWizard]

Watched it, enjoyed it, but it completely raped the lore

I thought it was OK. If you're a casual fan or enjoyed Fallout 4/76, you'd probably enjoy it, but if you are more invested in the lore and history and general feel of the pre-Bethesda series, you'd most likely dislike it.......

.......Now, instead of widespread human greed, callousness, and myopia that led to the war, it's because Vault-Tec gambled on there being profits after a nuclear war is started, and therefore triggered it.

I thought it was aggressively okay. For the first couple of episodes it feels a little "netflix'd" but that feeling subsides. And if you've never played Fallout it's a decent post-apocalyptic series with a 50s(?) (now retro)futuristic twist. But I've played Fallout (only played Fallout 3 & 4) and the main draw of those games were exploring the wasteland and finding bits and pieces of the world left behind, the mysteries of the vault-tec vaults each with it's own little story etc, the main quest was always meh, so following the lead character in the tv series isn't really that interesting. I don't know what other lore it breaks but having the vault-tec corp definitively drop the bombs ruins the mystery of how the world went to shit. (Also wasn't a fan of the nudity. Don't remember any nudity in fallout.)

Okay I can understand why someone might enjoy the show…but what the Hell is up with all these normies and YouTubers completely soyjacking to it like it’s our generation’s The Sopranos?

Either the collective IQ of the general population is declining faster than previously thought, normies are more easy to feed goyslop to than I realized, or Amazon is astroturfing this shit and paying people off. I think there’s also a possibility that Amazon is deleting negative reviews of the show, like what the moderators of r/NewVegas did with their subreddit when there were too many posts complaining about the show, only to resurrect a new subreddit that became filled with nothing but glowing reviews.

Probably all of the above. The normalfags of today lack nuance and are quick to jump on the bandwagon.

The Fallout series is incredibly derivative of earlier works and pretty cliched and hamfisted but that's okay for a videogame because you can explore the themes and shit in a new novel way (and the storyline of a videogame doesn't actually need to be good). As a tv series, I get this kinda sick feeling in my stomach like I get with adaptations (of videogames) and sequels and remakes and reboots where Hollywood is just recycling old material over and over again and an audience who's become inured to recycled crap.

 

[56 others]

And if you've never played Fallout it's a decent post-apocalyptic series with a 50s(?)

I feel like the biggest problem with the series is it does absolutely nothing to explain or share world lore. I can't recommend this to my mom who loves shows like this, because there is nothing in the show to explain, well, anything.

 

[filthypenguin]

Also wasn't a fan of the nudity. Don't remember any nudity in fallout.

Spoiler: New Vegas

 

[The handsome tard]

Predictions for season 2:
NCR will have a major presence
It will be stated clearly that the war was not actually started by Vault-Tech, probably it'll be presented as a plot twist
It will be stated clearly that the nuke happened after 2277
We will see or hear about the new NCR capitol, probably the hoover dam
We will see or hear about the Legion in some form (my guess is they merged with the BoS)
The show will make a joke ripped directly from New Vegas and people in this thread will say the joke is to wacky for Fallout
Everyone in this thread will bitch about plot points that they didn't understand and say that they ruined the lore

*rubs eyes* Okay, I'll bite.
*clean throat* Lets go

NCR will have a major presence

There is literally nothing that indicates that this is the case. All evidences point that they are gone or so splintered that it doesnt matter anymore. Assuming you are right, and suddenly they are back? Thats just bad storytelling. Just wiping out a faction and then bringing them back over and over and over.

Its fucky when its done with the Enclave and this is no exception.

It will be stated clearly that the war was not actually started by Vault-Tech, probably it'll be presented as a plot twist

Why would they suddenly reveal that? What would be the narrative pay off? First its China, then no, it was Vault Tec only for the next season to say "Nah, it was China alright". Or no, they will not say it was China, IRL China wouldnt like that so just say it was the Zetans, there we go.

if you legit think this is good storytelling, you are a grade A retard, Im sorry.

It will be stated clearly that the nuke happened after 2277

Even if so, it doesnt really change anything in the long term. Sure, it doesnt retcon NV but its still bad storytelling having the capital of the NCR suddenly get nuked because of some random Vault Tec fool and thus causing the West Coast to devolve into East Coast styled raider filled state.

Besides, its bad storytelling that led us into this "misconception" in the first place.

We will see or hear about the new NCR capitol, probably the hoover dam

I wont say thats IMPOSSIBLE but it seems a tad unlikely given the poor state that New Vegas seems to be atm. What? Are they saying NCR fucked up N.V too? And enough time would have passed that NCR would probably try to take some control of the West Coast back, thus bringing a minor presence into the show.

BAD storytelling.

We will see or hear about the Legion in some form (my guess is they merged with the BoS)

We have L
We have O
We have L

What we have?

LOL
In no way would the Legion ever team up with the BOS, they hate them.

Here is what Ceasar thinks of them

"The worst impulses of mankind, concentrated in one insane, backward tribe. The Brotherhood seems to have formed not long after the great atomic war. It's hard to know - they care little for history. Some of the Brotherhood scribes we captured further East didn't even know the name of their founder, Roger Maxson. They like to pretty up their mission with trappings of chivalry, but the truth is they're horders. They horde technology. It's been 200 years, and they still have the mentality of scavengers. They say they're preserving these technologies, but for what? They have no vision. They offer no future. They're a dead end."

Only the NCR is able to entertain a possible alliance with the BOS, only motivated through necessity of allies against the Legion. Otherwise, House and Ceasar wont accept any compromises, they are either destroyed or you are done working for them.

And this is a heavily influenced East Coast BOS so I'd imagine they would feel even less of a need to work with the local raider faction that is the Legion. The Legion like names are most likely just a coincidence through Amazon/Bethesda tier writing.

Bad storytelling.

Everyone in this thread will say that it's backpedaling

Cuz it is, bitch.

The show will make a joke ripped directly from New Vegas and people in this thread will say the joke is to wacky for Fallout

Assuming that happens, maybe you are right. But you know why? Because what works in a game doesnt work in a TV show. And you said wacky, so I'll assume its some "Wild Wasteland" shit and I can imagine you being able to add it in the show if you disguise it as a result of drugs or maybe a head trauma, thus liking it closer to the idea of Wild Wasteland, where basically its the courier seeing some shit cuz of the bullets in his nogging.

But we all know the writers wont be that clever and tight to the source material, they made it clear to us that they dont care (at least not enough to not insult us).

Everyone in this thread will bitch about plot points that they didn't understand and say that they ruined the lore

"They didnt understand", why? Cuz we werent smart enough to get the genius behind it and you, the intellectual, was? Shut the fuck up. Its one thing to believe that certain plot points will be expanded and explained later on, cuz the story usually foreshadows it or leaves the door open for it. Its another to gaslight yourself that it will make sense "eventually".

I remember Steven Universe fans constantly gaslighting themselves and others that their lore would make sense "eventually". Then it ended and it still didnt. And its fucking hilarious to seeing that happening again, consumers are truly nigger cattle.

All of this wouldnt be happening if Bethesda kept their mouths shut over this being canon because we would ignore it like Halo fans ignore the Halo TV series, dismissing it as corporate DEI approved fanfiction. But no, this is canon being molded by people who actively hate it and people like YOU will always defend them from well earned criticism.

Its because of the acceptance of this and TLoU tv show that I fear they have mastered the art of "normie pleasing" where they only need to please the normie tier "fans" instead of the "fans fans" of the IP they are adapting. I fucking swear, Warhammer is next and I cant wait to see the shills defending that trashfire.

 

[Miller]

Disillusioned Player reviewed the show too:

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

They didn't trigger it.

Predictions for season 2:
NCR will have a major presence
It will be stated clearly that the war was not actually started by Vault-Tech, probably it'll be presented as a plot twist
It will be stated clearly that the nuke happened after 2277
We will see or hear about the new NCR capitol, probably the hoover dam
We will see or hear about the Legion in some form (my guess is they merged with the BoS)
Everyone in this thread will say that it's backpedaling
The show will make a joke ripped directly from New Vegas and people in this thread will say the joke is to wacky for Fallout
Everyone in this thread will bitch about plot points that they didn't understand and say that they ruined the lore

Here's my prediction. It will suck and only faggots will enjoy it.

 

[TheHarbinger]

There is literally nothing that indicates that this is the case. All evidences point that they are gone or so splintered that it doesnt matter anymore. Assuming you are right, and suddenly they are back? Thats just bad storytelling. Just wiping out a faction and then bringing them back over and over and over.

Its fucky when its done with the Enclave and this is no exception.

Dude you're thinking way too hard to be a Bethesda writer. Sure the NCR has no trace in the Fallout Amazon show. In fact it seems like they are nuked entirely off the map and existence. But that doesn't matter. They can just come back like Palpatine. "Somehow....the NCR....returned". Just because it contradicts game lore or even show lore doesn't mean that it matters from season to season or game to game. It's Bethesda.

Remember the ending of Fallout 2? The Enclave? Because Fallout 3 begins with them amassing a gigantic force on the East Coast. And having some Capital Wasteland wide American Civil War with the Brotherhood. Remember the Master from Fallout 1? Supermutants? Apparently they all mass migrated to Washington D.C. and some of them are 400ft tall. Why? Because who cares just consume.

You're thinking like anything matters in this universe. His retarded predictions are right in line with Bethesda style writing. And Amazon's writers are literally just as horrid and untalented as anyone from Bethesda. Their lead writer basically is a ghost on IMDB up until materializing for this project.

 

[filthypenguin]

There is literally nothing that indicates that this is the case. All evidences point that they are gone or so splintered that it doesnt matter anymore. Assuming you are right, and suddenly they are back? Thats just bad storytelling. Just wiping out a faction and then bringing them back over and over and over.

The giant sign that says the capital is elsewhere makes me think that probably the capital is elsewhere and they'd have no reason to include the giant sign if they weren't going to talk about it later. Also they didn't wipe out a faction, they wiped out a single town that was no longer the capital, and then a secret base that half the plot revolved around trying to find.

Why would they suddenly reveal that? What would be the narrative pay off? First its China, then no, it was Vault Tec only for the next season to say "Nah, it was China alright". Or no, they will not say it was China, IRL China wouldnt like that so just say it was the Zetans, there we go.

They'll reveal it as the twist that explains why the daughter wasn't in a vault. They won't say who it is specifically, they'll say "it doesn't matter who dropped the bombs." I think it's bad storytelling because it's so obvious, but since the whole thread keeps insisting that it was Vault-tec when all the show says is that they were willing, it'll probably catch a lot of people off guard.

Sure, it doesnt retcon NV but its still bad storytelling having the capital of the NCR suddenly get nuked because of some random Vault Tec fool and thus causing the West Coast to devolve into East Coast styled raider filled state.

Besides, its bad storytelling that led us into this "misconception" in the first place.

It wasn't the capital. Having it nuked was the plot of Van Buren, and NV already had raiders everywhere. If nuking Shady Sands is bad storytelling, then OG Fallout writers had bad storytelling.

The "misconception" wasn't bad storytelling, it was your inability to read a timeline.

Cuz it is, bitch.

It's only backpedaling if they change a direction they were planning on going in. The stuff everyone is pissed about isn't even in the show to begin with.
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Here is what Ceasar thinks of them

Doesn't matter what Ceasar thinks of them, he's dead. Either the Courier or cancer killed him. The BoS is using Roman names, they treat the aspirants as disposable, and the guy in charge complains constantly about how the BoS isn't what it used to be. I think the BoS absorbed them, but I could be wrong.

They didnt understand", why? Cuz we werent smart enough to get the genius behind it and you, the intellectual, was?

I don't think you need to be an intellectual to understand the meaning of an arrow in a timeline, or to read "first capital" and understand that there must be a newer capital elsewhere, or that the stated intent to launch a bomb is not the same as actually launching it, but here we are.

 

[Stoneheart]

Doesn't matter what Ceasar thinks of them, he's dead. Either the Courier or cancer killed him. The BoS is using Roman names, they treat the aspirants as disposable, and the guy in charge complains constantly about how the BoS isn't what it used to be. I think the BoS absorbed them, but I could be wrong.

Thats the most retarded idea i ever heared so they will go with it.
lets merge the insane techfanatics with the guys who dont openly use tech...

 

[Ensok]

We will see or hear about the Legion in some form (my guess is they merged with the BoS)

The only thing that would be interesting would be if we learned that some character in season 1 was a Frumentarii the entire time and Lanius or Vulpes is alive and in charge of the Legion and they're preparing to invade California after their agent has been spying on things.

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

Is there a single post apocalyptic show, game or anything that actually addresses that? Feels like its something they ignore on purpose for the sake of convenience or the writers legit are that stupid.

Show wise, excluding nuclear war scare-media like Threads & The Day After where ”those killed instantly are the lucky ones”, there’s just the shitty Fear The Walking Dead, and ironically probably best done in The Last Man On Earth, with Will Forre. In that one, the NPP in their region starts to melt down & they look at maps to determine they have to relocate to central Mexico to avoid the fallout path.

 

[KonradCruise]

Here's what TV Tropes says about the series.

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The only context require to understand the "Sex talk" scene is that a virgin 50 year old woman comedian wrote it and it casts the BROTHAhood of steel groid as a completely clueless, sheltered imbecile even though he lived a rough life on a rough and tumble base as an aspirant.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

i have finished the show and, controversial hot take incoming, i liked it. I know, shocking, but let me explain
as a person who does not give a shit about fallout lore and think it's autistic to hyperfocus on it, as a standalone show it's perfectly fine. definitely got that fallout aesthetic spot on though. as for the more spoilery bits:

Spoiler

my understanding is the shady sands thing happens right after new vegas but shit was popping off early and post new vegas was the climax of it all. as for the corps starting the war for profits so they're the sole company at the end of the world, yeah i could totally believe that shit.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Okay I can understand why someone might enjoy the show…but what the Hell is up with all these normies and YouTubers completely soyjacking to it like it’s our generation’s The Sopranos?

Either the collective IQ of the general population is declining faster than previously thought, normies are more easy to feed goyslop to than I realized, or Amazon is astroturfing this shit and paying people off. I think there’s also a possibility that Amazon is deleting negative reviews of the show, like what the moderators of r/NewVegas did with their subreddit when there were too many posts complaining about the show, only to resurrect a new subreddit that became filled with nothing but glowing reviews.

It all feels extremely unnatural and corporate-controlled.

Youtubers are willing to take checks to push some of the most janky scan products like rocket money which is basically a glorified budgeting app and private Internet access which 90% of the population doesn't need as well as **** like G fuel you think they're above taking some checks from Amazon to say it was a good show

 

[Commander X]

Waitaminute, I don't think this was an actual Kotuko tweet!!!!1!

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

It wasn't the capital. Having it nuked was the plot of Van Buren, and NV already had raiders everywhere. If nuking Shady Sands is bad storytelling, then OG Fallout writers had bad storytelling

Not only did you not understand storytelling, you don't even understand lore.

Van Buren was never made. It never happened. Saying it's important to the show is like saying Neil Blomkamp's unmade Aliens sequel is important to the Alien series.

You're using an unmade, non-canon story to justify bad writing. Fuck off.

 

[why42]

filthypenguin literally sounds a redditor and your arguments souds like something you heard on youtube shill videos. Is Amazon paying you or just a bethesda fan boy. Your argument for Sinclair is fucking brain dead. If Sinclair owns big mountain it would of been said In the game Also dude looks like fucking gizmo. I've also watched the first episode with a two friends who never played the games and they thought it was boring and confusing. The only reason I think the game sales have increased is because of the fact that whole series went on Sale. Fallout four was like 4 dollars on Playstation.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

Supermutants? Apparently they all mass migrated to Washington D.C. and some of them are 400ft tall. Why? Because who cares just consume.

The supermutants in 3 are not related to the ones from the west coast, they are the product of Vault 87 experiments.

 

[#lurker]

They didn't trigger it.

Predictions for season 2:
NCR will have a major presence
It will be stated clearly that the war was not actually started by Vault-Tech, probably it'll be presented as a plot twist
It will be stated clearly that the nuke happened after 2277
We will see or hear about the new NCR capitol, probably the hoover dam
We will see or hear about the Legion in some form (my guess is they merged with the BoS)
Everyone in this thread will say that it's backpedaling
The show will make a joke ripped directly from New Vegas and people in this thread will say the joke is to wacky for Fallout
Everyone in this thread will bitch about plot points that they didn't understand and say that they ruined the lore

These are not predictions but a wishlist. I'm willing to bet not a single one of these comes true. Do you understand how Amazon operates?