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There are crowded city bus lines. This is where the "efficiency" line is drawn, though. If you want public transit to be efficient and profitable, starting slashing stops, routes, and night service. Float that idea to any city council and they'll hate it, because beyond the crying about marginalized people and "rights", it's a public service and not supposed to turn a profit. And while that may be the case, don't tell me how it's a "more efficient" service in the same breath.
Some cities have actually wisened up and if you have bus pass you get $100 a quarter/year/whatever “credit” toward taxi or Uber, so they don’t need to run super late service.

A combination travel system is what will work best, but that doesn’t mean you’ll get what you want - I’d love a train from my block to the airport terminal but that’s not going to happen, but a well built transportation system (including cars!) will give someone that, and everyone else will have workable options.
 

I saw this video making rounds on Reddit.
I can agree with the sentiment in locations that can't naturally support lawns. If you're needing to regularly water it (as opposed to it subsisting off rainfall) and fertilize it and all sorts of other stuff you'd probably be better off with a real crop if that's what you're into or an easier to maintain ground cover if you prefer having an open space for recreation and kids and such.
 
There were other comments on that post saying much the same thing. I would say a good 80-90% of the comments were not having it.
I think is shows him much this anti-car/pro-urbanism is astroturfed. That post popped up in thousands of Facebook normies feeds where they are not liking this content. There 5.7k comments on it and only a couple of the few dozen I scrolled though were remotely positive.
I would say the only time I've been on a full bus has been for any sort of park and ride for events or airports where you're only going a couple miles at most and only 1 stop.
For a solid couple of months there was a point where they would not stop showing me this shit on my Facebook/YouTube. Granted maybe the first few were on me given that I go on fuckcars for milk, but it persisted well after I went on incognito whenever I browsed there. I had to spend the better part of a month reporting every single urbanist ad I saw for 'self-harm' before they got this shit off my fucking timeline.

If there's one thing I psychotically despise about Internet 3.0, moreso than the ads, moreso than the retarded black people, moreso than the censorship, it's how they can just insert shit into my feed that I've expressed no interest in and force me to look at it. I have never in my life expressed an interest in Taylor Swift or black trannies, yet there they are on my feed.
 
I can agree with the sentiment in locations that can't naturally support lawns. If you're needing to regularly water it (as opposed to it subsisting off rainfall) and fertilize it and all sorts of other stuff you'd probably be better off with a real crop if that's what you're into or an easier to maintain ground cover if you prefer having an open space for recreation and kids and such.
Most people don't live in areas with a water shortage and most of the ones who do live in such an area have artificial turf or gravel "lawns".

The exception is California (and they are very vocal online and in the media) but even they wouldn't have water issues if they had a competent government that maintained and expanded their reservoir system.
There were other comments on that post saying much the same thing. I would say a good 80-90% of the comments were not having it.
I think is shows him much this anti-car/pro-urbanism is astroturfed. That post popped up in thousands of Facebook normies feeds where they are not liking this content. There 5.7k comments on it and only a couple of the few dozen I scrolled though were remotely positive.
Normal people agree with certain urbanist ideas but very few actually like the urbanists' implementation of those ideas, which is why they constantly complain about "astroturfing by Big Oil" whenever they face resistance despite polls "saying" that their ideas are popular.
  • Normal people hear "build safe bike infrastructure" and support building a grade-separated bike network like Milton Keynes or any number of American suburbs but balk when the urbanist takes their "support" and uses it to justify tearing up half the roads and replacing them with unused bike lanes.
  • Someone might support developing a parking lot but only if the developer builds a parking garage to replace the lost parking. In a sane world, it's a win-win to build both the building and a garage, but not to an urbanist who wants to make it impossible to drive to places.
  • Normal people think pedestrian bridges and tunnels are a great idea to cross a busy intersection, but urbanists hate them because they don't slow down cars. Cities like Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Minneapolis, Toronto, and many more have tunnel/skybridge networks that are incredibly popular, but many of them have been sabotaged by urbanists who hate that they "steal" traffic from street level.
  • Mixed-use outdoor malls are incredibly popular and developers can't stop building them. Urbanists complain about them because they have parking garages and because a lot of them have separate retail and residential buildings, which doesn't get them closer to their dream "European-style city" even though such a design is preferred by tenants because they don't have to hear the noise created by the businesses and their patrons.
  • Normal people don't mind apartment buildings provided that the developer builds enough infrastructure to support them and that they're not filled with people on welfare. That's not good enough for urbanists who demand "affordable housing" (i.e. making middle class people pay more in rent so someone else gets to pay a fraction of the market rate) and balk at impact fees if they go towards widening roads to support the increased population.
The quickest way to redpill someone about the true nature of urbanists is to propose good solutions that accomplish the urbanist's stated goal (e.g. bike trails, parking garages, pedestrian bridges, fare-funded transit, etc.) and let the urbanist freak out when they realize that you prevented them from restricting car usage. Normal people look at them like they're crazy as shown in the Facebook post.
 
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Even funnier considering these are the same types who bitch and moan incessantly about landlords.
They believe the solution is that the government should run them. At one time the government did and they were called housing projects, which are considered double plus ungood now because they’re rayciss. However their problem with them was that people of means were able to leave them. In their dream world, as dictator, you are unable to flee these housing projects; if a nigger stabs you for your groceries while waiting for the foul smelling elevator that takes forever to move, well, thems the breaks.
Normal people agree with certain urbanist ideas but very few actually like the urbanists' implementation of those ideas, which is why they constantly complain about "astroturfing by Big Oil" whenever they face resistance despite polls "saying" that their ideas are popular.
This applies to things like renewable energy too. You ask if they’re in favor of renewable energy and most people will say yes. When you say energy becomes more expensive and you have to deal with rolling blackouts because of it, then people are against it. Watermelon politics requires leaving out most of the information and lots and lots of lying.
 
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Looks like a Fuckcars user was not happy at Null calling "amsterdam's a shithole full of immigrants”. This was on the MATI youtube archive of the FuckCar’s gumroad special. And he called null a “Fashtard”
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And he claims the “highway men are nazis”
It sounds like bait but I thought I would share anyway
 
The quickest way to redpill someone about the true nature of urbanists is to propose good solutions that accomplish the urbanist's stated goal (e.g. bike trails, parking garages, pedestrian bridges, fare-funded transit, etc.) and let the urbanist freak out when they realize that you prevented them from restricting car usage. Normal people look at them like they're crazy as shown in the Facebook post.
There's a lot of things that you can point out if you actually think about for more than two seconds, like the presence of apartment buildings in suburban areas.


They believe the solution is that the government should run them. At one time the government did and they were called housing projects, which are considered double plus ungood now because they’re rayciss. However their problem with them was that people of means were able to leave them. In their dream world, as dictator, you are unable to flee these housing projects; if a nigger stabs you for your groceries while waiting for the foul smelling elevator that takes forever to move, well, thems the breaks.
Cabrini-Green Homes was 75% white originally. The problem is that urbanists think that crime (especially associated with certain demographics) doesn't exist. Even in newsworthy situations where some white bugman has an encounter with a violent urban resident and thinks can just talk him out of it (there was some article where something like that happened but I can't find it), they don't listen, they don't believe. This is because most urbanists (or more accurately their parents) live in upper middle-class neighborhoods where you just don't see deranged violent urban residents on the street.
 
Looks like a Fuckcars user was not happy at Null calling "amsterdam's a shithole full of immigrants”. This was on the MATI youtube archive of the FuckCar’s gumroad special. And he called null a “Fashtard”
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And he claims the “highway men are nazis”
It sounds like bait but I thought I would share anyway
"Highways are a giant gas chamber to kill the weak"

That has to be a troll
 
What always gets me about this particular talking point is that they always assume that everyone is trying to get from the same point A to the same point B, which is only true for a college campus or if you work in some compact financial district. They neglect to mention that transit has to stop every block or so because everyone has a different start and end point!
This gets to the essence of their problem. They want every thing to be like college. If someone doesn't want the college lifestyle, well, that person must simply be wrong! So much for college being about expanding one's mental horizons and learning how to think better.

What I find particularly funny about your point above, is that the adding of additional stops to the bus routes to make them more useful is also one of the bigger factors that slows the bus down. If I were to take the bus to work, the best route would go from a bus hub near my house, down one of the city's main arteries to the commercial area where my job is. But, that bus will be stopping at every other stoplight to pick up or drop off passengers. It will make detours through residential neighborhoods just off that major artery. It will make a loop through the outdoor mall at the crossing of one artery, and another.

All of these stops make that bus line more useful for anyone who has a destination along that road. But for every passenger on that bus, stopping at someone else's stop is effectively a delay. And so this bus route takes about an hour to go from the bus hub to where my job is. I can take my car down the same arterial road and be at my job in 30 minutes. Hard to beat that.
 
For a solid couple of months there was a point where they would not stop showing me this shit on my Facebook/YouTube. Granted maybe the first few were on me given that I go on fuckcars for milk, but it persisted well after I went on incognito whenever I browsed there. I had to spend the better part of a month reporting every single urbanist ad I saw for 'self-harm' before they got this shit off my fucking timeline.

If there's one thing I psychotically despise about Internet 3.0, moreso than the ads, moreso than the retarded black people, moreso than the censorship, it's how they can just insert shit into my feed that I've expressed no interest in and force me to look at it. I have never in my life expressed an interest in Taylor Swift or black trannies, yet there they are on my feed.
Instagram too, and of course you can't say any witty comment without getting auto-jannied by the gay robot moderators. It's such a godawful site too, all the way through, from UI to content to userbase... I don't know how we can have a thread mocking Twitter but not one on Meta's bullshit.
 
The problem is that urbanists think that crime (especially associated with certain demographics) doesn't exist.
They don't think it doesn't exist, it's worse than that. They think that the problem is that it gets concentrated in niggertown because "muhcars". and they're somewhat right about an aspect of it.

If you have a nice town or part of a city, it can support a certain number of fucktards - either homeless, petty criminals, the town rapist, immigrants, whatever.

All of their shit is trying to force the non-WEF crowd to be equally dispersed and mixed so that they can try their brilliant scheme. The big problem for them is every single group and person involved does not want this homogenous blend everywhere. Chinks will move to chinatown, niggers will move to Detroit, whites will move to the suburbs.

What's super sad is they've made so many strides against preventing the mixture that the only thing left is price stratification, which means that niggers who don't want to live in niggertown (e.g., that want to "act white" and not do crimes) are priced out of the places that would have been acceptable to them. This has mainly been caused by immigrants, mind you, as they're willing to sleep fifty to a house as necessary.
 
What's super sad is they've made so many strides against preventing the mixture that the only thing left is price stratification, which means that niggers who don't want to live in niggertown (e.g., that want to "act white" and not do crimes) are priced out of the places that would have been acceptable to them. This has mainly been caused by immigrants, mind you, as they're willing to sleep fifty to a house as necessary.
It works for every race tbh. You could have grown up in a nice neighborhood, but now the houses are half a million a pop, and you have to go to the slums. All because we must jam ten thousand extra people into your town you grew up in.
 
It works for every race tbh. You could have grown up in a nice neighborhood, but now the houses are half a million a pop, and you have to go to the slums. All because we must jam ten thousand extra people into your town you grew up in.
This makes it kind of clear that house price appreciation as a result of endless money printing is a feature not a flaw; by inflating house prices past a certain point, you end up "trapping" people in the house that they own, afraid to sell because the only way to do it reasonably is to move too far away from their area, reducing mobility and eliminating one of the main defences against niggerfication so-called white flight.

If that all is correct, you will see increased pressure against the two remaining outliers - single-income married families and the "FIRE" crowd (financially independent, retire early).
 
This makes it kind of clear that house price appreciation as a result of endless money printing is a feature not a flaw; by inflating house prices past a certain point, you end up "trapping" people in the house that they own, afraid to sell because the only way to do it reasonably is to move too far away from their area, reducing mobility and eliminating one of the main defences against niggerfication so-called white flight.

If that all is correct, you will see increased pressure against the two remaining outliers - single-income married families and the "FIRE" crowd (financially independent, retire early).
It's not just the people that own houses but their kids. If prices keep going up and all that's available are apartments, a pod future looks likely, sadly.
 
This gets to the essence of their problem. They want every thing to be like college. If someone doesn't want the college lifestyle, well, that person must simply be wrong! So much for college being about expanding one's mental horizons and learning how to think better.

What I find particularly funny about your point above, is that the adding of additional stops to the bus routes to make them more useful is also one of the bigger factors that slows the bus down. If I were to take the bus to work, the best route would go from a bus hub near my house, down one of the city's main arteries to the commercial area where my job is. But, that bus will be stopping at every other stoplight to pick up or drop off passengers. It will make detours through residential neighborhoods just off that major artery. It will make a loop through the outdoor mall at the crossing of one artery, and another.

All of these stops make that bus line more useful for anyone who has a destination along that road. But for every passenger on that bus, stopping at someone else's stop is effectively a delay. And so this bus route takes about an hour to go from the bus hub to where my job is. I can take my car down the same arterial road and be at my job in 30 minutes. Hard to beat that.
And the urbanist riding that bus seethes with envy and resentment against every little car that delays his bus' acceleration by 1 second. "Everyone should be stuck on a bus like me, then I'd get there a minute sooner!" . He never realizes that his frustration is borne of a mismatch between his high-agency temperament and his choice of a low-agency mode of travel!
 
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Personally, I wouldn't be so smug about "average suburbanite financial awareness" because a quick eyeballing this car's MSRP is about $56k (an above-average cost for a new car) then financed it for $84k (article here) at some 24% interest.

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Remember that when it comes to $2B/a mile projects like Second Avenue Subway they're all over it.
 
Personally, I wouldn't be so smug about "average suburbanite financial awareness" because a quick eyeballing this car's MSRP is about $56k (an above-average cost for a new car) then financed it for $84k (article here) at some 24% interest.

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Remember that when it comes to $2B/a mile projects like Second Avenue Subway they're all over it.
retards spend too much on fancy cars, that much is obvious. That's not an issue with cars though, its an issue with retards. Most people can budget correctly
 
Ladies and gents, I may have to concede that I am carbrained and completely felted by the urbanists. Last Sunday night, I saw a perfect example of mass transit in tight spaces. I present to you the mini-train.

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Seating up to twelve and taking up a lot less space than a car, this mini-train was very popular with kids and adults alike, easily maneuvering in the wide open internal spaces of the mall. Pedestrians were easily warned off by kiddy songs played for the passengers, even as the electric motor silently delivered efficient power to the locomotive.

This mini-train solves all the problems with urban transit, and I expect policies to see them replacing cars in the city soon, before more pedestrians are killed and global warming boils the oceans and turns the planet into a sauna. Kneel before your new lord and master, carbrains, it's all over.
 
Personally, I wouldn't be so smug about "average suburbanite financial awareness" because a quick eyeballing this car's MSRP is about $56k (an above-average cost for a new car) then financed it for $84k (article here) at some 24% interest.

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Remember that when it comes to $2B/a mile projects like Second Avenue Subway they're all over it.
"Heh, how financially illiterate", said the bartender with a master's degree in Gender Studies.
 
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