Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

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Truly a planet that is the California of the Star Wars universe.
This gave me a real fuckin bleak idea of what disney might try in desperation to keep the shit train rolling

What if they straight up pull a JJ Abrams Trek and "reboot" the original trilogy with Rey having gone back in time to save Alderaan or some shit and wound up inadvertently changing a bunch of shit so whatever hack they hire to write can shit out some godawful "twist" filled rewrite of the OT that winds up being just a soulless rehash of the soulless rehash that was TLJ, likely with Luke being killed by a now super duper evil Vader who then snokes the emperor just so that they can end the rebortion trilogy with Rey and her loyal apprentice Leia killing Super Sithian Vader on the Extermination Star or....oh fuck this the possibilities are too cancerous to contemplate
 
This gave me a real fuckin bleak idea of what disney might try in desperation to keep the shit train rolling

What if they straight up pull a JJ Abrams Trek and "reboot" the original trilogy with Rey having gone back in time to save Alderaan or some shit and wound up inadvertently changing a bunch of shit so whatever hack they hire to write can shit out some godawful "twist" filled rewrite of the OT that winds up being just a soulless rehash of the soulless rehash that was TLJ, likely with Luke being killed by a now super duper evil Vader who then snokes the emperor just so that they can end the rebortion trilogy with Rey and her loyal apprentice Leia killing Super Sithian Vader on the Extermination Star or....oh fuck this the possibilities are too cancerous to contemplate

Nah Disney doesn't have that good an imagination.

Its more like Rey goes back in time, is sloppily re-edited into old footage, and it was actually Rey that helps Luke do everything he does. At the end of Ep6 Luke drinks blue milk, reminds everyone thst their victory was only possible with Rey, and he and Han cheer as Rey marries Leia.
 
This gave me a real fuckin bleak idea of what disney might try in desperation to keep the shit train rolling

What if they straight up pull a JJ Abrams Trek and "reboot" the original trilogy with Rey having gone back in time to save Alderaan or some shit and wound up inadvertently changing a bunch of shit so whatever hack they hire to write can shit out some godawful "twist" filled rewrite of the OT that winds up being just a soulless rehash of the soulless rehash that was TLJ, likely with Luke being killed by a now super duper evil Vader who then snokes the emperor just so that they can end the rebortion trilogy with Rey and her loyal apprentice Leia killing Super Sithian Vader on the Extermination Star or....oh fuck this the possibilities are too cancerous to contemplate
Fortunately Solo flopped, which scared them off recasting the original characters. I expect they're going to try and lean into the High Republic as the halcyon days of heckin' validity, and if that doesn't work, try a time skip to the post-ST era to re-roll. OFC they'll never address the actual problems, like lack of stakes or compelling villains. (Imagine how much better Ashoka would have been if Sabine had died like she should have.)
 
Given how Rebels flatlined in view count by the end, and both Bad Batch and Asoka did horribly, I think it might just be due to Clone Wars delusions at this point.
How long has the Bad Batch been dragged out since the first episode was broadcast? Wasn't it announced over a year ago, if not longer? It doesn't speak well of the Bad Batch or other SW content if it the episode releases were dragged out to milk as much fan nostalgia and engagement as possible only to have fans react lukewarmly at best apart from the SW consumers who would watch anything with the franchise label attached to it. There also comes a point where there's only so much story that can be told in a certain span of time - such as the Clone Wars era - before it gets repetitive, boring, or starts to step on/contradict itself. Sadly, Disney doesn't care about that part.

Timing of releases seems to be one of Disney's biggest issues since acquiring Star Wars. They will either release a lot of content at once or drag it out at a slower rate if and when they want to tease fans with older favorite characters who now have Disney-edited personalities. Their quantity over quality attitude certainly hasn't done them any favors, either. Even the decision to put most of the content on their pay streaming service has backfired in the sense that many people simply don't want to pay ever increasing monthly fees for that when streaming was originally touted as a low or no-cost alternative that has become no difference than regular cable service.

Hmmm.... What about Ki Adi Mundi and Aayla Secura?
Plo Koon also died on screen in Episode III if I recall unless that was retconned to reflect Ahsoka's relationship with him as she grew up.
 
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The youngling kids.
Only evidence is low-rez poor quality video. In the middle of the Jedi temple, home of the Jedi Archives the most complete set of records? I think not. I mean, one way to hide manipulations and splices would be to tone down the resolution and introduce noise. That's the sort of thing one would do if some [[[organization]]] was trying to paint itself the victim. Millions of Jedi cry out and then are silenced as they strike you.

Also, need I remind the the person killing those younglings is one [[[Anakin Skywalker]]] - a Jedi & member of the Jedi council. The sort of Jedi that Darth Vader was there to stop.

The [[[masters of information]]] have successfully manipulated into believing that cultist killing children to "save them" before Republic forces could rescue them from the incel cult's brainwashing.

Hmmm.... What about Ki Adi Mundi and Aayla Secura?
Two incels fragged by the troops they had been leading into suicidal assaults against droids because said troops had enough of being lead into battle by aliens with the only qualification being "hasn't had sex in a while". Hardly an "order 66"

Plo Koon also died on screen in Episode III if I recall unless that was retconned to reflect Ahsoka's relationship with him as she grew up.
"killed on screen". Lifeday Nonsenstivie please. His fighter was shot down during active dogfight with the enemy, but the camera cut away. When Master Filoni's next masterpiece features him post the supposed Order 66 alive and well, having ejected safely, you're going to feel really dumb.
I figure this one might actually need some explanation: Ol' Wolfucker Dave has a hard on for Plo Koon and he's very clearly going to be the next character to comeback, especially given the plausible deniability of just having his fighter explode but he made it out. Darth Maul survived bisection afterall. Force healing and force featherfall are about to be added to his canonical powers
 
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This gave me a real fuckin bleak idea of what disney might try in desperation to keep the shit train rolling

What if they straight up pull a JJ Abrams Trek and "reboot" the original trilogy with Rey having gone back in time to save Alderaan or some shit and wound up inadvertently changing a bunch of shit so whatever hack they hire to write can shit out some godawful "twist" filled rewrite of the OT that winds up being just a soulless rehash of the soulless rehash that was TLJ, likely with Luke being killed by a now super duper evil Vader who then snokes the emperor just so that they can end the rebortion trilogy with Rey and her loyal apprentice Leia killing Super Sithian Vader on the Extermination Star or....oh fuck this the possibilities are too cancerous to contemplate
Nah, that'd be too interesting.
 
Disney's big push will likely be in trying to shove High Republic down your throat and look surprised when it flops like the books did, even with billions blown on them. The other option is to hyper commit to Dave's fuck-awful fanfic where they steal more random EU plots but with Asoka and a few others. Likely with more desperate flashbacks with Hayden due to their botnets being prepped to feed the memberberries to the reply guys.

Most likely going to be those two, maybe with a "live action clone wars" as a last desperate gasp.
Plo Koon also died on screen in Episode III if I recall unless that was retconned to reflect Ahsoka's relationship with him as she grew up.
Oh they don't give a rotten shit. They've had characters like Cad Bane and the Grand Inquisitor visibly shot in a lethal way on camera, blown out organs and all, and they still came back.

No one's ever really gone since Dave's a shittier writer than Rowling.
 
Unpopular opinion: I liked Cad Bane, especially when not being written directly by Wolfucker.
He's the bastard child of Boba Fett and The Bad Lee Van Cleef, and even a total mong can take the 'Zero Scruples only loyal to money Gun-for-Hire' archetype and write something entertaining, but I still dig the character from what I've seen. He's also not a fucking human so bonus points for being a fucking Alien in Star Wars.
 
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Unpopular opinion: I liked Cad Bane, especially when not being written directly by Wolfucker.
He's the bastard child of Boba Fett and The Bad Lee Van Cleef, and even a total mong can take the 'Zero Scruples only only to money Gun-for-Hire" archetype and write it correctly, but I still dig the character from what I've seen. He's also not a fucking human so bonus points for being a fucking Alien in Star Wars.
You know what's weird, I've been thinking about Cad Bane a lot lately. Completely unprompted. He's honestly not bad, I appreciate him as a cool bounty hunter that's not another fucking Mando. We had a good thing going when he was an antagonist. A step towards my dream of a major villain being a pirate or an underworld boss and not another fucking Sith Lord.
 
No one's ever really gone since Dave's a shittier writer than Rowling.
Dave Filoni vs Matt Ward vs Karen Traviss. Who's worse?

Unpopular opinion: I liked Cad Bane, especially when not being written directly by Wolfucker.
He's the bastard child of Boba Fett and The Bad Lee Van Cleef, and even a total mong can take the 'Zero Scruples only only to money Gun-for-Hire" archetype and write it correctly, but I still dig the character from what I've seen. He's also not a fucking human so bonus points for being a fucking Alien in Star Wars.
He's a character Lucas created. Filoni could never create a villain as memorable as him. Especially since Bane actually wins now and then, whereas the closest thing Filoni has to a villain winning is Nu-Thrawn failing to kill Ahsoka and some kids but acting like he won anyways. Cad also is very stylish; I remember him tossing that detonator into a room full of senate guards then tipping his hat at them before they all blew up. He gets points for being a gentleman despite the fact that he's a murderous bastard.

You know what's weird, I've been thinking about Cad Bane a lot lately. Completely unprompted. He's honestly not bad, I appreciate him as a cool bounty hunter that's not another fucking Mando. We had a good thing going when he was an antagonist. A step towards my dream of a major villain being a pirate or an underworld boss and not another fucking Sith Lord.
What do you think about Tyber Zann?
 
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You know what's weird, I've been thinking about Cad Bane a lot lately. Completely unprompted. He's honestly not bad, I appreciate him as a cool bounty hunter that's not another fucking Mando. We had a good thing going when he was an antagonist. A step towards my dream of a major villain being a pirate or an underworld boss and not another fucking Sith Lord.

I think part of the problem with Cad was Furlonely never got above "Conflict with Villains in 80's 30 minute toy commercials Cartoons" in his writing skills. So especially when Wolfucker has the reigns, all the enemies have dubious objectives and get undone in stupid and unsatisfying ways, often only a step above pure Deus Ex Machina, to anyone over the age of 7.

But as an unaligned 3rd party, every now and then Cad gets out a win. And you of course get a few team ups with the good guys. Its low teir bait but I'm a sucker for a good villain/hero team up.

Filoni could never create a villain as memorable as him. Especially since Bane actually wins now and then, whereas the closest thing Filoni has to a villain winning is Nu-Thrawn failing to kill Ahsoka and some kids but acting like he won anyways. Cad also is very stylish;
Yeah, I appreciate that Cad (when not overly controlled by wolf fucker)
A) is actually smart with actual plans and not just straight moronically evil.
B) some times pulls out a win
C) puts some fucking flair into what he does.
D) Actual alien in goddamn star wars, imagine that

And given he has no real beef with the republic/jedi (beyond making his job harder), it makes sense why he doesn't just execute the main characters when he has the upper hand or leaves people alive he doesn't need to kill.

Again, the its not like the archetype is super unique its basically just sci-fi Lee Van Cleef in blueface, but it still works.
 
I think part of the problem with Cad was Furlonely never got above "Conflict with Villains in 80's 30 minute toy commercials Cartoons" in his writing skills. So especially when Wolfucker has the reigns, all the enemies have dubious objectives and get undone in stupid and unsatisfying ways, often only a step above pure Deus Ex Machina, to anyone over the age of 7.
Dave is good for writing cartoons for kids, which is why Rebels' was far more childish than TCW ever was.

But as an unaligned 3rd party, every now and then Cad gets out a win. And you of course get a few team ups with the good guys. Its low teir bait but I'm a sucker for a good villain/hero team up.
Cad was interesting in TCW, especially since most characters in it, even the Hutts, fell into one side or the other, yet Bane managed to stay independent; he technically worked for the Hutts, a Republic ally, yet his jobs still got him in conflict with the Jedi, and he even worked with the Separatists openly. His work with Sidious showed how far he can go, both morally, and as an operator.

Yeah, I appreciate that Cad (when not overly controlled by wolf fucker)
A) is actually smart with actual plans and not just straight moronically evil.
B) some times pulls out a win
C) puts some fucking flair into what he does.
D) Actual alien in goddamn star wars, imagine that

And given he has no real beef with the republic/jedi (beyond making his job harder), it makes sense why he doesn't just execute the main characters when he has the upper hand or leaves people alive he doesn't need to kill.

Again, the its not like the archetype is super unique its basically just sci-fi Lee Van Cleef in blueface, but it still works.
Cad was in his best when he operated like a military professional, like how Rogue Squadron and the 501st Legion operated; with objectives and means to get to those objectives. In Book of Boba Fatt, he was just a glorified thug to parade around, but when Lucas was still there, he was as professional as any intelligence operative or mercenary can be. Lucas still had a bit of that passionate young man that he used to be, so he wasn't afraid to give a villain a win or have him torture or massacre good guys now and then. Slaughtering Senate Commandos like they were chumps, killing a Jedi in interrogation, torturing children like Ahsoka, even planning and executing the kidnapping of a head of state, the man was as brutal and effective as he can be. He was a Swiss army knife with style, whenever the plot lets him shine.

It's a big contrast as to how Thrawn was portrayed; the plot practically holds him back, prevents him from going all-out, and yet when he's trounced, he still goes ''just as planned'' like some bargain-basement Light Yagami. People took Cad Bane seriously because he could prove he was dangerous. People mocked Nu-Thrawn because fucking kids keep beating him and yet we're supposed to still be scared of him. Thrawn isn't allowed by the plot to score a decisive win, just some wins where it doesn't really affect the good guys. If Thrawn was allowed to be as dangerous as Cad, Phoenix Squad would all get slaughtered, or captured and tortured by the Empire, unable to break out in some dark dungeon. The story would be over.

It's funny; both of them are blue-faced alien villains with red eyes, yet Cad is handled with more grace and effectiveness in animation than Thrawn is. Mostly because Lucas was still there in TCW, whereas Filoni had full control of Rebels.

If I were Mon Mothma in Ahsoka, I wouldn't be afraid of this Thrawn returning. I'd welcome it so that we can have someone to gang up on and give the New Republic some semblance of unity. But if TCW Bane showed up, I'd send fucking Luke Skywalker to take the man's head.
 
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