Assassin's Creed thread

[Snekposter]

One of the biggest importers of nigger worship is America. Its their religion.

Nations need to not just reject the 3rd worlders, but American media and people must be kept out of nations. They will force this on you whilst decrying you for losing your nations identity and heritage.

America is the nigger virus patient zero, reject everything from them.

Listen asshole, Ubisoft is run by the fucking Frogs. You can't pin this shit on us.

Evil Templar chuds. Since they went full retard and are gonna turn Nobunaga into a heckin' proto-Marxist BBC-loving TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANS ally, who the fuck are gonna be the bad guys? The original concept they had for a game set in Japan made so much more fucking sense for Nobunaga and Hideyoshi to be the evil Templar chuddenheimers and Tokugawa to be the heckin' Assassinerino given that one of his retainers was Hattori Hanzo, y'know the MOST FAMOUS SHINOBI IN HISTORY? It's such a no brainer to make an Iga ninja be the main character. Even someone whose knowledge of the period starts and stops at the Samurai Warriors series of games could've scored such an easy layup. How are they gonna explain the fact that Nobunaga conquered the Iga province after his retard son fucked it up royally? Keep in mind that the samurai families from Iga basically had their own semi-autonomous confederation which functioned similarly to a heckin' democracy, another reason why the original concept for a Japanese AC was such a damn no brainer.

Shit, the Ikko Ikki would have been a great for Assassins too. They were some monks, merchants, and other randos who started killing off a bunch of lords and setting up peasant communes all over Japan simply because they were really fucking tired of the constant shenanigans from the samurai. Even had a bunch of kickass mountaintop monastery fortresses that took Nobunaga years to finally wipe out. Plus they had a motto only an Assassin could love: "He who advances is sure of salvation, but he who retreats will go to hell."

And that's before we get into the white robes Buddhist monks were fond of, including white face wraps. An Ikko Ikki sect of Assassins would be viewed very much as a return to tradition.

 

[samuraicrack]

Lotta copium on Twitter lately

https://x.com/NasuPrime/status/1792062860539125982

 

[Übertroon]

I thought this game is going to bomb?
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Damage control, they also claimed hi fi rush was a massive success, then shuttered the studio a year later.
Modern video game industry is all smokes and mirrors

 

[ENDTOPII]

Because fucking normies are pre-ordering without seeing any fucking gameplay. God forbid they exercise some self-control.

I'm going to drop a schizo take: The sales numbers are fake, or self induced somehow. Think it as "selling digital copies to a store counts as official sales" numbers, I don't know shit about how it works, but with so much fake shit related to things like this nowadays, it could just be a meme they made up to try manufacturing a fake consensus that "people are buying it chud!".

Or maybe I'm the one coping that there are retards and niggers actually paying for this.

 

[whogoesthere]

Or maybe I'm the one coping that there are retards and niggers actually paying for this.

Your not and its been going on for years now. I mean record sales got exposed as fake in the 80s and people still act like they are real some 40 years later.

If you want to see if any media company is doing well, just look to how its acts. UBIsoft is currently in financial crisis, and has been looking for some easy money. UBI is famous for avoiding selling too many of its shares, and it hates Tenncent or at least enough at the top still hate it. But they are hurting for money and have been desperate for an injection for a few years now. Does that sound like the actions of a company that is selling well? no, its been struggling for a while. Siege and a few other titles that are years old and cooling down have been keeping the lights on for years now. Assassins Creed as a series has been struggling for years now.

If anyone claims some market gay shit is proof they are doing well, just point out the many times the market reporting shit like Enron doing fantastic, or the million other times companies have done shit like that.

 

[ENDTOPII]

Your not and its been going on for years now. I mean record sales got exposed as fake in the 80s and people still act like they are real some 40 years later.

If you want to see if any media company is doing well, just look to how its acts. UBIsoft is currently in financial crisis, and has been looking for some easy money. UBI is famous for avoiding selling too many of its shares, and it hates Tenncent or at least enough at the top still hate it. But they are hurting for money and have been desperate for an injection for a few years now. Does that sound like the actions of a company that is selling well? no, its been struggling for a while. Siege and a few other titles that are years old and cooling down have been keeping the lights on for years now. Assassins Creed as a series has been struggling for years now.

If anyone claims some market gay shit is proof they are doing well, just point out the many times the market reporting shit like Enron doing fantastic, or the million other times companies have done shit like that.

Music industry tangent:
Music labels used to buy their own CD's for their bigger artists if the sales tanked a little, just to give the illusion that they are "the biggest" so that radio stations and concert organizers would think they are the "top artists" for future gigs and marketing leverage (and potentially new artists from the same said label to be shilled more easily). Spotify and Apple music has been struggeling a lot with fake plays (from labels, not artists) due to a similar situation with the CD's.

Back to gaming:
We know about fake player counts that occurs on Steam (LMAO, TF2), now Valve doesn't really care, but they at least gave an UI for us to watch the shitshow. Not other service does this, and I honestly think it's because they want to hide that their games are dead. Maybe Ubi is going to shit financially.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

Even if the pre-order numbers are completely legitimate, all I'm seeing is shit about the PS5. What other titles are there to even pre-order on that machine? More third-person narrative walking simulators about lesbians? It's like being #1 at the Special Olympics.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Shit, the Ikko Ikki would have been a great for Assassins too. They were some monks, merchants, and other randos who started killing off a bunch of lords and setting up peasant communes all over Japan simply because they were really fucking tired of the constant shenanigans from the samurai. Even had a bunch of kickass mountaintop monastery fortresses that took Nobunaga years to finally wipe out. Plus they had a motto only an Assassin could love: "He who advances is sure of salvation, but he who retreats will go to hell."

And that's before we get into the white robes Buddhist monks were fond of, including white face wraps. An Ikko Ikki sect of Assassins would be viewed very much as a return to tradition.

This sounds based as hell, thanks for a new faction I can history-dive into. I’m curious about the “will go to hell” line. I thought Japan (especially at the time) hated western religious concepts. Does Japanese religious thought(s) have a similar underworld/Tartarus/Hades/Hell concept? I know they have Yokai/Oni as demons concepts.

That motto could’ve led the AC Japan promotion campaign if they weren’t total French-ggots.

I'm going to drop a schizo take: The sales numbers are fake, or self induced somehow. Think it as "selling digital copies to a store counts as official sales" numbers, I don't know shit about how it works, but with so much fake shit related to things like this nowadays, it could just be a meme they made up to try manufacturing a fake consensus that "people are buying it chud!".

Or maybe I'm the one coping that there are retards and niggers actually paying for this.

Once I saw it was PS5 pre-orders being championed I knew it was copium XL. PS5 isn’t going that great over there, so that doesn’t give a good picture of Japanese gamer’s opinions. It’s also possible this could move past their gaming community if it gets large enough their history/academic community steps in to correct the record.

It’s also funny they don’t apply the same standards of “Westerners could be leaving comments and dislike”, cool I agree, but the same can be said of the 10k posts from Japanese Twitter you keep promoting as “they love it!”.

 

[Metamorpho]

I don't know about Suicide Squad KTJL having high pre-order sales. But meanwhile on Amazon Japan. This may be worth investigating if Ubisoft is taking shortcuts on buying their own games just to show that it's number one.
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Meanwhile, this Japanese user is pretty much done with woke games. Surprisingly the tweets have over 20 million views.
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Found this, if I find more then I'll post it here

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

Does Japanese religious thought(s) have a similar underworld/Tartarus/Hades/Hell concept? I know they have Yokai/Oni as demons concepts.

I'm not super-versed in most of it, but I belive Shinto has Yomi, which is a general "land of the dead" underground sort of plane similar to Hades. The Ikko-Ikki were Buddhist, and that has multiple different planes that would be analagous to Hell, called Narakas. The motto on the page for the Ikko-Ikki links to the latter.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

true justice would have Japan attempt to sue/put pressure on Ubisoft for their pushing of Yasuke as being central to the Sengoku Jidai

Suing for what? For creating fiction? Good luck with that.

 

[That Chris Guy]

Suing for what? For creating fiction? Good luck with that.

Never said it had to actually win. Like I said in the part you didn't quote, it's how China got EA to back off on creating fiction with them as the villains.

Regardless. I'm still cynical as to whether sales will be affected. The last three games all had some form of bastardisation of history in play and they continued unabated. I'm fine with key players being shuffled around, but silly demographics like throwing in Black vikings everywhere and being so triggered by historical artifacts that you deface them bothers me.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

it's how China got EA to back off on creating fiction with them as the villains.

And that's good because...?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

So I do, from seeing you all poast, think they've probably really fucked up the potential of the setting. Again, I don't give a fuck about Yasuke being the co-protagonist (remember, the other one is an Iga ninja), but that Hattori Hanzo (?) character someone mentioned sounds like they would have been more fitting. Or, fuck, they could have had both.

But yeah, as someone who probably knows less on average about this stuff than you all, my thinking is:

Ikko Ikki would have been a fantastic candidate for an Assassins-sided faction, what with the anti-samurai stance and the Buddhism (Ubislop is always le enlightened fedora non-theists against the eeeeevil theist tyrants, and yeah Buddhism has gods, but that's not how ignorant Westerners see it).

The Jesuits NEED to be a villain. Perhaps the Church isn't always Templar-controlled, but with the Templars and the Borgia pope, with the idea of a society of missionaries trying to worm their way into another society to spread their very institutional ideology, it fits way too well for the Jesuits to NOT be the evil masterminds. Note that I'm just saying what I think fits well into the series existing identity, although I don't like Catholicism I'm definitely pro-kirishitan vs the shitbag Shinto-Buddhists in real life.

All samurai were bastards. All of them. Japan was an evil civilization. I don't think there should be a "good" samurai faction. Oda is a bastard. Tokugawa is a bastard.

So yeah, I'd have spun some story about William Adams (pirate), maybe some Ikko Ikki ronin and the Iga girl at the middle of a multisided conspiracy where the Ikko Ikki are good, the Jesuits are bad, and the samurai clans are all just different flavors of bad fighting each other.

Actually, something I haven't heard anybody say. Is there any lore on why the Assassins and Templars exist in Japan? That may be another reason why they wanted to use an outsider. Except, again, William Adams is a much more interesting character for that than Yasuke...

 

[Übertroon]

All samurai were bastards. All of them. Japan was an evil civilization.

Sounds like someone is upset about Nobunaga being a little too based.

 

[gay]

reminded myself that Yasuke was in Nioh (as the "Obsidian Samurai" boss), and that the game (and by extent the Japanese devs) are also pretty wishy-washy about him being a samurai as well (second picture is a cutscene saying he was in fact given the title of samurai merely seconds after saying he didn't, lolwut).

mind you that William Adams and Yasuke never actually met IRL and that Nioh is to be taken just about as seriously as AC in terms of historical accuracy (that's to say, not at all).

 

[Snekposter]

Does Japanese religious thought(s) have a similar underworld/Tartarus/Hades/Hell concept?

As @Mr.Miyagi mentioned they did believe in various "hells" as part their reincarnation beliefs with a soul being punished in them for their sins before being sent elsewhere after its karma had been sufficiently cleansed. Some were better than others, but none of them were particularly nice. One of them was even so fucking cold your body would freeze and crack apart into chunks, exposing your insides to all of that.

Here's one of the hot underworlds:

1. Sañjīva (等活), the "reviving" Naraka, has ground made of hot iron heated by an immense fire. Beings in this Naraka appear fully grown, already in a state of fear and misery. As soon as the being begins to fear being harmed by others, their fellows appear and attack each other with iron claws and hell guards appear and attack the being with fiery weapons. As soon as the being experiences an unconsciousness like death, they are suddenly restored to full health and the attacks begin again. Other tortures experienced in this Naraka include: having molten metal dropped upon them, being sliced into pieces, and suffering from the heat of the iron ground. It is said to be 1,000 yojanas beneath Jambudvīpa and 10,000 yojanas in each direction (a yojana being 7 miles, or 11 kilometres).

If that ain't something close to the Christian hell, I don't know what is. Its also probably where you'd wind up if you ran from battle on account of what triggers the punishment, the Ikko Ikki being especially metal with their ideals and believing the ground itself would swallow you up and drag you down there in an instant if you turned tail.

Oda is a bastard.

You could absolutely have a kickass story about an Ikko Ikki-Iga alliance against Nobunaga. For those unaware, that man was so stereotypically Templar in his actual historical behavior it isn't funny. He was going to unify Japan and bring order to its chaos, even if he had to burn the place down to ash in order to do so. Having the Jesuits induct him into the Japanese Rite of the Templars and back him in that quest would be very fitting, especially he was a notorious Westaboo. And naturally, his end would be extremely fitting for a game based around assassinations, the man betrayed by one of his own closest retainers when he least expected it, protected by only a small token force. Ultimately nobody knows exactly why Akechi did it, and most ominously Nobunaga's body was never found.

 

[Mega Black]

Valhalla supposedly made one billion dollars in a single year and that game was...well

There's a few things, I think, that helped. It was marketed as having features missing from Origins and Odyssey to appeal to old fans, but it also came out at the absolute peak of Viking shit hype. They're running for that same sort of high with this, trying to make something that comes out as samurai stuff is gaining traction, but i dont know if its going to hit quite as hard.

You also have Ghost of Tsushima out that ate most of Ubisoft's lunch. That's stiff competition.

I think they'll make all their money back with Micro transactions, though.

 

[Snekposter]

You also have Ghost of Tsushima out that ate most of Ubisoft's lunch. That's stiff competition.

I'm playing that right now and the quality level between that and Ubislop is night and day.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

I'm playing that right now and the quality level between that and Ubislop is night and day.

I'm usually not one for open-world games these days, but I've been giving Tsushima a shot, and it's great. Probably one of the better examples of the genre. Looks good, sounds good, plays well. Really love the Standoff mechanic.