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- Dec 17, 2022
Then the cops demand the door code. Nick says no, and tells them they're gonna have to do a dynamic entry.
For some inexplicable reason Sean says "good" as to the last part.
Anyways, they go dynamic. Now you got people on both sides talking about how traumatic that must have been for kids.
As far as I'm concerned, the Kandiyohi County Sheriff's Department did not traumatize Nick's kids. If the kids were traumatized by what they did, NICK FORCED THAT SITUATION!
Aside from the fact Nick shouldn't have all that shit in the house in the first place, a reasonable person, ESPECIALLY a lawyer, would realize that with a warrant, they are gaining access one way or another (a point Sean seemingly agrees with), and that just punching in the door code would avoid a lot of unpleasantness for the kids
Sorry Sean, but that part really irritated me. I'm critical of the police at times too, but this total "fuck the po-po, never give 'em an inch" crap seems little different than Nick's gay "ODD."
You've been around for awhile, so you probably already know this... and here I am typing anyway:
Sean, like many others, are thinking of Nick in terms of how they would advise their client. A lawyer's primary concern isn't based in morality, and not even in the law really, much less the "spirit" of the law. Their interests are inherently self serving as it extends to their client's needs and their job is essentially to argue to make things go their way. This is why we are seeing such hypocrisy and other... slip ups(?) in character like Kurt "resenting" the pastor who acted as a mandatory reporter. Self-interest is at the heart of what they do and they care more about their client/friend Nick than his family as evidenced by their behavior to this point.
Although it can be depressing, it isn't surprising that any "based" lawyer whose modus operandi is not to cooperate with law enforcement in any way could sometimes find themselves in opposition to laws that are meant to protect other people (children included).
Sean isn't wrong, legally.
Confused. Are you (or Sean) actually asserting that not allowing the police entry when they have a valid warrant is the correct thing to do legally? Non-compliance of this kind seems unnecessary and more detrimental all around.
For example, while it may not be wise to speak with the police, physical compliance (pulling over in your car and providing license/registration, opening the trunk of your vehicle, getting on the ground with your hands behind your head, sobriety tests, etc.) seems like the better option... unless they want the police to apply force (as in this case).
There will be time for arguments and technicalities later in the courtroom.