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[Yamamura]

See, I can do that too!

I bet I can outhaul a Wuling Xi Ping Pong Ching with my Little Tikes car. Mini EVs and Cargo bikes are for redditors with fragile egos. Nobody really NEEDS a mini EV.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

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Yup that's right. Before evil, evil cars got their claws in the cities, you could walk right down the middle of any road and it'd be fine, because no carriages or carts or other animal-drawn conveyances would trample you underfoot. It'd be fine. Pedestrian paradise.

Actual history:

Don't forget that roads were also built as a sanitation measure. The animals would shit all over street and humans would dump their waste there too, so even if it was safe from trampling you wouldn't want to walk there anyway. Not to mention the raised sidewalks turn streets into shallow canals that help control the the flow of rainwater to drainage areas to prevent flooding.

No one is cross shopping a side by side with an actual truck because the only people buying side by sides are hunters and farmers wanting a smaller off-road utility vehicle with being street legal a bonus and not a requirement. I would go buy a kei truck today if they could be registered in my state. Since my usage would mirror theirs in Japan, a light duty truck for short urban trips.

The side by side has a well established niche as an off road utility vehicle and as a recreation vehicle. Aside from protectionism holding the Kei back, what market would they appeal to? Kei trucks are handy because in Japan (and other Asian cities) they have a lot of narrow streets and alleys that makes a tiny truck vital for servicing hard to reach places. America doesn't really have that problem so the Kai wouldn't have anything special going for it (other than maybe cheaper). With that said why not go with a small SUV? You can move cargo AND people, not to mention they will be a lot safer than a Kai if you get in an accident.

 

[quaawaa]

Hacker News member thinks that Amtrack can carry airplane parts:

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[FILTH Tourist]

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Adoph is such a special breed of retard that he has to be trolling. Especially the last bit about how not using trains for cargo is somehow Boeing hating public transportation.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Hacker News member thinks that Amtrack can carry airplane parts:

I don't understand this. Lots of cargo is hauled on train lines in the US, so much in fact that Amtrak gets delays because (in practice) they don't have right of way over the lines, freight traffic does. It's inaccurate to say this is "using Amtrak" though.

Especially the last bit about how not using trains for cargo is somehow Boeing hating public transportation.

Arguably, planes ARE public transportation. Urbanists just hate them because muh emissions.

 

[Bonesjones]

You could also buy a Ford Maverick which is legal in all 50 states and is much safer, faster, and not that much more expensive or larger.

If I was cross shopping anything it would be a small light duty truck they stopped making 20 years ago, like an S10. Which is another false metric they use to ban vehicles,

The side by side has a well established niche as an off road utility vehicle and as a recreation vehicle. Aside from protectionism holding the Kei back, what market would they appeal to?

To anyone who wants a small light duty truck as a second or third vehicle. They are plenty capable of doing stuff like carrying a yard or two of soil for a garden or furniture or kayaks. There's plenty of things trucks can do that SUVs can also do just not quite as well. As someone who lives in the deep south, an enclosed cockpit with A/C is about the most important thing you can have.

Kei trucks are handy because in Japan (and other Asian cities) they have a lot of narrow streets and alleys that makes a tiny truck vital for servicing hard to reach places. America doesn't really have that problem so the Kai wouldn't have anything special going for it (other than maybe cheaper). With that said why not go with a small SUV? You can move cargo AND people, not to mention they will be a lot safer than a Kai if you get in an accident.

That's why people want them because they are cheap and nothing else fills the niche. I doubt anyone in the USA would want one for a daily driver (although plenty of people daily drive Miatas and they are pretty close in size). Again it's perfect for a once in a while vehicle that you aren't going to put but a few thousand miles or less on in a year. They also take up barely any space when not in use, which is always handy.

I think the real question is why are they being intentionally targeted for removal.

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Trains do send mail and light freight on passenger planes, just like airports do. Most freight trains are sending non-perishable goods. Things like Coal and Aggragate going to factories all over the continent, it doesn't matter how long it takes to ship since they get scheduled deliveries every day from 20 different places.

 

[DavidS877]

I don't understand this. Lots of cargo is hauled on train lines in the US, so much in fact that Amtrak gets delays because (in practice) they don't have right of way over the lines, freight traffic does. It's inaccurate to say this is "using Amtrak" though.

And strangely enough, Boeing also sends aircraft parts by rail.
Sometimes with hilarious consequences.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2014/07/05/train-derailment-spills-boeing-737-fueslages-into-river/12258639/

https://archive.ph/Loooh

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Most freight trains are sending non-perishable goods

If you're talking foodstuffs, trains carry grains and similar stuff (so milled sugar) as well as some vegetable oils, but little else.

At one time raw milk was transported by train, but not anymore.

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

For a bunch of people who whine about externalities all the time and advocate for internalizing them by taxing everything, you’d think they’d recognize parking minimums as a way of internalizing the externalities caused by not providing sufficient parking.

Lol, we had a local example of that the other week, where the trash media was running an article about 'not enough street parking' and let it slip it was the 'eco car free' apartment complex in the city, that they were all spruiking when it was being built about 10 years ago, that had fought against the council and won an exemption in a tribunal have no parking , because they would provide 'bike parking and a free yearly transit pass' to residents.

Exactly the shit urbanists want, and exactly what every sane person said would happen when you don't provide parking for an apartment complex.

 

[Bonesjones]

If you're talking foodstuffs, trains carry grains and similar stuff (so milled sugar) as well as some vegetable oils, but little else.

At one time raw milk was transported by train, but not anymore.

I was trying to think of the term "time insensitive" and that's as close as i got.

Another thing they leave out is noise, train noise is way louder than regular traffic and 18 wheelers. Also one train car carries about the same weight as 6 18-wheeler loads.

I love how for all their talk about how great trains are, when I took one down the Hudson Valley, I still needed to transfer using a cab to get to the airport. The one time it would be most useful.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

You could also buy a Ford Maverick which is legal in all 50 states and is much safer, faster, and not that much more expensive.

But, to be precise, incredibly homosexual (but not completely)

Also Amtrak used to carry some cargo including human remains. https://www.amtrak.com/express-shipping (apparently suspended lol)

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I was trying to think of the term "time insensitive" and that's as close as i got.

Another thing they leave out is noise, train noise is way louder than regular traffic and 18 wheelers. Also one train car carries about the same weight as 6 18-wheeler loads.

I love how for all their talk about how great trains are, when I took one down the Hudson Valley, I still needed to transfer using a cab to get to the airport. The one time it would be most useful.

Yeah, non-perishable is not a good word unless you're talking about food.

Union Pacific has put out a good page on various rail cars on what they carry. Of note, refrigerated boxcars are the "newest" on the fleet but I've never seen any, it sounds something more experimental than anything else, especially seeing how grocery distribution centers have either disconnected their rail lines or not built with them.

But, to be precise, incredibly homosexual (but not completely)

Also Amtrak used to carry some cargo including human remains. https://www.amtrak.com/express-shipping (apparently suspended lol)

Can't imagine why anyone would need that other than a special event. I mean, George H.W. Bush was the first President whose burial involved a train for the first time in fifty years, and used a one-of-a-kind boxcar with a glass door.

I wonder what the logistics is of putting an extra car on a train is. Why can't Amtrak carry freight loads? Why can't UP hook up an extra car if someone wants to go in the same direction as the train?

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Union Pacific has put out a good page on various rail cars on what they carry. Of note, refrigerated boxcars are the "newest" on the fleet but I've never seen any, it sounds something more experimental than anything else, especially seeing how grocery distribution centers have either disconnected their rail lines or not built with them.

I've seen some, and I think they're more intended for moving bulk quantities of food between warehouses/processing centers than to bring in food for grocery stores.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I've seen some, and I think they're more intended for moving bulk quantities of food between warehouses/processing centers than to bring in food for grocery stores.

Nah, never for stores. But the big warehouses that supply them, the ones that send out trucks within two hours, they don't have 'em anymore. It's 100% truck.

Looking at the chains here, the Tom Thumb distribution center (Safeway) in the Dallas area had one but was disconnected around the time they moved in, the Randalls distribution center in Houston never did. The Houston H-E-B DC had railroad tracks, but they're almost entirely paved over. Neither of the Kroger ones did, though their center in San Marcos (later bought by H-E-B) did, though that disappeared in the early 2000s.

Some food plants have spurs but I believe sugar is the main resource there (not refrigerated).

 

[IdiotPlusPlus]

Union Pacific has put out a good page on various rail cars on what they carry. Of note, refrigerated boxcars are the "newest" on the fleet but I've never seen any, it sounds something more experimental than anything else, especially seeing how grocery distribution centers have either disconnected their rail lines or not built with them.

They have been around for decades and are used for stuff like bulk Potato crops to food processing plants, I think Idaho would be UP territory so makes sense they have them.

Also nothing physical stopping adding freight to Amtrak or passengers to the Class 1's, the Class 1's just hate passengers and actually running their businesses apparently and Amtrak is not allowed to compete with them in most cases afaik.

 

[Glowie]

Whether you think cars are good or bad, it is undeniable these people are an embarrassment to be around. They think cars are the source of every single evil in the world today and have a fanatic devotion to abolishing them even when it doesn't make sense, akin to people who think Nazis are the universal source of evil and see Nazis around every corner. Like all mature Internet communities, they've developed a complete detachment to reality while being in a filter bubble so nothing and no one can change their minds, not that they'd ever want to. Enjoy!

Uncle Ted is rolling in his grave
These Internet, technology dependent are hypocrites, blind to their irony.
Champagne socialists waste money, resources and time of others bitch about social they make worse.

Soy neo-luddites. These people deserve to run their own communes, build infrastructure from ground up just to see clown show collapse. If these people who have problem problem with urban way of life, there are hectares worth of land which is capable of sustaining life and keep environment intact with anyone with basic knowledge biology, agriculture, environment. Hell dying wandering tribes of Africa make more convincing anti car and anti cycle. They don't need permanent settlements.

Reddit and urban slaves live lavish lifestyle, live in delusions, commit petty vandalism and never practicing what they preach, like joining Amish, live without technology, cars, cycles and you have to build your own house, get married and live without internet by extension reddit.

These people are born silver spoon in their mouth, bitch and NEVER work on solutions.

Lazy bitches.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

Jason is responsible for the widespread adoption of this mindset after multiple videos of his bemoaning traffic lights and stop signs.

I can't find it now but there was one he posted on TikTok that got hit with a warning that it displayed "potentially dangerous acts". He bitched about how biased and carbrained TikTok was and then took it down when he found out that it was him posting it with the hashtag "#redlightrunners" that caused the label.

in some countries, e.g. Bongland, it's also legitimately illegal - red lights apply to all road users, not just motorists, though the coppers are never around to enforce this when you need them
to be fair, cyclists where I've lived (South and West Yorkshire) are more mindful of this, and generally more road-wise, than those in London and the south

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I don’t know of a country that codifies bikes running red lights. I know some cucked cities have turned stop signs into yield signs for bikes (which is what they argue they do and how everyone treats it anyway).

 

[quaawaa]

Achtung! Amerikanischer Panzer!






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[quaawaa]

THEY'VE FOUND THE THREAD AGAIN:

First of all, we have 420 pages, not 140.

We are on the first page of Google search results:

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We don't watch enough of Jason. If we did, we'd all hate cars and love bikes:

Apparently we don't do any research:

Imagine agreeing with Kiwis:


Awww:

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Cyclists are gay (they said it, not me):

lol poor:

muh Big Auto:


We just can't imagine their utopia:

"We could build our own functioning city":

Another one who can't drive because of muh anxiety:

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