Their friendship hits the reader so hard that it can overflow into wanting to have them fuck.
I understand this, but more-so when it's a hostile rivalry. The absence of a fraternal bond makes it feel less incestuous, reading it as a man.
I totally get women seeing things this way, but it's a bad sign that men are starting to more and more. I'm obsessed with the interpersonal dynamics of the creative process, which is what motivates nearly all of my posting. I see all other serious interpersonal dynamics as reflective of the creative process.
As you've seen before, I think that the attitude that all other dynamics are grades downward from the sex drive is a disastrous product of our philosophical, historical, religious, and political circumstances.
It's like "cute aggression," where the puppy is just so adorable you have the momentary impulse to rend it to pieces, before the brain kicks in and correctly files the overflow.
This is alien to me; I've heard it described, though.
let everyone know how much you think these two dudes love each other (nonsexually) by having them make love (sexually). "Show don't tell," right?
This one's a little harder to wrap my head around, but I think I get it.
I don't think you can generalize women's perception of love by pointing at pooners.
How
can I generalize it? I'm looking for the fundamental mechanisms; I'm looking for the point of contact between men and women. More specifically, I'm looking for the granularity in a woman's consumption of a man. As explained in the next spoiler, men are able to consume one another granularly though individual aspects.
I'm curious about how women do this, if so; I suppose it's all holographically contained in the seed, so no need for granular aspects, but is a woman satisfied with that? Do men and women also have their form of competitive inter-communion, where the marital context levels the playing field (where normal competition in other contexts would be difficult or impossible due to strength or skill mismatches)?
Do women only get a partial praxeological (talent-exercise based) exposure of the man, and the seed compensates for the difference?
I know that homosexuals are obsessed with the seed (and phallus) of the man to a greater (or at least more depraved) degree than women, but in a purely symbolic sense (as the seed is dead for them). They're usually praxeologically confused or frustrated: more information in
another thread (I'll post an excerpt):
"Sexuality is an easy shortcut to exploit feelings of potency in the lizard-brain, side-stepping the need for sportsmanship altogether. Not all gay guys are incapable of sportsmanship (it's 2024 and people get groomed into all kinds of things, even auto-groomed; what are you gonna do) but the ones who are are going to get real pissy if the anal 'sex' cope is questioned."
This is relevant to the pooner thread, as I doubt that the pooners themselves understand how they may be isolating themselves by screwing with these dynamics.
This doesn't account for the large amount of RP/ERP/fanfiction where women are using canon characters.
I probably shouldn't have included that image. It occurs to me that it's not 1:1 related to the idea I'm trying to express, which has less to do with women's ability to roleplay as it does with the degree to which they're willing to put aside their embedded context in a collaborative setting. Also, if I had a barbie I wouldn't take her to the dream house; I'd make her the Joker. Maybe it's just that little girls don't want to play Batman.
What I'm talking about with the "sportsmanship" mindset is the difference between casual and serious engagement in "game-like" situations for men. Casual stuff is for socialization, but serious stuff is what socialization is for: to find collaborators towards accomplishing or reaching something external to yourselves. In a game, you're after "the perfect game"; that's why a close match is a "good game" as opposed to a one-sided blowout. You're essentially mining for a giant diamond, and the rules of the game are the quarry.
In that context, you can't bring identity or social context into it; being anything less than ruthless is a waste of everyone's time. Plus you're hiding a part of yourself (your strengths/teeth), which are revealed during the effort.
I don't think that women work in quite the same way, generally. They seem to be more oriented towards getting to the bottom of "people" rather than "things". I haven't read a lot of their fanfiction, but I doubt that they're writing about the technical specifications of the propulsion systems that the spaceships use. The two tendencies are complementary, and in my opinion women have the advantage in some respects—God is a Person, not a "thing".
There's more about this in the next spoiler.