Civvie 11 - Retro FPS Boomer

[IKOL]

Disgusting

Selaco means "I suck tranny dick while putting dog rod in my butt"

 

[Bag of Bones]

I haven't watched the last few Civvie videos, but I was cooking and this had come out like 10 minutes before so I gave it a watch. I can't say I've felt peeved watching a Civvie video until now. For some reason this video just feels so disingenuous, and I'm sure he truly loves the game, but he really is slobbing on their knob. He keeps reiterating certain points which kept irking me as well.

Spoiler: Did you know this game runs on the doom engine?!

Hey guys, did you know this game was made in the doom engine? Yeah that's right, the doom engine. THE FREAKIN DOOM ENGINE. Wow, I never would have known if someone didn't tell me 5 or 6 times. Not only do the devs deserve respect for making a good game, but for making one IN THE DOOM ENGINE. Why is he so fucking amazed that someone made a shooter in a heavily modified idTech 1 like people have been doing for over a decade?

He talks about it like it's so fucking archaic and awful to work with and the fact they did it is a testament to their skill, and while I'm sure the devs are skilled - looking at the game in a vacuum without taking into account politics and blah blah blah - the game does look quite nice and like it plays well. But it also doesn't do any 1 thing I haven't seen before in doom. Yeah, I've seen wads, mods, and total conversions that implement weapon upgrades, inventory systems, npc dialogue, journal entries, environmental damage, grenades, spreading fire, etc etc. So why is it so mind blowing for them to be in this game? It's like he's some boomer who hasn't played a single game since the original doom and is like "What?! You're telling me this is doom? Noooo! I didn't think this was even possible for computers, they would have done it back then if computers could do this, right?"

Like, cmon man. You've been playing shooters for years. Your job is literally to play them and talk about them and you're this amazed by what a modified idTech 1 can do in 2024? Games like Robotnik's Ring Racers runs on idTech 1 and that's a game you wouldn't expect to use it. Yet, a shooter on the engine made for shooters blows your mind? Again, just looking at the game and separating art from artist, it does look quite nice and like alot of love and care went into it by talented people, but to hype it up to the degree he does and act like the fact it's on the doom engine is the greatest feat in the history of what has been done with idTech.... cmon man.

Spoiler: The fight breakdown

The breakdown of how the fights in the game go down felt drawn out as well and him talking about how amazing all the environmental queues are and how flawlessly stuff is conveyed made me roll my eyes a bit. Again, yeah, nothing he said was untrue but at the same time, he acts like it's some mind blowing feat that he knew where an enemy was who shot at him despite him not seeing the enemy, because of the debris (not the glowing moving tracer shot though. I guess that didn't give him a hint.) Like, wow, I remember when I played Half-Life 2 and a Combine threw a grenade at me and I knew where he was despite not seeing him throw the nade behind me because of the red tracer light on the nade. My mind was blown and I couldn't stop thinking about it for years. Just kidding, that's just general good game design that's been being practiced for years. Oh you knew the enemy was coming because you heard them in the distance to your left? Yeah, enemies in doom never made noises, this is revolutionary.

I've seen doom players make videos breaking down hard combat puzzles and it's interesting. I've seen RTS and Quake players break down key moments of high impact decision making in duels and getting that insight is very interesting. But this is just him breaking down shit that is so obvious that most people just do it unconsciously. You only really pay attention to this shit when the game does it poorly. So congrats, you successfully made your point that the game has good fights and does many firefights very well. Nothing wrong with taking time to appreciate that and the attention to detail, but it just goes on and on and on.

It makes me remember his "Pro Doom" series where he talks about the enemies and their dynamics in fights and he mentions that it's all telegraphed well and makes such intuitive sense that over time, he doesn't even need to think about what he's doing, he just does it. You only really need to really slow down when a combat puzzle requiring some working out happens. So in doom it was just a couple of sentences addressing it, and here it's a whole fucking like 4 minutes or however long that section lasted.

I'm pretty good at separating art from artist, and I can look at the game objectively and say "yeah, I'd be down to give it a try, looks cool" but after seeing how one of the devs breaks down when fucking Yahtzee give some criticism in his fucking first impressions video series, and then seeing how much Civvie gushes about the game in a way that just feels... off compared to how he talks about other games he loves, I can't help but feel like everyone is trying to be extra special nice to the devs for some reason and it all just feels off. If there was tranny shit in the game before, I'd probably do my best to just ignore it, focus on the game, and I wouldn't really make any assumptions about the people who worked on it and I'd just try to play the game and view it on it's own merits. But seeing how off everything around this game seems to be when discussion about it pops up, it....just makes me feel weird. I don't know. Like, it's hard to ignore it all now even though I want to try to because of how off things feel around discussion about it.

 

[30+GameOvers]

But seeing how off everything around this game seems to be when discussion about it pops up, it....just makes me feel weird. I don't know. Like, it's hard to ignore it all now even though I want to try to because of how off things feel around discussion about it.

Dude genuinely got angry over some random tranny ad in his Manhattan Project video, so I can buy he's trying to lick up the puss from the stinkditch. He's an ultrasoyboy and he knows he has pull in the "boomer shooter" community so he would be stupid not to abuse it.

 

[Whatevermancer]

I'm not surprised at all, Civvie tends to overly praise the games that he likes. I don't think he hates trannies, but even if he did, would you really expect him to go "Yeah, the game is fun, but the devs are trannies, so don't buy it" and then lose his channel or something?

What I disapprove of, though, is the fact that devs tend to insert references to Youtube game reviewers into their games, it's like they're saying "hey man, we think you're cool, please promote our game". I think the right thing for the youtuber to do in this case is to refuse to review the game due to conflict of interests.

 

[Wodanaz]

saw a thread on /v/ mentioning this. creator stalking random youtuber's comment section. completely unhinged if this is really him.
link to channel

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

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saw a thread on /v/ mentioning this. creator stalking random youtuber's comment section. completely unhinged if this is really him.
link to channel

I remember leaving a comment asking why the blood is that color and getting just about the pissiest response you can imagine. At least the Hedon dev is pretty upfront about being an absolute freak.

 

[Cat tit bingo]

At least the Hedon dev is pretty upfront about being an absolute freak.

If I had to choose between someone who secretly wants to castrate children and some one openly into 8 foot tall muscular blue orc women with ginormous penises I'd choose the futa orc freak, I still wouldn't want to be within ten thousand feet of them it's just really hard to be more disgusting than a tranny who supports trooning out children.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

I have played Selaco chapter 1 all the way through. The combat is indeed great and yes getting the GZDoom engine to act and look like that is super impressive. But game of the year 2024? I disagree. You spend far too much time craving that combat when you are trying to navigate through what I can only describe as autstically elaborate maze-like and very samey levels. Some people like that, good on them, but plenty boomer shooter fans like myself who can take a bit of maze will still be put off by how disorienting advancing to the next area can be when the shooting is done. It creates a very strange tonal shift time and time again. If there was more visual distinction between areas this would be fine and you could savor it, but its kind of like being struck in office purgatory again and again.

I don't doubt Civvie really loves it, (and overall I myself like it) but for some reason or another it is being overly praised by him here. Its good but hardly 'magic' as it stands now. I am curious to see if the next chapters will be better or different or whatever.

 

[Wodanaz]

But game of the year 2024?

>youtubers unironically think a $25 early access doom clone that won't be "complete" for 3 years is Game of the Year
fucking actual clown world

 

[Mr. Duck]

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saw a thread on /v/ mentioning this. creator stalking random youtuber's comment section. completely unhinged if this is really him.
link to channel

I saw him on the comments section of Yahtzee's review of the game.

 

[Wodanaz]

I saw him on the comments section of Yahtzee's review of the game.
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this is a massive cope
or maybe its true. maybe he's only in this line of work so he can browbeat gamers whosec ritique he doesn't consider "valid"
well I'm glad you don't care about sales nigga! because you just sealed the deal on me never giving you a cent for your game!
time to sail the high seas!

 

[The Tall Man]

Don't really see why it matters, if the games are good.

Have you played it?
It's not good. The gameplay is mid at best, and it's ugly, filled with Reddit jokes and DIE propaganda. Everything that doesn't suck is a reference to a better game.
I have never seen art by a troon that was good.
You can see what a brainwashed faggot the dev is if something like this makes it into the game, and Larry Fink didn't even have to pay for it.

Why did the retro shooter scene had to be this incestuous and faggy, i just wanted to shoot things.

It's extra ultra gay because it used to be very edgy. The crybullies convinced the normies to get rid of the racists, and then normies gave them power because being "le evil racist" is bad. So the troons body-snatched everyone with that power.

I'm not surprised at all, Civvie tends to overly praise the games that he likes. I don't think he hates trannies, but even if he did, would you really expect him to go "Yeah, the game is fun, but the devs are trannies, so don't buy it" and then lose his channel or something?

If you take a minute and think about it, you know he is either lying to support troons or deluding himself into believing it's good because of troons.
He has played enough FPS games to know this is, at best, okay gameplay with an ugly art style.

I am convinced Civvie11 likes to slurp the rotting ooze out of the stinkditch.
He is just better than most at keeping his believes hidden.

 

[Fully Eshay Skits Bruh V4]

I can't help but feel like everyone is trying to be extra special nice to the devs for some reason and it all just feels off.

He has involvement in the game which he failed to disclose, he is included in the credits and even has a Easter egg dedicated to him.

 

[Beige]

I haven't watched the last few Civvie videos, but I was cooking and this had come out like 10 minutes before so I gave it a watch. I can't say I've felt peeved watching a Civvie video until now. For some reason this video just feels so disingenuous, and I'm sure he truly loves the game, but he really is slobbing on their knob. He keeps reiterating certain points which kept irking me as well.

Came to this thread to rant and see if anyone else felt this way, but you pretty much took all the words right out of my mouth. This whole video skeeved me out.

Selaco looks like a pretty good, really tightly-designed GZDoom game, but nothing about it design-wise struck me as amazing. And Civvie's acting like it's brilliant GOTY material because... it has lots of particle effects and good enemy feedback? Kind of impressive given the engine that's it's running on, but nothing that hasn't been done before in GZDoom, and nothing FPS games haven't been doing for almost two decades at this point. That whole firefight breakdown segment was the most pretentious bullshit he's ever put in a video.

I like Civvie, and watch everything he puts out, but I didn't finish watching this review. It felt like the whole time like he's trying to sell an 7.5-8/10 as an 11/10. Add some actually interesting weapons and a visual style that isn't straight-up DeviantArt, then we'll talk.

Not sure what his angle is, but I had a feeling this was going to happen way back when people found the tranny flag in a locker or whatever, way back when the demo came out.

 

[Douglas Mortimer]

I like Civvie, and watch everything he puts out, but I didn't finish watching this review. It felt like the whole time like he's trying to sell an 7.5-8/10 as an 11/10. Add some actually interesting weapons and a visual style that isn't straight-up DeviantArt, then we'll talk.

Not sure what his angle is, but I had a feeling this was going to happen way back when people found the tranny flag in a locker or whatever, way back when the demo came out.

Same here

I stopped watching about half way through as it felt so artificial. Honestly it doesn't even seem like one of his usual reviews at all. I guess he's another one who gets checked off the list to watch.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

this is a massive cope
or maybe its true. maybe he's only in this line of work so he can browbeat gamers whosec ritique he doesn't consider "valid"
well I'm glad you don't care about sales nigga! because you just sealed the deal on me never giving you a cent for your game!
time to sail the high seas!

I also doubt this excuse is true because they wouldn't be selling the game up front with such a push while still in early access unless they needed the money now to continue. They are treating early access like the main game, and the sections to follow as like its pre-bought expansion packs.

On the other hand, the dev is so prickly and self-searching it might be funny if he creates an account here to argue with us on the farms.

Edit to add:

A thought came to me that if the dev was this brittle more arguing in comments could be found elsewhere. So I went looking for non-laudatory Selaco reviews in a quick search. I found this one. I am not familiar with this channel so I cannot offer opinions on its general content, but he gave what seemed to me a very fair critique of the game that often lines up with my own. Not really negative, just mixed, overall still favorable. And lo and behold in the comments:

I feel like this dev team is worth keeping an eye on. The second someone drops an actually negative review they are going to absolutely wet the bed in public if this is how they behave to gentle ribbing.

 

[The tired cat]

It's extra ultra gay because it used to be very edgy. The crybullies convinced the normies to get rid of the racists, and then normies gave them power because being "le evil racist" is bad. So the troons body-snatched everyone with that power.

Name me a retro shooter that was edgy.

 

[The Tall Man]

Name me a retro shooter that was edgy.

Don't pretend to be retarded, you have posted about several in this thread yourself.
The Doom modding community is cucked because some faggots couldn't deal with people making funny stuff like the Moonman WAD, but you already know this.

 

[Lurkerish Kandor]

Anyone else getting tired of every indie FPS sucking civvie's dick

I'm sick of references and memes in my games in general. Doesn't matter if it's a 'thing I recognize' or a thing I enjoy or not, I'm getting fucked off with games breaking my immersion to shill youtubers or other videogames I've already played or have no interest in playing or to flex on what fucking wattpad fanfictions the devs are into.

Every time, it pulls me out of the game I'm playing and breaks my flow, and if I used an "out of ten" system it'd instantly tank at least one point.

While I'm having a mald about it, I'm tired of Gianni Matragrano being in everything, too. It's Steve Blum and Phil Lamarr and Tara Strong and Gray Griffin all over again.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Hey guys, did you know this game was made in the doom engine? Yeah that's right, the doom engine. THE FREAKIN DOOM ENGINE. Wow, I never would have known if someone didn't tell me 5 or 6 times. Not only do the devs deserve respect for making a good game, but for making one IN THE DOOM ENGINE. Why is he so fucking amazed that someone made a shooter in a heavily modified idTech 1 like people have been doing for over a decade?

I swear to god "made in the Doom engine" has become the new Boyhood:

And when the game is 400x the weight of the original title what's the fucking point beyond the meme? Heck once few coders a decade ago worked out the more complex issue of loading larger amount of weightier textures you probably lost most of the intricacies of using the engine.

I can't help but feel like everyone is trying to be extra special nice to the devs for some reason and it all just feels off

You are not allowed to "punch down" on indie devs, especially the tranny kind, it's a weird cult like behaviour that's divorced from reality.