Red Letter Media

[Tad Loaf]

The latest video was alright, can at least appreciate the sincere attempt to talk in good faith but the scene where they're trying to dunk on a guy for caring about Star Wars lore cause people are starving in the world came off really lacking in self awareness considering the very video it's in and their job is to just talk about movies, also one major point I think they miss out on when discussing people not liking politics in shows is how people have come to associate political talk with poor quality products, it's not purely a thing of "the product has politics, therefore bad" there is also a element of "All the marketing for this show is using leftist buzzwords and is actively just trying to have minorities in it, it will probably be shit because 95% of things that involve these have been shit over the last 15 years"

They talk about how Star Trek was the original diversity cast and yet can't realize people love that even though that's true because it was also just good, if that sort of trend kept up instead of nepotism/politics allowing shitty hiring practices and marketing tactics to take over, people wouldn't strongly associate "diversity" with "shit"

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

the scene where they're trying to dunk on a guy for caring about Star Wars lore cause people are starving in the world came off really lacking in self awareness considering the very video it's in and their job is to just talk about movie

You don’t see Mike or Rich Evan doing charity events to help world hunger.(Mike becoming fatter than Rich now. At least diet before you bitch about world hunger.) Even ignoring the white knighting corporations. This might be the video that turns RLM fans against them. Shitting on fans never turns out well in the long term. Friendship simulator only works if you don’t shit on your fans for having different views than you. Mike probably going to reach lulzcow status before AIDS Moby.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

It's ok, they destroyed Nukie tapes for charity!

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It's ok, they destroyed Nukie tapes for charity!

I never did get this joke. Is Nukie really as bad as they say? Because a lot of the movies they have seen are indeed garbage after they've shown us why they're bad movies.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

I never did get this joke. Is Nukie really as bad as they say? Because a lot of the movies they have seen are indeed garbage after they've shown us why they're bad movies.

It's pretty bad but nothing special. I remember a weird controversy when they did that stunt actually that they were encouraging destroying film history or some shit.

 

[DankSmoker]

It's pretty bad but nothing special. I remember a weird controversy when they did that stunt actually that they were encouraging destroying film history or some shit.

Wont all that VHS degrade soon anyways? I'm sure some lunatic has preserved Nukie for future generations.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

I did like the first two seasons of the Mandalorian but everything after that has been some form of crap and I haven't watched anything Disney Wars related in probably two years now. So, I've no interest in watching a 90 minute video on the latest Disney crap.

But it is always fun watching people shit themselves in rage over RLM's latest Star Wars opinion.

 

[Kulee Baba]

At one point Jay says something like "It's bad that we keep making it political because the shows are now pushing it to the forefront instead of making good entertainment."

But what if I just want to laugh at Disney ruining its Brand IP? Which clearly has happened no one is excited for Star Wars anymore. I find it funny at this point. And I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Lucasfilm gets shuttered or more likely retooled to work on other media properties outside of Star Wars.

 

[PuddIeduck]

Holy shit, I have the exact same black and red leather waistcoat as Rich Evans.

I'm 6'2 and slim so I think it would NORMALLY look better on me, but who am I to compate myself to a sexbeast like Rich?

 

[Stab You in the Back]

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I haven't watched the Plinkett Reviews in years so forgive if I'm wrong, but aren't they riddled with similar complaints like this? Like the one that sticks out in my mind is the contradiction of a '1000 generations' vs '1000 years' of protection of from the jedi. Seems pretty gay to suddenly be like, "who cares nerds, there are people starving in Africa." Like if when Mike was writing the script for the Plinkett review and wanted to quickly double check online only for the info to have been stealth edited by online shills, I feel like he'd be rightfully pissed off. The guy they cut to literally had the Wookiepedia people crying about getting death threats from him because he simply pointed out on stream that they were changing dates on their online wiki. Their "it's ok when we do it" attitude can really get on my nerves sometimes.

I, too, remember when they reviewed movies. Now they just make culture war videos, but from the perspective of South Park-style fence sitters.

The Plinkett reviews were borne from the frustrations of aspiring filmmakers. People who were passionate about movies and good filmmaking. After Space Cop, RLM went from aspiring filmmakers to professional youtubers. And it shows in all their content. Why make a 20 minute review of a movie when you can make an hour long video about people complaining about a movie? That's like five more ad breaks! Gotta keep the money train rolling so you can continue to make rambling, low-effort content.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I for one find it amussing that they seem confused about why the reactions is the way it is to Star Wars and what is causing it when their playlist of Star Trek videos, wherein they complain about the exact same things, exsist.

But that being said, Rich is right. Space Witches have always been a thing,

 

[Smashing Young Man]

The guys are getting legitimately old and are no longer pop culturally relevant; I believe Nerd Crew was their last hurrah on that count. They're beyond trying to attract and retain the vaunted 18-35 demographic. We're going to get ever more of these rambling "old man yells at clouds" videos. For now they still feel obligated to play the "both sides" game as to not completely alienate a big chunk of their fanbase, but I think they will care less and less about that as time goes on. Well, I don't think Rich ever really gave a damn.

 

[Privilege Power Hour]

Forget Baby Hitler, if you had a time machine would you go back in time and kill Baby George Lucas so you never had to deal with Star Wars discourse ever again?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Also, hasn't Star Wars Theory made some fan movies that have been met with praise from Star Wars fans, too? He appears to be a better film maker than the dudes at RLM, too ...

He has. They have been.

He certainly seems to care more about what he enjoys than RLM to the point he is actually willing to make stuff that shows the kind of stuff he wants.

If RLM had any balls they’d actually make more of their own stuff.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

https://x.com/RealDixonUranus/status/1805812881344106743

Libtards will pretend to like terrible shows if they have a diverse cast. (2 examples given)
Chuds will pretend to hate good shows if they have a diverse cast. (No examples given)

Oof.

 

[AWizard]

if that sort of trend kept up instead of nepotism/politics allowing shitty hiring practices and marketing tactics to take over

This is one of the few things I disagree on Mike with, there was an episode where they were talking about nepotism in Hollywood and he said it doesn't really matter. Nepotism in Hollywood means a narrower range of voices in cinema/TV most of who would have similar upbringing and so would probably not bring anything new or unique to the table. I can't imagine someone like Michael Caine coming into the world of acting through sheer talent these days.

Overall it's an okay video, people are getting mad at what essentially seems to be apathy (and both sideism). Apathy is a reasonable reaction to the Star Wars tripe coming out of Hollywood, Star Wars died some time ago so why waste energy?

 

[Mr Processor]

You don’t see Mike or Rich Evan doing charity events to help world hunger.(Mike becoming fatter than Rich now. At least diet before you bitch about world hunger.) Even ignoring the white knighting corporations. This might be the video that turns RLM fans against them. Shitting on fans never turns out well in the long term. Friendship simulator only works if you don’t shit on your fans for having different views than you. Mike probably going to reach lulzcow status before AIDS Moby.

If you watch this video at about 23:00 you'll see Mike Stoklasa, Rich Evans and Jay Bauman mocking the idea of doing a game show for charity. Needless to say, I don't believe they care about the starving Africans. So, when I watch them on an episode where something is seriously off, like this The Acolyte one, I always try to figure out the angle. What I've figured out over the years is that they treat Disney Star Wars with kid gloves. I don't really know why. It's really annoying though.

 

[Well Intentioned]

In my opinion Rlm are not good at analyzing why something is bad or good. They are just great at talking about good or bad movies

Never really seemed like they knew how to compare and contrast properly. X is great and Y Is bad. Ok but what makes x great and Y bad? Uh well wikipedia says this director sucks or some shit.

I dunno, it just seems like the cinima snob gives better production analysis.

I would argue that they're a good example of someone who has just enough knowledge of something to be dangerous. Like a jailhouse lawyer.

That knowledge being that they did go to film school and understand a lot of the technical aspects of filmmaking. I'd also argue that they probably have a surface understanding of narrative as a result of film school, but their talents (and interests, really) lie on the production side of things.

I largely enjoy them because they're entertaining, not educational. There is some stuff that they've done that is educational (the Jack and Jill review, for example, breaking down just how corporate interests rule certain movies)

The Plinkett reviews were great because they came from someone who probably wanted to get into filmmaking because of Star Wars (or more broadly, George Lucas & Spielberg) and a lot of it was pretty insightful. The Trek ones were good because Mike is a Trek autist and knows way too much.

I'd rather more shit like Don Beveridge or Re:View on stuff they like, vs. beating the dead horses that are Disney Star Wars and Current Year Star Trek.

E: And I think the reason why Mike treats both Trek and Star Wars with kid gloves is because he wants them to be good. Nothing wrong with that. I'd like 'good' Star Wars, but I've long since stopped thinking it's going to happen. I'll watch the old movies or read some of the books I enjoyed and that'll be that. Fuck it.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

This is one of the few things I disagree on Mike with, there was an episode where they were talking about nepotism in Hollywood and he said it doesn't really matter. Nepotism in Hollywood means a narrower range of voices in cinema/TV most of who would have similar upbringing and so would probably not bring anything new or unique to the table. I can't imagine someone like Michael Caine coming into the world of acting through sheer talent these days.

I think this was around the time they had Jack Quaid on the channel.

 

[Kyuruma]

I liked the video, it's fun to see them talk about things not really for the subject matter but because they're interesting/entertaining people. Agreed on one sentiment people are critiquing them for though:

https://x.com/RealDixonUranus/status/1805812881344106743

Oof.

This definitely indicates they are at least on some level out of touch. It's a classical sort of modern centrist bias, they can see and acknowledge the elephant in the room with the left but have to conjure an exaggeration for the right. I think showcasing the outrage juxtaposed next to what a farce Star Wars has been for decades was a good enough point. It comes off like a weird deflection to then say "when woke shit is the focus it ruins media, but at least we don't hate GOOD woke shit".

Like, you can just admit some of them have a good point. You don't have to create a strawman to differentiate your based opinion.