US "We are f***ed": Democrats despair over Biden debate performance

From CNN's Kasie Hunt
24 min ago

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Biden speaks during the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. John Nowak/CNN

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

This debate was historic for many reasons, but not least because it is taking place before each man is formally nominated at their respective conventions. The Democratic National Convention is set to convene August 19 in Chicago.

Democrats have spent much of the past year handwringing about Biden’s chances of beating Trump in an election many view as an existential one that will decide the very survival of American democracy. But Biden himself was determined to be the one to take on Trump, at one point even saying directly: “If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running.”

No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.

Democrats were even talking about who it might be instead: “If I was Gavin (Newsom) or Gretchen (Whitmer), I’d be making calls tonight,” one said.

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I know a lot of people's frame of reference for all future politicians will always be the Clintons but Michelle has zero ambition for the presidency. She isn't going to run for shit. She actively resented Barack for dragging her into national politics by the end of his 2nd term and is a major reason why they both fucked off to play Hollywood instead of sticking around to shepherd the party once Hillary fumbled the bag.
There's a reason only Barack is showing up to fundraise for the Bidens and Michelle basically leaves them on read whenever they ask for help.
He and my Mom are still insistent on dooming and it's incredibly autistic. There's no irony, comedy, memes, just pure retarded cynicism.
 
Kasie Hunt - or KUNT for short. Death to the 4th Estate Media and the Yahvist State. From the London Jews coming here for the Oil and Gold booms, to the 1913 FED ponzi, to 1933's Gold confiscation, to 1965's nigger society agenda, to 1971's removal from Gold backing and enriching of China with our factories, to the 1980s mexican infestation, to 911 and the Jewish border expansion project, to puppet Obongo and the death of Smith-Mundt, to the invader crisis, to now. Americanda is done.
"Sir, this is a Wendy's drive thru."

So this is how Bernie can still win.
Hell, this is how Jimmy Carter can win because he's a legit better option.
 
I think just about the only way the Democrats could still win this election is if they plucked some celebrity from Hollywood as their candidate.

Somebody get Schwarzenegger on the phone!
Schwarzenegger ain’t legal to be Prez. $5’ll get you $10 says the DNC starts grooming Matthew McCougnahey for some kind of office in the next decade. I think he was already considering running for governor or senator of Texas or something.
 
I know a lot of people's frame of reference for all future politicians will always be the Clintons but Michelle has zero ambition for the presidency. She isn't going to run for shit. She actively resented Barack for dragging her into national politics by the end of his 2nd term and is a major reason why they both fucked off to play Hollywood instead of sticking around to shepherd the party once Hillary fumbled the bag.
There's a reason only Barack is showing up to fundraise for the Bidens and Michelle basically leaves them on read whenever they ask for help
I agree w this. She was always open about how she never even wanted Barack to run. And then she’s been on talk shows since the presidency basically saying “I don’t ever want to run for office. This isn’t me being coy. I don’t.” And looks like she is having fun rubbing elbows with celebs and chilling on the beach and probably has more money than God. So what’s the benefit to her for running?

No idea why I know this all about moochelle but here we are.
 
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Everything is going according to plan. Your overlords intended this result all along. Trump cannot win. The fix is in. You are powerless. Go back to sleep. Don't bother trying to change anything.
DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN.
I wanted 4 more years of Biden hoping he'd have a senior moment and say "nigger" during a speech.
I’m hoping he does that at a debate or interview.
 
That, or they're banking on being able to say they did (technically) debate Trump, but it was so long ago it doesn't really stand in the voter's mind 5 months from now
People will remember this in 5 months. Its not something you can shove under the rug. If Biden was mentally competent, then sure. I can see it being erased from the minds of the voters. But Biden is only going to get worse and worse. And they can't just hide him away in Delaware. This is a hell of their own making.
 
The international version of bbc.com/news is top to bottom articles about how terrible Biden is. It's surreal.

There is a historical equivalence here, but I don't think Biden is up to the task. Reagan got absolutely destroyed in the first debate in 1984 - to the point of a similar wall of dementia reporting. National polls had Mondale up by 14 for quite a while after that, like he was due to pull off the landslide Reagan went on to have later. It was so bad the polls never even recovered enough to hint at Reagan's trouncing of Mondale, they still showed a tossup going into election day. Despite this Mondale barely won a single state (his home state of Minnesota, by around half a percent).

But, Reagan pulled off a historic performance in the second debate, to the point that Mondale seemed more on Reagan's side in that one than his own, and Mondale was an extremely strong candidate.

I don't know why Trump makes everyone come off like dancing retards. He shouldn't be able to pull this shit off.
 
I don't know why Trump makes everyone come off like dancing retards. He shouldn't be able to pull this shit off.
It's very much a "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" scenario. First against a GOP establishment that their base fucking loathes, and then against a Democrat party that has no unifying ethos and is just a mess of old people who all got into politics post-Watergate pandering to various groups to try and retain power.
 
There is a historical equivalence here, but I don't think Biden is up to the task. Reagan got absolutely destroyed in the first debate in 1984 - to the point of a similar wall of dementia reporting. National polls had Mondale up by 14 for quite a while after that, like he was due to pull off the landslide Reagan went on to have later. It was so bad the polls never even recovered enough to hint at Reagan's trouncing of Mondale, they still showed a tossup going into election day. Despite this Mondale barely won a single state (his home state of Minnesota, by around half a percent).
I don't know how bad the first Reagan-Mondale debate was but I guarantee it was nowhere near as bad as this. Reagan also was a competent, arguably good, President with a decent record to run on. Biden is an incompetent, absolutely shit President with absolutely no successes to run on, which is why he has to try and put his opponent in prison

Basically there's no fixing this for Biden
 
I don't know why Trump makes everyone come off like dancing retards. He shouldn't be able to pull this shit off.
Mandate of Heaven(or McDonald's). Or more realistically, he was in their circles enough to know how they think, but never really a part of the clique so they don't know him. So he can plan for how they'll act, but they can't. Add in their contempt for the common man that Trump at least pays lip service too and you get what we have here, Trump with support, which they hate.
 
People will remember this in 5 months. Its not something you can shove under the rug. If Biden was mentally competent, then sure. I can see it being erased from the minds of the voters. But Biden is only going to get worse and worse. And they can't just hide him away in Delaware. This is a hell of their own making.

That may have been one of the strategies that led to last night's debate happening. The Dems knew that a debate was going to be bad, but they thought they could get the debate out of the way early, and then everyone would've forgotten about it in a month or so, and they'd have an excuse not to have any more debates "We already did that."

They didn't count on just how disastrous it was going to be though. Last night left a a gigantic, permanent shit stain of Team Joe that will never wash off.
 
People will remember this in 5 months. Its not something you can shove under the rug. If Biden was mentally competent, then sure. I can see it being erased from the minds of the voters. But Biden is only going to get worse and worse. And they can't just hide him away in Delaware. This is a hell of their own making.
The big thing is that, now, the cheapfake excuse, and most of the other excuses, have been utterly atomised. They can no longer say by default that any video of bumbling biden is surreptitiously edited or whateverr they're saying now.
 
It's very much a "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" scenario.
I don't know how people think this. If Trump can stand on stage with 16 other career politicians and dominate the discourse and make the crowd obsessed with him then he can handle a single senile man. Trump also barely looks or sounds any older than he did back in 2016.
 
I don't know how people think this. If Trump can stand on stage with 16 other career politicians and dominate the discourse and make the crowd obsessed with him then he can handle a single senile man. Trump also barely looks or sounds any older than he did back in 2016.
He was a brick through the window of an extremely disconnected political class and their contemptibility does a lot more to drive his success than his own strengths do.
 
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