US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Mark Robinson BussyLiquor]

She's the ultimate useless idiot. Completely useless as a VP, unable to do even the most basic tasks including just standing there and not being annoying. Supposedly she hasn't been sober for the past 4 years.

Imagine if Biden had picked the other finalist for his VP slot: Susan Rice. She was a horrible member of the horrible Obama administration, but she's far intellectually sharper than Kamala, she lacks the same inherent despicability, and would be a formidable debater.

 

[Gehenna]

it would

if the cabinet invokes the 25th

the president can accede or refuse

if the president refuses it goes to congress

now why would the house + senate GOP want to help the dims out of their predicament by getting rid of biden

Actually, the GOP would happily vote for it because it lets them smug about how bad Biden is, avoid getting egg on their face for having to claim Biden isn't a vegetable, absolutely shames the Democrats for ever putting him up, makes Kamala the new Presidential Candidate, -and- deadlocks the Senate because there is no more tiebreaker. They win.

Its the Democrats who absolutely would not bend on it.

 

[draggs]

Actually, the GOP would happily vote for it because it lets them smug about how bad Biden is, avoid getting egg on their face for having to claim Biden isn't a vegetable, absolutely shames the Democrats for ever putting him up, makes Kamala the new Presidential Candidate, -and- deadlocks the Senate because there is no more tiebreaker. They win.

Its the Democrats who absolutely would not bend on it.

or they could refuse which keep things stewing, paralyzing the democrats and tearing them apart instead of allowing them to try to move on swiftly and unite behind copmala

 

[Gehenna]

or they could refuse which keep things stewing, paralyzing the democrats and tearing them apart instead of allowing them to try to move on swiftly and unite behind copmala

Breaking the tiebreaker would be way more important to them. For one, the GOP senate at large does not care about Trump winning so helping or hindering joe isn't really that big to them. Making it to where Kamala loses the tiebreaker role, and then preventing her from putting up a new one, would be exactly something McConnel would jump at though. It would be Garland 2.0.

In the house, it would let every single member of the GOP run on it. "We made sure Biden got out" And in general let them be smug as at the same time the cabinet bringing it to them insulates them completely from political fallout.

Its free campaign material.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Actually, the GOP would happily vote for it because it lets them smug about how bad Biden is, avoid getting egg on their face for having to claim Biden isn't a vegetable, absolutely shames the Democrats for ever putting him up, makes Kamala the new Presidential Candidate, -and- deadlocks the Senate because there is no more tiebreaker. They win.

Its the Democrats who absolutely would not bend on it.

Not to mention, the dems will most likely run Kamala for the presidential race. People will go to the polls for Biden, but she can't fire up her base at all. Less enthusiastic voters for the president means less people at the ballots voting D for all the other positions.

 

[Don Herbert]

People will go to the polls

Even to the extent that votes are counted at all, Democrat votes don't come from people going to the polls, they come from tax-payer-funded operatives going door to door collecting ballots.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Sorry if late, didn't see posted yet.

"President Joe Biden is set to meet with a group of Democratic governors on Wednesday as he and senior aides try to tamp down a growing sense of concern about his ability to remain the party's nominee in the November election."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-meet-democratic-governors-seeks-tamp-calls-step-rcna160104

Archive

Hawai'i Governor Josh Green was one of the Democrat Governors that met up with Biden today. (Archive)

“That kind of clarity was just necessary. When I saw the president today, I saw a very different person than we saw during the debate. That was important for me,” Green said.

“As a physician, I’m always observing people, seeing whether they are strong or weak or ill or healthy, this was a healthy gentleman today sharing ideas at the highest level with 25 governors.”

Someone should probably check the so-called "licenses" that Green claims to have, given how Biden's response to the Maui fires was so lukewarm and minimal that it makes former South Korean President Park Geun-Hye's handling of the Sewol ferry sinking look competent in comparison.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Kamala losing gives the Democrats a false reality to sell -- "We didn't lose, the people didn't reject our holy scripture, it was that worthless cunt Kamala that cost us 2024!"

The narrative will be more like "America is still too racist and sexist to elect Kamala. There's so much work left to be done. Burn it down now."

The machine will never admit fault. You will always be to blame for their failure.

 

[LurkTrawl]

The U.S> system runs on a concept called "Big Tent Politics", the idea being you have two parties but within those parties is a broad spectrum of beliefs that all rally around specific core tenants of politics. A Rand Paul is very different to a Ted Cruz, for example. This actually works well... without a Uniparty.

Consider also that the GOP/DNC are like any franchise, it's tuned to the local flavor. So even if there's technically 2 parties it's a different vibe for each state/county.

I look at the GOP/DNC as the McDonalds of politics.

2. american affairs have an effect on the entire world. it's outsourced it's trannie mental illness to the world for example

America didn't do that, its establishment did.

For the record, the local establishments of the west went along with it. The way you phrased this implies some very nasty shit about americans that just doesn't wash.

 

[Absolutego]

Hawai'i Governor Josh Green was one of the Democrat Governors that met up with Biden today. (Archive)



Someone should probably check the so-called "licenses" that Green claims to have, given how Biden's response to the Maui fires was so lukewarm and minimal that it makes former South Korean President Park Geun-Hye's handling of the Sewol ferry sinking look competent in comparison.

Josh Green is one of like 250,000 Jewish New Yorkers who emigrated to Hawai'i and gives precisely zero shits about anything impacting the natives, but took over state politics alongside 2nd-3rd generation Japanese, that the Hawaiians keep voting for so long as they keep booze relatively cheap.
Do you want an idea what Democrat insiders envision as a future state for the continental 48? It's places like Hawai'i.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

it would

if the cabinet invokes the 25th

the president can accede or refuse

if the president refuses it goes to congress

now why would the house + senate GOP want to help the dims out of their predicament by getting rid of biden

I believe voters would punish Members of Congress who refused to remove Biden when the VP and his cabinet tells them he is incapacitated because it might improve their margin of victory in a race they're already going to win. That would knowingly put the country at pretty serious risk.

 

[northstar747]

She is the epitome of "Diversity hire". Brought on to tick boxes and absolutely nothing more.

I m just confused why back in 2020 it was clear biden had issues, they werent planning for his replacement.

 

[Gehenna]

I m just confused why back in 2020 it was clear biden had issues, they werent planning for his replacement.

They were planning. They were likely banking on all their plans working out exactly as they envisioned them, which means anyone in Biden's cabinet could run next and they could fraud it across the finish line. Nothing went right though. Not a single major plan worked as envisioned.

 

[HackerX]

They were planning. They were likely banking on all their plans working out exactly as they envisioned them, which means anyone in Biden's cabinet could run next and they could fraud it across the finish line. Nothing went right though. Not a single major plan worked as envisioned.

What's the primary contributing factor to this shitshow? I knew most politicians were retarded, but not this retarded.

 

[Brahma]

Learn what I have had to. Start looking for context clues, figure out if its good or bad. Then never, ever attempt to use it yourself. Just nod along like you understand.

Alternatively, use them incorrectly, and out of context in front of your children and their friends. I was able to heat the house last winter from the heat of their embarrassment.

Trannies aren't an 'American affair', it's a global pandemic.

True, but the state department and a bunch of us controlled quangos do the heavy lifting of spreading it. You don't get to play satrap in the GAE if you don't fellate the tranny

prevents a shouty ethnic/political minority group from demanding they disproportionately get their gibs if the biggest of the top 2 parties has to deal with them to actually keep the lights on.

Your rapey/killy minority group due demand they disproportionately get their gibs though, and get them readily.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I m just confused why back in 2020 it was clear biden had issues, they werent planning for his replacement.

I think they expected him to just drop dead one day after a year or so instead of the slow never-ending undead routine. I don't know many people who predicted he'd survive the entire first term. Both dementia and alzheimers are cruel like that.

 

[northstar747]

What's the primary contributing factor to this shitshow? I knew most politicians were retarded, but not this retarded.

So Like I keep saying back during trumps first impeachment.

Zelinsky on a call tells trump it looks like congress critters kids like hunter were up to some shit, would trump like him to look into it.

Biden has to announce his intention to run. Then it becomes the POTUS asking forgien goverments to investigate political rivals.

Combined with hiliary clipping the wings of the new talent its a fucking shit show but hey covid and fraud got biden in.

Then like people say there isnt a strong leadership you have diversity hires, fuck the old white house press secretary took abuse and fucking walked to get replaced with a fucking nigger.

 

[Gehenna]

What's the primary contributing factor to this shitshow? I knew most politicians were retarded, but not this retarded.

Honestly? If I were to phrase it simply? "Wishful thinking". Its my running theory that everyone up top combined forces against Trump, gave their tacit support for the rigging, let orders trickle down as they reinforce their side of things and then just... everything was going to sale smoothly. They assumed, from the word go, that their faction would come out on top, naturely, and that everything was going to go exactly as they envisioned it going. They all made grand plans, put together great ideas, envisioned a future where they came out king... and then met reality.

it was the ultimate expression of the Twin Follies I mentioned long ago:

So, the Democrats historically have two major flaws, the eponymous Twin Follies.

1: They tend to laser focus in on what they believe to be the solution to any given problem. The more severe the problem, the more they focus in on that solution and the less any other solution is even considered.

2: They delay solving issues that are not immediately problematic. Problems that are not of immediate concern are delayed "Because they are a problem for later". This often results in them ignoring major flaws that are not immediately an issue as a problem for another time.

They -laser- focused in on the vision they had, threw all issues with it in the back, and steamrolled ahead. And crashed.

 

[Cuckoman]

I sadly agree with him again. It would likely be impossible. So the only way Harris keeps the money is to delve into legal grayscale and try to have Biden publicly pass the torch to her.

Legal greyzone.
Wouldn't that mean there be a real risk that that money would be tied up in lawfare for the courts to settle whether she can use it for her campaign or not?
I mean, you wouldn't really need to keep that money locked up in legal uncertainty for very long until it doesn't matter any more if she gets access to it for her campaign or not?

 

[Betonhaus]

What's the primary contributing factor to this shitshow? I knew most politicians were retarded, but not this retarded.

I think a lot of it was "ends justify the means" thinking where they break rules and moral traditions in order to achieve their goals with no regard for knock on effects. Combined with them effectively dictating what their advisors tell them so they never get the full story