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Kamala remains the only choice they have other than Biden, because of the donations law. It's possible they'll try and just ignore it, or get a friendly judge to declare it unconstitional, but it's unlikely.
Whitmer is a non starter. She could try and play up the "they literally tried to kill me" vibe but that brings up awkward questions about why 85% of them were feds. Plus every single person that sees her face instinctively wants to slap the shit out of her.
Newsom is only liked by white women that don't have to live where he is in power. That + party loyalty isn't enough.
They have no one else.
Whitmer is a non starter. She could try and play up the "they literally tried to kill me" vibe but that brings up awkward questions about why 85% of them were feds. Plus every single person that sees her face instinctively wants to slap the shit out of her.
Newsom is only liked by white women that don't have to live where he is in power. That + party loyalty isn't enough.
They have no one else.
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For context, this is a dude who is in hardcore bands and is always angry about vapid political bullshit. Seems most metalheads are as big or bigger faggots than punks these days sadly.
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The only thing I'll offer as a counter to Whitmer being a non-starter from the party's perspective is that she keeps tweeting fundraising links ostensibly on behalf of Biden/Harris that link to her private war chest PAC. She's been doing it for almost a week now. Not sure if she'd do that if she thought the doors were completely closed off to her.
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Yes, very literally Democrats are publicly campaigning against their own candidate. They are saying the same shit about Biden that Trump is. With enemies like these, who needs friends?
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There's probably so much chaos in the Democratic party that nobody's able to give the GOP their marching orders.
Plus the debate made Biden look so bad that the only thing the GOP could do to take the spotlight away from him is to "leak" a video of them screaming about how they want to rape nigger babies. And I honestly wouldn't put it past them to do it either.
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Maybe Dark Brandon will catch on this time. I personally blame the DNC lackey responsible with that for Biden's downfall.
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After a week of reflection on all of this, all I can think is that they can't get complacent and need to keep fighting like they are down by 20 points. Never underestimate the GOP's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, especially because the media is going to inevitably fall back in line sooner rather than later.
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While it's prudent to assume the worse, the Debate shows that they aren't on the same page and their plans are half-baked. The "rig machine" only really worked once and the conditions aren't there.
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I think the funniest part of the Dem establishment panicking is that it absolutely paints why the fuck they're hated without them ever intending such to be the case.
You have a situation where your frontrunner is a fucking embarassment. His insane wife won't step aside and it's very clear you're going to have to pull strings to get the old man to fold. But who can you replace him with? You can go with his VP, who is somehow, impossibly, one of the most hated politicians in the USA, abysmally unpopular even in her home state for being the corrupt cop to end all corrupt cops. But what are your other options?
More Clintonistas. More Obamunists. More Insane Neoprogressives. They have dozens of potential normie Dems they could pull the goalie on from the Midcard - all of them are virtual unknowns compared to the current suite but that would honestly be a good thing compared to this spread - but they won't. The candidate has to be a fucking swamp creature, has to be the kind of politician who will do nothing but continue to embody everything wrong with the Democrats for the last 30+ years.
You have a situation where your frontrunner is a fucking embarassment. His insane wife won't step aside and it's very clear you're going to have to pull strings to get the old man to fold. But who can you replace him with? You can go with his VP, who is somehow, impossibly, one of the most hated politicians in the USA, abysmally unpopular even in her home state for being the corrupt cop to end all corrupt cops. But what are your other options?
More Clintonistas. More Obamunists. More Insane Neoprogressives. They have dozens of potential normie Dems they could pull the goalie on from the Midcard - all of them are virtual unknowns compared to the current suite but that would honestly be a good thing compared to this spread - but they won't. The candidate has to be a fucking swamp creature, has to be the kind of politician who will do nothing but continue to embody everything wrong with the Democrats for the last 30+ years.
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They wouldn't be trying to boot Biden if they couldn't lose. He's too useful as the frontman to get everything they want passed
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Is that Sting coming down from the rafters?!?! No, it's Chuck Schumer!
Ukraine is Big Gay
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I have to know what this is alluding to or a concrete reference to.
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How many Dems are wistfully daydreaming about the alternate reality where Trump won 2020 and is just getting ready to set sail forever, with the Republicans in an internal monkey knife fight and the Dems flush with cash and fully brain dead Resisters on standby for whatever insane plan gets cooked up?
Hardly any of them would have taken the jab, inflation would still be terrible and blamed on Trump, his first term economic performance forgotten.
I bet a few wouldn’t mind that scenario all that much.
The real timeline is a wild ride, I must say.
Hardly any of them would have taken the jab, inflation would still be terrible and blamed on Trump, his first term economic performance forgotten.
I bet a few wouldn’t mind that scenario all that much.
The real timeline is a wild ride, I must say.
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Honestly, so long as Trump comes out on top, I'd say everything worked out for the best. He'd be in a lot stronger position in '25 than if he'd won in '20
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He wouldn't have the thirst for revenge and four years to plan it though.
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Trump at this point should switch up and make the agreements all benefit him for Septembers debate.
Abc believe it or not will be more hostile than Cnn. Disney has legal shit potentially coming due to dei bullshit that was too blatant and really does not want a Republican executive branch making findings on them. They also are actively wanting to shed Abc so burning credibility means little.
Meanwhile Cnn was in a win no matter what scenario. Zaslav is sympathetic to Trump, the rank and file hate Trump but not leadership. And if Trump wins it helps cnn to go back to "the resistance" mode.
All Biden has to do is smile and nod and say thays right you liar when Abc gaslights about all his statements and the narrative switches to how Biden is back.
Abc believe it or not will be more hostile than Cnn. Disney has legal shit potentially coming due to dei bullshit that was too blatant and really does not want a Republican executive branch making findings on them. They also are actively wanting to shed Abc so burning credibility means little.
Meanwhile Cnn was in a win no matter what scenario. Zaslav is sympathetic to Trump, the rank and file hate Trump but not leadership. And if Trump wins it helps cnn to go back to "the resistance" mode.
All Biden has to do is smile and nod and say thays right you liar when Abc gaslights about all his statements and the narrative switches to how Biden is back.
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Biden Stumbles Over His Words as He Tries to Steady Re-Election Campaign
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Michael D. Shear
2024-07-05 00:44:26GMT
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Michael D. Shear
2024-07-05 00:44:26GMT
The president’s appearances have come under intense scrutiny since he appeared feeble in his debate against former President Donald J. Trump.
President Biden and his top aides have said his activities in the coming days are part of a series of campaign efforts designed to prove that his debate performance was nothing more than “a bad night.”Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
President Biden sought to steady his re-election campaign by talking with two Black radio hosts for interviews broadcast on Thursday, but he spoke haltingly at points during one interview and struggled to find the right phrase in the other, saying that he was proud to have been “the first Black woman to serve with a Black president.”
He also stumbled over his words during a four-minute Fourth of July speech to military families at the White House, beginning a story about former President Donald J. Trump, calling him “one of our colleagues, the former president” and then adding, “probably shouldn’t say, at any rate” before abruptly ending the story and moving on.
Mr. Biden made the mistake on WURD radio, based in Philadelphia, as he tried to deliver a line that he has repeated before about having pride in serving as vice president for President Barack Obama. Earlier in the interview, he boasted about appointing the first Black woman to the Supreme Court and picking the first Black woman to be vice president.
The president also made a mistake earlier in the interview when he asserted that he had been the first president elected statewide in Delaware. He appeared to mean that he was the first Catholic in the state to be elected statewide, going on to speak admiringly of John F. Kennedy, a Catholic.
Mr. Biden and his top aides have said the president’s activities in the coming days are part of a series of campaign efforts designed to prove to voters, donors and activists that the president’s debate debacle was nothing more than what he has called “a bad night.”
Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for Mr. Biden’s campaign, criticized the news media for making note of the president’s stumbles.
“It was clear what President Biden meant when he was talking about his historic record, including a record number of appointments to the federal bench,” he said, referring to the president’s comments about being a Black woman. “This is not news and the media has passed the point of absurdity here.”
All of the president’s appearances have come under intense scrutiny since he appeared listless and distracted in the debate against former President Donald J. Trump last Thursday, a performance that triggered a wave of anxiety among Democrats about whether he is too old to remain as the party’s nominee.
The president is scheduled to sit down on Friday for an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos after a campaign rally in Madison, Wis. On Sunday, he is scheduled to appear at a campaign event in Philadelphia.
On Thursday, the president used the radio interviews to try to dispel concerns about the debate among members of the Black community. The hosts of both shows praised and thanked Mr. Biden after the interviews.
In Mr. Biden’s appearance on the “The Earl Ingram Show,” which is aimed at Black listeners in Wisconsin but is also broadcast around the country, Mr. Ingram opened his show by asking the president to “speak to some accomplishments that we may or may not be familiar with about your record.”
But despite the low-pressure nature of the interview, the president at times spoke haltingly as he delivered his rapid-fire answers. Asked why voting mattered, Mr. Biden gave an answer about the Supreme Court’s ruling this week on immunity for Mr. Trump.
“You need someone, someone who is going to make sure that — the Supreme Court just issued a decision, by the way, that threatens the American principle that we have no kings in America,” he said. “There’s no one above the law.”
“That’s where we always — we gave Donald Trump executive — a power to to use a system — and it’s just never contemplated by our founders because of the people he appointed to the court,” he said, appearing to stutter several times, a condition he has struggled with since he was a child. “It’s just presidential immunity. He can say that I did this in my capacity as an executive, it may have been wrong, but I did it. But that’s going to hold — because I — and this is the same guy who says that he wants to enact revenge.”
The president’s responses to Mr. Ingram’s four questions were lengthy as he largely stuck to listing his accomplishments in office and criticizing Mr. Trump. But in the 17-minute interview, he sometimes stopped himself in the middle of an answer.
In the answer about the importance of voting, he began talking about Mr. Trump’s proposal to increase tariffs on all Chinese goods imported into the United States. He cut himself off in the middle of the answer, apologizing for going on too long.
“He wants a 10 percent tariff on everything imported to the United States,” he said, “which experts point out is going to raise the taxes on average Americans 2,500 bucks, raise the taxes while he gives a $5 trillion tax cut next time out for everybody making — anyway, just, I don’t want to get too wrapped up in it, really.”
Mr. Biden also stopped himself from using an epithet to describe Mr. Trump during an answer in which he talked about his son Beau, who died from brain cancer after serving for a year in Iraq. Mr. Biden has placed the blame for his death on his proximity to so-called burn pits, where waste was disposed of.
“He went a very healthy man, came back with Stage 4 glioblastoma — more brain injuries in that war than any other war — and he died,” Mr. Biden said. “I’ll be damned if I let this S.O. — excuse me — this president, talk about veterans the way he talked.”
At the end of the interview with Mr. Ingram, the president once again acknowledged his poor debate performance.
“The fact of the matter is that, you know, it was — I screwed up,” he said. “I made a mistake.”
President Biden and his top aides have said his activities in the coming days are part of a series of campaign efforts designed to prove that his debate performance was nothing more than “a bad night.”Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
President Biden sought to steady his re-election campaign by talking with two Black radio hosts for interviews broadcast on Thursday, but he spoke haltingly at points during one interview and struggled to find the right phrase in the other, saying that he was proud to have been “the first Black woman to serve with a Black president.”
He also stumbled over his words during a four-minute Fourth of July speech to military families at the White House, beginning a story about former President Donald J. Trump, calling him “one of our colleagues, the former president” and then adding, “probably shouldn’t say, at any rate” before abruptly ending the story and moving on.
Mr. Biden made the mistake on WURD radio, based in Philadelphia, as he tried to deliver a line that he has repeated before about having pride in serving as vice president for President Barack Obama. Earlier in the interview, he boasted about appointing the first Black woman to the Supreme Court and picking the first Black woman to be vice president.
The president also made a mistake earlier in the interview when he asserted that he had been the first president elected statewide in Delaware. He appeared to mean that he was the first Catholic in the state to be elected statewide, going on to speak admiringly of John F. Kennedy, a Catholic.
Mr. Biden and his top aides have said the president’s activities in the coming days are part of a series of campaign efforts designed to prove to voters, donors and activists that the president’s debate debacle was nothing more than what he has called “a bad night.”
Ammar Moussa, a spokesman for Mr. Biden’s campaign, criticized the news media for making note of the president’s stumbles.
“It was clear what President Biden meant when he was talking about his historic record, including a record number of appointments to the federal bench,” he said, referring to the president’s comments about being a Black woman. “This is not news and the media has passed the point of absurdity here.”
All of the president’s appearances have come under intense scrutiny since he appeared listless and distracted in the debate against former President Donald J. Trump last Thursday, a performance that triggered a wave of anxiety among Democrats about whether he is too old to remain as the party’s nominee.
The president is scheduled to sit down on Friday for an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos after a campaign rally in Madison, Wis. On Sunday, he is scheduled to appear at a campaign event in Philadelphia.
On Thursday, the president used the radio interviews to try to dispel concerns about the debate among members of the Black community. The hosts of both shows praised and thanked Mr. Biden after the interviews.
In Mr. Biden’s appearance on the “The Earl Ingram Show,” which is aimed at Black listeners in Wisconsin but is also broadcast around the country, Mr. Ingram opened his show by asking the president to “speak to some accomplishments that we may or may not be familiar with about your record.”
But despite the low-pressure nature of the interview, the president at times spoke haltingly as he delivered his rapid-fire answers. Asked why voting mattered, Mr. Biden gave an answer about the Supreme Court’s ruling this week on immunity for Mr. Trump.
“You need someone, someone who is going to make sure that — the Supreme Court just issued a decision, by the way, that threatens the American principle that we have no kings in America,” he said. “There’s no one above the law.”
“That’s where we always — we gave Donald Trump executive — a power to to use a system — and it’s just never contemplated by our founders because of the people he appointed to the court,” he said, appearing to stutter several times, a condition he has struggled with since he was a child. “It’s just presidential immunity. He can say that I did this in my capacity as an executive, it may have been wrong, but I did it. But that’s going to hold — because I — and this is the same guy who says that he wants to enact revenge.”
The president’s responses to Mr. Ingram’s four questions were lengthy as he largely stuck to listing his accomplishments in office and criticizing Mr. Trump. But in the 17-minute interview, he sometimes stopped himself in the middle of an answer.
In the answer about the importance of voting, he began talking about Mr. Trump’s proposal to increase tariffs on all Chinese goods imported into the United States. He cut himself off in the middle of the answer, apologizing for going on too long.
“He wants a 10 percent tariff on everything imported to the United States,” he said, “which experts point out is going to raise the taxes on average Americans 2,500 bucks, raise the taxes while he gives a $5 trillion tax cut next time out for everybody making — anyway, just, I don’t want to get too wrapped up in it, really.”
Mr. Biden also stopped himself from using an epithet to describe Mr. Trump during an answer in which he talked about his son Beau, who died from brain cancer after serving for a year in Iraq. Mr. Biden has placed the blame for his death on his proximity to so-called burn pits, where waste was disposed of.
“He went a very healthy man, came back with Stage 4 glioblastoma — more brain injuries in that war than any other war — and he died,” Mr. Biden said. “I’ll be damned if I let this S.O. — excuse me — this president, talk about veterans the way he talked.”
At the end of the interview with Mr. Ingram, the president once again acknowledged his poor debate performance.
“The fact of the matter is that, you know, it was — I screwed up,” he said. “I made a mistake.”
Bindo
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We've been expecting him to either pull his dick out or just blatantly grope a woman/kid. If he gets frusterated however, I'd bet gamer words are on the menu.
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You are half right, people will forget the events. What you are wrong about is that this will be completely forgotten.
People forget events, they remember -impressions-.
It is why this is such a massive thing. Biden, on an objective and specific level, honestly didn't fuck up -that- bad. He didn't say anything truly horrible, no nigger moment here which will be remembered as a specific incident. It was the sum total that was the massive, unholy fuckup. Just a long list of mild to moderate mess-ups that individually could be recovered from but as a whole left an impression of a man wholly diminished. That impression will not fade with time.
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I think the main thing is his response afterward. Namely gaslighting, insulting critics, instilling fear, not talking to people. And thinking about it, he's done it all his campaign, lying about his mental health and gaslighting about the economy. Also some of Biden's "supporters" scare me more than Trump's ever did. Call me insane, I don't care, but do you people think the reason people are afraid is because we've established two narcissists as presidential candidates?
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