2024 U.S. Presidential and State election thread - I'm gonna... I'm gonna... VOOT!!! I'm VOOOOOTING!!!

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Double replying but as another bit of Biden age related posting, Joe Biden is so old his time in the senate overlaps with the Nixon Administration. Theres actually a recording of then President Nixon calling Senator Elect Biden to offer his condolences after his first wife and daughter Naomi tragically passed away in a car accident.
Fuck ancient dinosaur ....
 
While democrats vow to vote for roadkill, remember all the times they claimed Trump is not presidential. As if it ever meant anything to them. Maybe ask if Biden shitting his diaper in public is presidential.
This is what makes partisan politics so awful. Had it been Trump who was mentally out of it during the debate, the media's narrative would be, "OMG! He's unfit for office," and not ,"OMG, why are you judging a candidate on one bad debate?" If a bad debate doesn't matter, why bother with the debates? (/rhetorical)

in 2016 Trump lost two electoral votes in Texas to Faithless Electors. You can bet this time there will be more, especially if the race is close.
Could Biden potentially lose Electoral Votes from faithless electors this year? With some of his own party members losing faith in him, it's not totally outside the realm of possibility.

As much as I hate to say it, Republicans need to finally face the truth that's waving right in front of them and start playing the game to win.
I think Trump may have screwed himself over in 2020 by criticizing absentee balloting and inadvertently dissuading people who wanted to vote for him via absentee from doing so.

When dealing with bureaucracy in any form, sometimes playing the game is the best way to get what you want if you know how to play the system.

In 2020, it was the mail-in ballot initiative that made it hard to decipher fake ballots vs real ones. In 2024, it's going to be the illegals voting that's going to make it hard to decipher fake ballots vs real ones.
Especially in the liberal areas where they give illegals ballots to supposedly vote for state and local stuff only. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but there's no assurance those voters won't be given a ballot with the Presidential election and other items to vote on that they supposedly shouldn't be getting.

Jill Biden will go down as the worst wife ever. I would NEVER EVER let my husband humiliate himself like this if his health were declining like this.
I recently discussed this with someone and we agreed that Jill seems hooked on the prestige and status that comes with being first lady - so much so she cares more about that than her husband's well-being.

And this came out this morning, before the trash fire press conference.
This is hilarious. Back in 2020, the Dems were claiming Trump was going to win because of Russian bots, interference, etc. Since it didn't happen then, why should this same tired argument be believed four years later?

I've been a Trump supporter since 2016. That said, I'm not afraid to say that his age does concern me. We aren't seeing anything concerning or alarming in regards to Trump's overall health right now
The people I know who aren't diehard members of either big party are put off by both Trump's and Biden's age. At most, since his original term, I've only heard speculation that Trump is mentally unstable. As for Biden, the answer has revealed itself in his recent public appearances - especially his ones in the evenings.

Also seriously, you guys have a minimum age to run for President, why isn’t there a Maximum?
Probably because age maximums in many fields were reversed as (age) discrimination. At a prior job, i had access to past and present contracts and the old versions used to have maximum age limit before mandatory retirement. Over time, the clause included, "If allowed by law" and eventually disappeared when it became illegal.

One would hope voters that don't want someone too old or otherwise undesirable for presidency to simply not vote for them. What doesn't help are the diehards previously mentioned in the thread who will vote for their preferred candidate no matter what and the overall lack of viable alternatives.

Independent of political leanings, the biggest issue is Biden's overall health. A former nurse and I both noticed Biden seems to be less mentally sharp at night as if he suffers from sundowning. What concerns me more from past experience with older people is the fact that what little we see as the public is concerning enough but what we likely don't see behind the scenes could paint a more serious picture. And of course the mass media machine doesn't want anyone connecting the dots to see the reality or gravity of the situation.

As much as Dems want to bounce and squeak over that big 2025 plan - whatever its called - I can't help wondering what they're doing behind the scenes is no different - Especially if they now have to plan for Biden being unable to finish a potential second term in terms of who would take over (presumably Harris) and how different the political agenda would be moving forward. I have a feeling that could be just as unpalatable to the average voter if the details ever leaked out.
 
I saw this in my Firefox new tab feed that I usually ignore. It's the first time I've seen Project 2025 mentioned from a legacy media site.
IMO they're pushing for it being the big bad thing too early; the folks I know IRL who tend to vote left are screeching about it, while a lot of folks I know in the middle are talking about how Biden is trailing off. The recent President of Ukraine gaff from Biden has really cemented those folks into not wanting to vote for him, but most of them aren't too keen on Trump either; granted I think they will be voting for him come November.
Regardless of who RFK Jr. might or might not be a plant for, as others have said, this election come November will be a shitshow for sure.
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Facts. The West is on suicide watch. Giving the vote to everyone has clearly been a disaster.



Wait WHAT?! HOW WOULD THIS BE AN IMPROVEMENT?!?
The property owners (specifically and only occupants of single family dwellings), are the ones that pay the taxes and live directly in the area. They feel both the economic and cultural effects of whatever policy they enact.
It's far too easy to spend everyone else's money, but people get really frugal when it's their own money being spent.

Military and vets have proven they are, or were, willing to do the dirty work the electorates dictate. Again, it's easy to vote for shit when it's not your ass on the line.

The student loan forgiveness bullshit is a great example of what happens when you let people with no skin in the game have power. They think that by demanding the government do something, the resources magically appear.

And I'm discounting condo, hotel, and apartment complex owners, because they're most likely not even citizens, let alone residents. They specifically are barred from voting. Fuck them in particular.
 
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The only people I see voting for Biden at this point are the die-hard Democrats and a lot of low-information voters who buy the threat to democracy thing. The Vote Blue No Matter Who don't care about Bidens decline. They know he's their best chance in 2024 and will take a mentally declined man over orange man. Biden could crap on stage, put a hand in his pants, take out a lump of crap, look at it for several seconds, eat it, give a literal shit-eating grin, and continue his speech. They would still vote or him. Granted, hard-core Trump voters would too but Trump isn't that declined.
 
I love how they fear monger about "Muh Project 2025!!!" like they don't draft the same kinda plans but for lefty and pro-establishment shit
I saw it best in a Soyjak vs. Chad comic:

Soyjak: OMG!!! Did you hear about Project 2025!?
Chad: Oh, they're already skipping 5 years and starting the 2030 Agenda sooner?
Soyjak: Huh? What 2030 Agenda?! That's a fascist tinfoil hat conspiracy theory you chud!
 
They would still vote or him. Granted, hard-core Trump voters would too but Trump isn't that declined.

There’s an important difference there friendo!

The Dems would vote for their shiteating senile candidate because they’re actually retarded enough to believe that big, mean Trump will put them all in KZ camps and their women into rape cages.

Trump voters would vote for a shiteating senile candidate as payback for how their guy was treated. And to fuck with the deep state.

Fuck ancient dinosaur ....

Kinda funny and endearing to hear Nixon like that. You can tell he’s just about to be real and go for the “Well, you’re young! You’ll find another wife!” Before he pivots right over to “Eh, she watched you win a great victory!”

Also: HOLY FUCKING SHIT HES OOOOLD! He will probably senile-mumble shit about the Vietnam war.

What really bothers me isn’t just his age but that he has been in DC for so long. The man know fuck all about regular life. Ask him what a Big Mac costs and he’ll stare blankly and mumble “$1.19!”

I recently discussed this with someone and we agreed that Jill seems hooked on the prestige and status that comes with being first lady - so much so she cares more about that than her husband's well-being.

Oh definitely.

And it’s not just her. Biden has a whole patronage network that would be out on their ass if he wasn’t president.
There’s his brother the nightclub owner:


There’s his other brother and his sister who has been involved in every campaign of his.

There’s Hunter of course.

(Does anyone seriously think that “donors” will line up and pay for his next rehab stint if Daddy isn’t president no more? Or buy his paintings? Fuck no. Hunter could die in a ditch and nobody would care.)

All these people owe an extremely comfortable livelihood to Biden being president. No matter if he’s actually brain dead or not. It’s a real life political Weekend At Bernie’s situation.

And all these vultures are surrounding Biden, ensuring that nobody who may damage their little scam gets access, and try to keep the charade going.
 
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All the propaganda fear mongering is hilarious whenever I feel the need to kill braincels watching pundits on legacy media. They are really amping up the 'Battle for Democracy' narrative and aren't even pretending to be objectively neutral anymore on the election.

I guess they're aware of their audience being low IQ retards who lack the ability to process any independent thought.
 
The biggest unanswered question is how will it affect the world beside the USA? All I keep hearing is if Cheetos Hitler wins, the KKK will rise again, frogs will fall down, we'll be in hell AND we'll get a conservative prime minister.
 
The biggest unanswered question is how will it affect the world beside the USA? All I keep hearing is if Cheetos Hitler wins, the KKK will rise again, frogs will fall down, we'll be in hell AND we'll get a conservative prime minister.
I think it'll be like "we'll honor the more beneficial agreements but you're on your own for the rest"
 
The biggest unanswered question is how will it affect the world beside the USA? All I keep hearing is if Cheetos Hitler wins, the KKK will rise again, frogs will fall down, we'll be in hell AND we'll get a conservative prime minister.
I dunno. Those 4 years under Cheetos hitler were some of the best period in the history of murica. Under Biden, we are on the brink of ww3.
 
The only people I see voting for Biden at this point are the die-hard Democrats and a lot of low-information voters who buy the threat to democracy thing. The Vote Blue No Matter Who don't care about Bidens decline. They know he's their best chance in 2024 and will take a mentally declined man over orange man. Biden could crap on stage, put a hand in his pants, take out a lump of crap, look at it for several seconds, eat it, give a literal shit-eating grin, and continue his speech. They would still vote or him. Granted, hard-core Trump voters would too but Trump isn't that declined.
Anecdotal, and perhaps they fall under "die-hard Democrats" at this point, but a bunch of people in my life who could be described as 'neoconservatives' including my parents and a couple grandparents, are absolutely convinced that Trump is going to become a dictator, and that Putin is going to invade Poland and kick off WWIII if the US stops burning money in Ukraine. Granted, these people haven't supported or voted for a Republican presidential candidate since Kasich dropped out in 2016.
 
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