Astronauts stranded in space due to multiple issues with Boeing's Starliner — and the window for a return flight is closing

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Astronauts stranded in space due to multiple issues with Boeing's Starliner — and the window for a return flight is closing​


Two NASA astronauts who rode to orbit on Boeing's Starliner are currently stranded in space aboard the International Space Station (ISS) after engineers discovered numerous issues with the Boeing spacecraft. Teams on the ground are now racing to assess Starliner's status.

Astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams were originally scheduled to return to Earth on June 13 after a week on the ISS, but their stay has been extended for a second time due to the ongoing issues. The astronauts will now return home no sooner than June 26th, according to NASA.

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After years of delays, Boeing's Starliner capsule successfully blasted offon its inaugural crewed flight from Florida's Cape Canaveral Space Force Station at 10:52 a.m. EDT on June 5. But during the 25-hour flight, engineers discovered five separate helium leaks to the spacecraft's thruster system.

Now, to give engineers time to troubleshoot the faults, NASA has announced it will push back the perilous return flight, extending the crew's stay on the space station to at least three weeks.

"We've learned that our helium system is not performing as designed," Mark Nappi, Boeing's Starliner program manager, said at a news conference on June 18. "Albeit manageable, it's still not working like we designed it. So we've got to go figure that out."

The return module of the Starliner spacecraft is currently docked to the ISS's Harmony module as NASA and Boeing engineers assess the vital hardware issues aboard the vessel, including five helium leaks to the system that pressurizes the spacecraft's propulsion system, and five thruster failures to its reaction-control system.

After powering the thrusters up on June 15, engineers found that most of these issues appeared to be at least partially resolved, but their exact causes remain unknown.

However, the Harmony module's limited fuel means Starliner can only stay docked for 45 days, so the window for a safe return flight is narrowing.

The issues are the latest in a long list of setbacks and headaches for Boeing's spacecraft. The company built the Starliner capsule as a part of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, a partnership between the agency and private companies to ferry astronauts into low Earth orbit following the retirement of NASA's space shuttles in 2011. SpaceX's Crew Dragon also came from this initiative and has racked up 12 crewed flights since it began operating in 2020.

But Starliner's first uncrewed test flight in 2019 was scuppered by a software fault that placed it in the wrong orbit, and a second attempt was held back by issues with a fuel valve. After more reviews last year, the company had to fix issues with the capsule's parachutes and remove around a mile (1.6 kilometers) of tape that was found to be flammable.

The current mission is Boeing's third attempt to take the crew to the ISS. The previous two were scrubbed by a vibrating oxygen valve on the United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket on which Starliner was mounted (and which was developed by Lockheed Martin) and a computer glitch in a ground launch sequencer, respectively.
 
When the statliner disentegrates in the atmosphere after LaShaqueeesha the product safety manage at boeing has garaunteed "evrefing" was "aight" will that kill Boeing? I know that a bunch of regular fliers are already making sure their flights arent on boeings. What happens when Boeing schoolteacher's a bunch of stronk independant space women?
Boeing has around 170k jobs in the US alone, probably twice that in subcontractors, they go under and it's over for the US economy, the disaster would be on par with the post 1991 defense cuts and subsequent economic downturn at least.
You'd wipe out Seattle and the northwest for good.

More than likely they will go the GM route and directly administer it for a while.
Their financial situation is still doable, and it's cheaper for the airlines to wait for them to fix the planes then to switch to Airbus which already has a 15+ year backlog.
 
But, crusty cosmonauts aside, I'm sure NASA has killed more people with a "this is fine" attitude that the Soviets/Russians ever have.
Not a chance. The Soviets killed a LOT of people in their space program, but they were and the Russians are very much not forthcoming with that information.

Boeing moved out of Seattle years ago.

They moved their headquarters but they still have a factory in Seattle.
It's my understanding they still have enormous manufacturing plants in places called Everett and Renton in Washington state.
 
When the statliner disentegrates in the atmosphere after LaShaqueeesha the product safety manage at boeing has garaunteed "evrefing" was "aight" will that kill Boeing? I know that a bunch of regular fliers are already making sure their flights arent on boeings. What happens when Boeing schoolteacher's a bunch of stronk independant space women?
Boeing is 100% backed by the US government. It'll take more than a few astronauts dying in fireballs for them to fire anyone involved in DIE
 
Boeing is 100% backed by the US government. It'll take more than a few astronauts dying in fireballs for them to fire anyone involved in DIE
They sort of fired their CEO - Dennis Muilenburg - who was responsible for being the top decision maker when the 737 MAX disasters were seen the world over. I say "sort of" because Muilenburg departed the company with $62.2m in stock and pension awards - not bad for being a huge f*ckup, eh?

I also remember seeing a video somewhere of that loudmouth CNBC buffoon Jim Cramer interviewing Muilenburg and the guy NEVER mentioned safety even once. All he talked about was growth, Growth, and GROWTH and MORE revenues!

 
DEI comes from marxists. What did you expect?
We literally won the space race, you subhuman solzhenitsyn.

Soyuz, a Russian spacecraft that is in basically unmodified since the 1960s and is remarkably reliable with only 2 fatal accidents (the second one made it widespread for all, of mandatory spacesuits for launch and landing, so even if the cabin is depressurized, the crew is kept alive in their suits)
^ This is Marxism.
 
Not a chance. The Soviets killed a LOT of people in their space program, but they were and the Russians are very much not forthcoming with that information.

Yes, a ton of cosmonauts burned up and only a few of their deaths were ever made public. Yuri Gagarin almost went up in the total deathtrap that was Soyuz 1, which ended up being manned by a guy who didn't want a national hero like Gagarin to be killed by it. He told people he wanted an open casket after so people could see what the Soviets had allowed to happen to him. He crashed full-speed into the ground so here's the remains:

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Boeing has around 170k jobs in the US alone, probably twice that in subcontractors, they go under and it's over for the US economy, the disaster would be on par with the post 1991 defense cuts and subsequent economic downturn at least.
You'd wipe out Seattle and the northwest for good.

More than likely they will go the GM route and directly administer it for a while.
Their financial situation is still doable, and it's cheaper for the airlines to wait for them to fix the planes then to switch to Airbus which already has a 15+ year backlog.
If we get Falling Down II it's worth it
 
It's my understanding they still have enormous manufacturing plants in places called Everett and Renton in Washington state.
Correct. Boeing orbits around Seattle but generally avoids the city proper. The Everett facility remains the largest indoor space in the world and especially once the 737 max blew up in the company's face the Renton facility down south has kept expanding.
They're huge and a fixture of fixing the company's fuckups, the question is whether the leadership in Chicago can extract their head from their collective ass or if they're going to keep farming work out to Charleston because that region is both cheaper and ticks all the DEI boxes.
 
Yes, a ton of cosmonauts burned up and only a few of their deaths were ever made public. Yuri Gagarin almost went up in the total deathtrap that was Soyuz 1, which ended up being manned by a guy who didn't want a national hero like Gagarin to be killed by it. He told people he wanted an open casket after so people could see what the Soviets had allowed to happen to him. He crashed full-speed into the ground so here's the remains:

I wonder if they kissed it.
 
In yet a further sign that the company is perma-f**ked by sh*t tier leadership, Boeing is moving its headquarters from Chicago to Arlington, Virginia. It’s an obvious attempt to be able to lobby Congress more effectively rather than fix its many internal problems. It also foolishly creates more distance between the top decision makers and the bulk of its most important workforce in Washington state.

This is what happens when the C-suite are paid in stock options and are allowed to handpick the board - they focus on Wall St. to the detriment of everything else.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/busine...quarters-leave-chicago-relocate-washington-dc
 
Imagine being up on the ISS and knowing that they thing designed to take you back home is busted and a bunch of DEi hires are in charge of getting is back in shape. They must be shitting themselves. Can they hitch a ride back down on one of the other transports?
 
Imagine being up on the ISS and knowing that they thing designed to take you back home is busted and a bunch of DEi hires are in charge of getting is back in shape. They must be shitting themselves. Can they hitch a ride back down on one of the other transports?
Ground control must have told them "if it's not Boeing you're not going."
 
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