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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
And today Tommy Robinson has been arrested* under the Terrorism Act [ X ], reportedly for screening his own banned documentary at yesterday's event.
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I know very little about Tommy Robinson and he could be an opportunist grifter for all I know, but it sure is starting to look like he's a persecuted unfavorable. Which is to say: regardless the truth of the matter, the silly fuckers are building the man his own legend.

ETA: There is a protest on Downing Street, currently being livestreamed here.

* ETA 2: The Met deny it [ X ]. Quite the puzzler.
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ETA 3: This posted yesterday suggests otherwise [ X ]. The social media monkeys must not be in the loop.
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what was the doc about?
 
I don't know a ton about Tommy Robinson, but being a regular guy instead of a brilliant, well-resourced, 4D-chess-player doesn't mean he can't be a hero.

The regular guy willing to incur the wrath of every Regime institution to give a voice to the other 99% who can't risk their livelihoods and families is also heroic.

Count Dankula is pretty far from what I imagine when I think "hero", but letting himself be arrested and prosecuted with a smile to show the world how insane Clown World has become, was pretty heroic:

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He doesn't give a voice to those people though. He grifts off of them and then uses the money to deflect their anger away from things that the elites don't want questioned, channelling into an edgy version of much more kosher beliefs.

The inherent nativism and nationalism of the White working class runs counter to the multicultural agenda. Therefore it is narrowed, then sanitised and redirected when Robinson picks it up. E.g:

The authentic White working class attitude on immigration is based on a lot of different factors (economic, societal, "they're just not us" etc). Robinson narrows this to focus only on areas that the elites are comfortable with opposing ("they groom and rape kids", "they commit terrorist attacks", "they treat women badly"). This allows it to be turned into a general opposition to Islam and "Islamism"/"political Islam", which allows him to extol the virtues of Israel ("only democracy in the middle east!") to the poor White boys who are expected to die for it.

Nativism -> opposition to specific practices of immigrants -> anti-Islamism -> neo-conservatism.

Point this out and he will call you a racist just like anyone else who takes issue with White people wanting their countries to survive as they are. This entire grift stops the formation of a genuine political movement that would give an intelligent voice to the concerns of the common people, and the Jeremy Kyle-esque optics of the man conditions others to view their own people with disgust.

I see him as a mixture of David Duke and Lindsey Graham. I despise him, not because he harms my people (everyone else does that already), but because he does so while pretending to help them. Even Judas felt remorseful; Yaxley-Lennon has convinced his victims that he is their messiah.
 
the British love calling Americans fat and making school shooting jokes. it's like the first thing they bring up when they learn you're American.
they love to do that but they immediately demand americans die when they fuck up in the wars in europe or asia.
Even in the Napoleonic era they were kidnapping americans to serve in the royal navy. WW1 and WW2 had more british guns made in america by the likes of remington or colt than in their own arsenals.
 
We don't even know what exactly he was arrested for, other than his own claim which has a high possibility of not even being true.

What's most likely is that he was arrested for losing a libel case and then airing a documentary containing false information (information he knows isn't true) about a person he owes 100k too, and is trying to spin it as a 'the goverment are trying to silence me!' issue in typical Tommy Robinson fashion.

Oh, did I mention he's 2 million pounds in debt, and bankrupt too? What a lovely chap.

I'm not getting into an argument here, so all I'll say is to look at his extensive criminal history. Notice the complete lack of convictions for anything to do with 'free speech'... other than the time he almost collapsed a criminal trial by being an attention seeking moron:
You site the Guardian and Wikipedia as legitimate sources lol no thank you.
 
It was probably about Muslim rapegangs.
No It wasn’t (though Tommy got his start in the public eye by forming the English Defense League in the wake of the Muslim grooming gangs. That was like 20 years ago. Keep up.)

There are two decent TL;DRs on this thread about what this has to do with, I wrote one of them.
 
And today Tommy Robinson has been arrested* under the Terrorism Act [ X ], reportedly for screening his own banned documentary at yesterday's event.
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I know very little about Tommy Robinson and he could be an opportunist grifter for all I know, but it sure is starting to look like he's a persecuted unfavorable. Which is to say: regardless the truth of the matter, the silly fuckers are building the man his own legend.

ETA: There is a protest on Downing Street, currently being livestreamed here.

* ETA 2: The Met deny it [ X ]. Quite the puzzler.
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ETA 3: This posted yesterday suggests otherwise [ X ]. The social media monkeys must not be in the loop.
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I forgot Tommy Robinson existed, he achieved fuck all, he's definition of sensationalist whore. I need a reminder what made Tommy famous again?
 
Tommy built up evidence of a cover up of the Syrian's behaviour from the local council, however as it was mostly Tommy with a hidden camera, talking to ex-teachers who had signed NDAs, this evidence was dismissed in court and he lost the case, ordered to never reveal the footage.

He's now released said footage.

My take: From a legal perspective it makes sense why the footage would be banned from leaving the court, and why he's been arrested for doing so. The sheer level of national brain rot that allowed this situation to happen in the first place is the real issue.
My take is whether or not Tommy is a retarded asshole (he is), that is absolute hot shit.

So he says something true, gets sued for libel for it, gets evidence it's true, it's thrown out over an NDA that someone else, not him, had signed, and then they get to vilify him publicly forever and he isn't allowed to produce the evidence that he isn't a liar.

Legally speaking if you violate an injunction like this you're going to get held in contempt at least, but I can't agree with the injunction at all.

Even in the U.S., if you violate an injunction, even if it's later found to be blatantly unconstitutional, you can still be held in contempt for it, but you can also always appeal an injunction (or a request to modify or dissolve one) immediately in an interlocutory way (that is while the case is still ongoing) and when it's First Amendment it will often be stayed pending that appeal.

So whatever my opinion of the dude (rather low) is, he's getting royally shafted here and this is some Orwellian horseshit.
He libelled (rather than defamed, since it was in a published work) a literal child over a school fight, lost the libel case, had to pay compensation and presumably part of the outcome of that case was that he was given an injunction to bar him from repeating/rebroadcasting the libellous/defamatory statements.
That's bull. He got the statements that proved what he said was true AFTER being sued for libel, they were excluded on a technicality, he lost the case because they decided to exclude his evidence, and then he got slapped with an injunction so that he can't even present the evidence to the public (or rather he can but now he is getting slapped with the injunction and it was rather imprudent to break it but imo it is basic civil disobedience).

Whatever other shit I may say about him, the guy has cojones, even though he's a little short in the marbles department.
Interesting that this has happened now though. Is this a sign of what Starmer's government will be like? Just arrest the opposition that tries and actually push back instead of playing designated controlled opposition?
He has a good grasp on PR and that it draws attention to your cause, and he's willing to go to jail for it, even a jail full of the very nogs and slimes who hate him.
 
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It's baffling that he would even stay in the UK and do this given free speech doesn't even exist in the UK. Not saying he's asking for it, but if your doing and saying anti-regime things in a totalitarian police state hellhole...well, you shouldn't be surprised when the bobbies come knocking. Good luck Tommy, and fuck the UK and britbongs in general.
Yeah I don't quite know wether to bless him for having the balls to do this or say he's a well intentioned dumbshit. This is only slightly less stupid than refusing to bow to trannyism on Twitter, with your real name as your username, without J K Rowling levels of wealth to defend you.
 
He's not exactly some lily-white academic.
That's precisely his appeal. Fuck RP-accent snooty class-conscious Limey faggots.

He's just an opportunistic scumbag, and no martyr.
So because I think Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (yes, that's his real name) is a piece of shit I'm 'pro gang rape'? No... I just think that criminals like him who have a history of grifting deserve to have the book thrown at them when they knowingly and repeatedly break the law.
We already know you Limeys are low-IQ spineless faggots. My ancestors left their less-intelligent cowardly siblings and cousins behind centuries ago, and we (white) Yanks are the beneficiaries of that founder's effect. We already know you held your sister's legs open while foul-smelling, inbred, shit-skinned hideous Paki vermin raped her. You didn't have to come here and post about it making it even more obvious.

kys

Also Americans "Britain is all England in London accents"
Never mind England entire; we only wish London's accents were London accents. Instead, your capital city and one of the capital cities of the European patrimoine is full of hideous foul-smelling Third-World-savage filth.

If only we could easily hear London accents in London.


I spent 8 months in London a couple of decades ago; when I visited in 2018 I wanted to weep.


Shame on you cowards for not having rivers of blood and pogroms years ago already.

You’d think he would have learned to stop acting like a nigger at this point.
The only niggers in the UK are the racially inferior scum who benefit from the laws made by upper-class Limey faggots.

I welcome the top hats because I am righteously angry.

Limeys: mudslimes, shit-skins, and your cops are your mortal enemies.

PS The people calling Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon a pure grifter after spending so much time in gaol and prison and suffering so much targeted harassment to himself and his family are as dumb as those who say Trump staged his assassination attempt.

Whenever he tries to "grift" a bit of dosh more power to him. He deserves some remuneration for what he does.
 
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Never visiting Britain. Never. A literal documentary can get you arrested for terrorism. That's not even counting the butter knife loicences.
I'd be less worried about the documentary and more worried about the fact you're a Mormon welder. They'll probably think you're going to slap together a Sten or five out of random bits in a garage like MacGuyver.
Most of us don't tend to go into the US thread posting "imagine being American" and making school shooting jokes whereas Americans only ever come to this thread to make loisecnse jokes.
You are all condemned to suffer for the sins of @Beautiful Border .
Because its funny. And I am tired of pretending its not.
Can you imagine that this is a nation that once ruled the world? The people that brought an end to Napoleon are terrified of mean tweets and hurtful documentaries.
Never understood why the King's great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather being a German who inherited the throne through his British grandmother is thrown around like it's some kind of own tbh. Is it the fossilised form of some Puritan anti-Hanoverian sentiments brought over by English settlers and embedded into American political mythology?
Who said anything about the Americans? The House of Coburg and Saxe-Gotha didn't change its name to Windsor on our account.
 
I'd be less worried about the documentary and more worried about the fact you're a Mormon welder. They'll probably think you're going to slap together a Sten or five out of random bits in a garage like MacGuyver.
I'd need a mig machine for that, which needs some nitrogen and co2 tanks. I can't imagine the license shit I'd have to go through to obtain that shit.
 
They really can't leave that man alone can they?
The people in charge really want to make an example of Tommy Robinson. You have to remember all of the people in charge can't have Tommy let people think it's okay to criticize Islam or immigration. The powers that be will pull back on the trans shit, they will let the woke lose a few battles. But the demographic replacement of mostly white western nations into brown third world slave masses is still the main goal. Tommy Robinson can say Islam is a disease and that's allowed.
But Tommy can't be allowed to speak up against the sacred cow that is mass migration.
 
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