Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

The concept of "high-value women" (meaning women who want to actively build long lasting partnerships and demand loyalty from their partner) wanting "high value men" in return, and not accepting any others, is usually lost on men.

That's almost completely lost on an entire generation of people of both genders I think.
Both genders demand to "hold the other responsible" but can't police their own gender.
Plus you can't really hold these people accountable outside of your own actions because there's so many of them you'd be one getting stoned instead of them.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I’m tired of women’s work being undervalued. I was looking at jobs that are typically women dominated, and despite the cost of services (such as childcare, K-12 education, nursing, and therapy), the pay is pretty abysmal despite the education requirements usually associated with them. Pretty much everyone that works in a woman dominated field, which typically involves kids, is massively underpaid.

In addition to that, the cruelest trick is that women usually end up having to pay more in healthcare than men, and will have more time out of the workforce due to raising kids. Then getting back into the workforce, the gap in raising kids is seen as a detriment, despite the push from multiple governments worldwide to get people to have more kids.

 

[keke]

It is quite amazing to watch the non-religious American obsession with mutilating babies from outside. Like, are you planning to raise such a retard that he will not be able to wash his own penis? Are you personally such a retard that you won't be able to wash your baby's penis? Maybe you should get all his teeth pulled, too. Get his nails burnt off. Basic fucking bodily hygiene is beyond you??

Why the fuck would you cut off a chunk of your baby so that you didn't have to clean them??

Also, this "he won't look like his daddy" why the fuck is his daddy showing him his dick? It is possible to go happily through life never having seen your father's wang.

Hot take but no woman should care this much. “mutilating babies” lol even men don’t give a fuck, if they did it would stop TOMORROW.

Like, are you planning to raise such a retard that he will not be able to wash his own penis?

Have you met men? They’re all just like that.

Speaking of "women being the ones more likely to initiate divorce"

A YouTuber called ‘Actual Justic Warrior’ has a video called ‘Tim Pool is wrong about divorce’ which debunks commonly cited stats. https://youtu.be/DC6g5FYeQz4 link, cba with the embedding. Good video and the comments are aids, men actually crying and citing divorce rape fantasy TikTok’s as proof. It’s not even funny how dire it is for the women enduring these moids.

 

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I’m tired of women’s work being undervalued. I was looking at jobs that are typically women dominated, and despite the cost of services (such as childcare, K-12 education, nursing, and therapy), the pay is pretty abysmal despite the education requirements usually associated with them. Pretty much everyone that works in a woman dominated field, which typically involves kids, is massively underpaid.

It's also fun to watch people denigrate woman-dominated jobs as being easy. CVICU nursing is one of the most stressful jobs in existence thanks to the fact that all of your patients can crash without warning. Most people can't handle doing a 12-hour shift where you have to be "on" all the time or someone FUCKING DIES. Especially fun when it's coming from IT bros who just stare at a computer screen all day.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

I’ve noticed that men get sad when women troon out because “all the tomboys are disappearing”. But these men only seem to care about the most feminine, most sexual tomboys. If the woman is a butch lesbian, they couldn’t give a shit that she’s trooning out.

 

[Mayhem]

I’m tired of women’s work being undervalued. I was looking at jobs that are typically women dominated, and despite the cost of services (such as childcare, K-12 education, nursing, and therapy), the pay is pretty abysmal despite the education requirements usually associated with them. Pretty much everyone that works in a woman dominated field, which typically involves kids, is massively underpaid.

In addition to that, the cruelest trick is that women usually end up having to pay more in healthcare than men, and will have more time out of the workforce due to raising kids. Then getting back into the workforce, the gap in raising kids is seen as a detriment, despite the push from multiple governments worldwide to get people to have more kids.

This has been part of the push to move women into STEM fields: instead of working towards pay parity in (extremely important) fields dominated by women, women are told instead to avoid working in education, nursing, and social work and instead pursue degrees and training in fields traditionally dominated by men. But there are, of course, some problems with this:

1. Education, nursing, and social work are still essential fields of work with high rates of growth, and this movement has caused huge shortages of workers in those fields that are instead being filled by immigrants and people with very little training who are willing to take these low-wage, low-prestige jobs.
2. Male-dominated fields have not always been male dominated - for instance, computer programming used to be dominated by women because it was seen as repetitive work suitable for the inferior female brain and it freed up more important tasks for men. (See the movie Hidden Figures.) As computer science became more institutionalized as a career field, it became male-dominated, prestigious, and higher-paying. Medicine has, traditionally, been the same; women were the community healers until their practices were labelled as witchcraft and the ability to "practice" medicine became associated with a university education, which only men could obtain.
3. Women who are trained to work in STEM fields often report that they encounter sexism, sexual harassment, and are still likely to earn less and be promoted less often than their male colleagues. Additionally, fields within STEM that tend to be more dominated by women are less respected and regarded as "real" science, such as the biological sciences, psychiatry, family medicine, and anthropology.

 

[Glossy Paper]

I’m tired of women’s work being undervalued. I was looking at jobs that are typically women dominated, and despite the cost of services (such as childcare, K-12 education, nursing, and therapy), the pay is pretty abysmal despite the education requirements usually associated with them. Pretty much everyone that works in a woman dominated field, which typically involves kids, is massively underpaid.

If more moids get into these fields, they'll invent some bullshit number metric to assign to their own performances, and get paid more doing the same thing with pretentious titles like 'strategic child assessment and care specialist'.

 

[Thé au lait]

I’ve noticed that men get sad when women troon out because “all the tomboys are disappearing”. But these men only seem to care about the most feminine, most sexual tomboys. If the woman is a butch lesbian, they couldn’t give a shit that she’s trooning out.

Usually I see them bitching that someone is "turning the tomboys gay" or "convincing" them that they are, because cause and effect is a little difficult for these types.

 

[keke]

instead of working towards pay parity in (extremely important) fields dominated by women

Scrotes love to talk about wars they’ve never fought and hard labour jobs they’ve never worked, but would they be there for all the men that broke their backs in the mines and are now elderly? No, that would be lines and lines of women who work in care homes and as nurses.

 

[Mayhem]

Scrotes love to talk about wars they’ve never fought and hard labour jobs they’ve never worked, but would they be there for all the men that broke their backs in the mines and are now elderly? No, that would be lines and lines of women who work in care homes and as nurses.

That's all immigrant work now, though. Even bedside nursing is regarded as drudge work only suitable for immigrants - if you've been in or visited a hospital lately, you will see it. Nursing was quite lucrative for a bit during covid (those nurses worked their asses off for that money, though), but those gains have largely fallen away after the pandemic and a lot of women have left the field due to stress, long hours, and consistently low pay.

What I see, politically, is a growing movement to get women out of work altogether, not shunt them into supposedly higher-paying fields. Education and nursing are now being denigrated as woke - part of this is due to the fact that these fields are also usually more popular amongst women who are planning to have children, and part of it is because there are more women in minority populations who also work in these fields because you don't have to go to Yale to be a good nurse or teacher. But now you see a lot of right-wing men with very well-educated and wealthy wives insisting that women who want careers are denying their true roles as wives and mothers: eg. "nothing is as fulfilling as being a mom," "women who don't have children shouldn't vote," "childless cat ladies." I really fear for the future. College enrollment is way down both due to population decline and because of the perception of a college education as low-value and inessential to the true role of women as wives and mothers. What would happen if there were no women to become nurses, teachers, or social workers? Men certainly don't want those jobs; pesky kids and elderly, sick people get in the way of porn and vidya consumption.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

Usually I see them bitching that someone is "turning the tomboys gay" or "convincing" them that they are, because cause and effect is a little difficult for these types.

But aren’t a lot of masculine women already gay? I don’t know how someone becomes gay, but there does seem to be a lot of overlap between masculine behavior in females and lesbianism.

 

[keke]

But aren’t a lot of masculine women already gay? I don’t know how someone becomes gay, but there does seem to be a lot of overlap between masculine behavior in females and lesbianism.

once upon a time, yes, but they’re all pooners or non-binary now. I’ve only ever heard lesbians complain about the lack of tomboys who aren’t troons now, never men.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

all I am really looking for is a mature man with a good, decent-paying job (not because I am a gold-digger, but because I also have a good, decent-paying job)

This is one of the most insidious aspects of the incel mindset: the idea that a woman wanting a man who is capable of providing for her so she can be a SAHM makes her a “gold-digger.”

I think this is the root of their “all women are whores” perspective. They view the few men who are capable of supporting this kind of arrangement as “paying for sex.”

 

[keke]

This is one of the most insidious aspects of the incel mindset: the idea that a woman wanting a man who is capable of providing for her so she can be a SAHM makes her a “gold-digger.”

I think this is the root of their “all women are whores” perspective. They view the few men who are capable of supporting this kind of arrangement as “paying for sex.”

They themselves have nothing and think they are owed a sex-slave and baby-maker/raiser. The idea women may get to choose men who have some sort of stable income or are even wealthy enrages them. The deal is supposed to be high-status men > low-status men > extremly low-status men > women. Women getting choices disrupts that.

They don’t care about their idea that those men are paying for sex. They care that they are unable to do so themselves. Rather than reflect, they turn into rape chimps.

 

[Thé au lait]

But aren’t a lot of masculine women already gay? I don’t know how someone becomes gay, but there does seem to be a lot of overlap between masculine behavior in females and lesbianism.

Exactly, alot of us feel completely uncomfortable dressing or acting "feminine" because it feels like a gross contrivance and we don't want the male attention.

once upon a time, yes, but they’re all pooners or non-binary now. I’ve only ever heard lesbians complain about the lack of tomboys who aren’t troons now, never men.

There's still plenty out there, it's just harder to find them now. They're much more likely to get groomed into that shit, especially because there's no real option to have a community for homosexuals that's not instantly hijacked by moids/troons. The current poon numbers for the US are at 20% for homosexual women in the 18-25 age range.
This has actually sparked movements in China and Taiwan lately to provide more outreach toward "鐵" (masculine-dressing) women so that they know they're accepted and loved as they are, and don't feel like they have to troon out. I think China's started in Hangzhou (big shocker, I know).
Speaking of China and homosexuality, I just want to add this because it's really sweet: China's Olympic diving team are a couple, and there's a bunch of really cute pictures of one bridal carrying the other during a ceremony:
Unsurprisingly the western response has been "nuh uh that's just their culture, that's not gay at all!" while these two are out of the closet as a couple

 

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Even bedside nursing is regarded as drudge work only suitable for immigrants - if you've been in or visited a hospital lately, you will see it.

Immigrants are the only ones who will deal with the bullshit on units like med/surg where geriatric men will try to grope you whenever he's not busy trying to swan dive out of bed and bust his head open on the tile. Working conditions for nurses are bad. Everyone knows it. Nobody wants to do anything about it.

The field is already looking pretty bleak because nurses just quit. When the most experienced nurse on your unit has been there for two whole years it's not looking good.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I have had all sorts of female friends, therefore I've been a part of many conversations about which guys other women like. As shilled as black moids are in media, in the real world, it is actually rare for non-black women to find them attractive and it is even more uncommon that they date them. The overwhelming majority of people in every race date not only within their own race, but their own ethnic group. Meaning white women mostly date white moids. Non-white women that date outside of their race tend to date white too.

occasionally I'll come across a white woman who has some curiosity about/attraction to black men but it is like a novelty for them. I'm shocked when I hear about non obese/non white trash women seriously dating/marrying them. Usually they are white trash even if they aren't poor.

I’m open to judging individuals on an individual basis but come on. Even niggers who seem clean and competent often are still one bad day from chimping out, etc.

 

[starbies]

Something I find extra contemptible about Ethan Ralph moids is how much they like to publicly praise their mothers, like that somehow cancels out their unrepentant woman hate. "Luv me mum" types are some of the vilest misogynists you'll ever have the displeasure of encountering.

The "only good woman you know" is the one that literally wiped your ass. Shocker. We can see right through you, retard. All women are evil blah blah blah besides the one who was in service to you.

I'm not really up to speed on Ethan Ralph lore but this is such a Poojeet mentality. "my mam the best saar" is a slippery slope that ends in the moid being "married" to their mothers. They do all but have sex. I saw the term being called emotional incest in Reddit because unsurprisingly a lot of female redditors are married to these type of men.

Immigrants are the only ones who will deal with the bullshit on units like med/surg where geriatric men will try to grope you whenever he's not busy trying to swan dive out of bed and bust his head open on the tile. Working conditions for nurses are bad. Everyone knows it. Nobody wants to do anything about it.

The field is already looking pretty bleak because nurses just quit. When the most experienced nurse on your unit has been there for two whole years it's not looking good.

The problem is immigrant women are fine with tolerating all sorts of bullshit, and the government is happy as they don't have to change the conditions for women who genuinely want to work. Maybe a rant for the pickme thread but South Asian and South-East Asian women's mentality drives me up the wall. Think about the 4B movement. Even in a tiny hut in a backwater African village, you'll see women/girls making TikToks on why they support the 4B movement. I've seen even married women supporting the 4B. There's only one group of women that have nothing to say about it, if they've even heard of it in the first place - and that is Brown women. Some of them even go out of their way to misrepresent Feminist talking points, all just to suck white dick

comment section full of white-dick-chasers, mammies and geriatric passportbros, as usual.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

comment section full of white-dick-chasers, mammies and geriatric passportbros, as usual

There is no way women are following this channel



This is pure old codger bait and grift and scamming somewhere probably.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

This has actually sparked movements in China and Taiwan lately to provide more outreach toward "鐵" (masculine-dressing) women so that they know they're accepted and loved as they are, and don't feel like they have to troon out. I think China's started in Hangzhou (big shocker, I know).

It's funny how the MGTOW podcasters keep saying "Go east" when they have many of the same issues as the US.

Recently (literally this year), China just reformed the federal law law on divorce to guarantee 50/50 split of assets and that child raising and household work counts as employed for this specific law. The old law basically guarantied nothing for the woman since domestic/child rearing work was not considered "work" nor the responsibility of men.
It's oddly specific and it targets the very specific segment of men in Chinese society. Generally raised in rural or smaller cities and first generation educated in college.
These folks generally want woman for sex, kids, and also for her to take care of him when he gets older, but sees her as beneath him because "domestic contributions aren't cash earning" and will divorce the woman if she gets sick in a heartbeat for a younger woman.

That video of this 60 year old dude on that dating show probably didn't help lmao. His ass got lynched online so hard he unalived himself.

Fun fact: China has the highest incidence rate of lung cancer in women worldwide, a lot of people suspect it is from cooking with natrual gas (contains benzene) and the amount of smoke some dishes produce.