Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

[behindyourightnow]

I love Joe’s greatest Twitter hits. By his own genius logic stapling some dead man’s testicles onto a pooner would result in her producing sperm.

I wonder if his breeding adventures with Lilly opened his eyes to how the female reproductive system actually works, or he remains as blissfully retarded as before.

Worse than that, stapling some dead guy's urethra (or other random piece of anatomy) would make her produce sperm, because all the bits are interchangeable and who knows where that stuff comes from anyway?

While I was searching for that old post in the thread I found this post as well. On a trip to the UK in 2021 he bragged that TERF ideas were so crazy and unpopular that no one even believed him when he mentioned them:



Didn't age well, much like Joe himself. It's interesting to look back at 2021 when he was still making an active effort to be a troon, as opposed to now when he's barely even phoning it in.

 

[Autistic Nonetheless]

All this ‘my baby‘ stuff would be more understandable if Lily was some long beloved member of the polycule, equally dear to Mal and Joe alike. She isn’t. She showed up relatively recently and was just a sidepiece who wanted a kid bad enough to fuck Joe. That they now seem happy together is a typical enough mess for a queer relationship where people pick favorites and cycle through partners on the regular. But with Mal having no claim to the child this just comes off as tragic. It’s like she doesn't get that this is a different world.
For how unlikable she is i do feel sorry for her.

I will say Joe will have a hell of a time dropping Mal. Since the moment this turns spiteful half of this thread is gonna come back to haunt him. All this ‘haha im just treating my husband like shit because he is actually into it’ is gonna look real fucking sinister the moment someone from their planet decides to call it abuse.

BTW if my memory serves me right I do remember Joe causing all sorts of union/student-body problems over at Berkeley. Taking the student line against the faculty and hinting that he had ‘stories to tell’ etc.

It’s just that he’s been quiet, and somehow i dont think it’s because those problems are resolved.

 

[Bookwork]

somehow i dont think it’s because those problems are resolved

This. It's long seemed to me that there's a Rhys McKinnon situation playing out a little more slowly and more quietly than it did in Charleston because Berkeley is more complex and Joe is (a little) less stupidly self-destructive.

They want him gone, he thinks it's his idea, but dumping a tenured member of staff means a lot of boxes have to be checked first with the dumpee's personality disorder doing most of the work.

 

[Constellationzero]

Having a big vocabulary doesn't mean you can write. If you don't know how to properly use that vocabulary then you're just writing big words to sound smart. And no, nonny-chan, she can't write. What she's doing is schizoposting with big words. She has no idea how to put said words together in a way that is enjoyable to read or even makes any sense for anyone else. I think every English major should have "How Not To Write Like A Pretentious Twat 101" as a mandatory class.

Quoting this from the Sarah Guilbeaux thread. This sums up perfectly, both Sideshow Joe, and FAILory to a tee!

 

[Bookwork]

Good writing is good thinking, and it is right there at the starting gate that our pretentious pets neck themselves.

 

[Nothing To See Here]

I wonder if his breeding adventures with Lilly opened his eyes to how the female reproductive system actually works, or he remains as blissfully retarded as before.

The answer to any question along the lines of “is Joe retarded” is always “yes”. I don’t think Lilly’s pussy is quite powerful enough to change his fundamental stupidity single handedly.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

The answer to any question along the lines of “is Joe retarded” is always “yes”. I don’t think Lilly’s pussy is quite powerful enough to change his fundamental stupidity single handedly.

Oh I was assuming oh Joe and Lilly had some level of reproductive coaching or help thanks to Joe’s estrogen adventures. This would have involved some nice nurse explaining the human reproductive systems to him because he obviously missed the basics they teach to adolescents.

 

[Dr. Butt]

If I was her dad, I'd 100% believe this whole downward spiral was because Joe was an actual demon who opened Mal up to possession.

It's because she's so spineless that she pretends to be an atheist and to not want children so that the other gawker writers people her age will like her. She's as much of a liar as Joe and her bed is hers to lie in.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

It's because she's so spineless that she pretends to be an atheist and to not want children so that the other gawker writers people her age will like her. She's as much of a liar as Joe and her bed is hers to lie in.

Do you think she still secretly and silently says her prayers before bed at night?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Do you think she still secretly and silently says her prayers before bed at night?

I doubt that much, but I have a sense she's got the underlying belief still, too. Part of why she accepts the miserable state she has in life is because she knows at some level she has earned it with her own sins.

 

[Trianon]

Bitch wrote "Texts from Jane Eyre" and somehow wound up as a scarier and more dread-inducing version of Bertha.

None of these people have a sliver of a thought of Jane's integrity. Imagine Lily learning her text fuckbuddy is married and actually thinking about someone other than herself? Or considering that someone wanting to open their marriage up is probably not mature enough to be a reliable partner in any way? She just seems dim.

 

[Bookwork]

Today, on Instagram, Joe announced, "proud to be normal." Given the photo he posted with it, it's possible he's saying Lily's proud to be normal since he included a haloed emojji and a baby angel companion. She certainly would have better claim to the word.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Oof. Damn. Celebrating his newfound heterosexual "normality" with his baby and the mother of his child. Mallory BTFO.

Can we start taking bets about how long it is until she's pushed out of the house and starts her "wow turns out I'm homeless uwu so quirky, adulting is hard when you're broke and couchsurfing" arc?

Edit: I will get rainbows for this, but: given that Joe is a coward and a conformist who desperately wants to fit in, and is always trying to "read the room" and do the next thing that will get him positive attention from the social circle he wants to be a part of, he actually functions reasonably well as a weathervane.

If he is suddenly pivoting, even ironically, to praise of being "normal" that's... a good sign?

(And yes, I'm aware of the forced Twitter meme calling Republicans "weird." The fact that so many Democrat thought leaders are taking extreme masturbatory pleasure in being able to finally call people weird again is still revealing. And if they consider the meme successful, they will absolutely take it as permission to course-correct and go after the "weird" people on their own side, who everyone hates anyway. I'm not talking about mass conversion to tradwifery, more of an attempted return to the Obama-era party when things felt more "normal")

 

[Bookwork]

Over in Muskville Joe objects to the state requiring *him* to pretend to see or think of Buck Angel as a woman and, in fact, objects to Buck Angel being "able to tell me he's a woman either."

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Spoiler: Text

Grace Lavery
@graceelavery
Aug 5
this is who terfs are trying to convince you is a woman

Hazel Appleyard​

@HazelAppleyard_​

Aug 2​

This is who the @Olympics are trying to convince you is a woman.​

little apricot tree
@inKittenVeritas
Aug 5
I don’t understand— this person *says* they are a woman …

Grace Lavery​

@graceelavery​

Aug 5​

That’s clearly not dispositive for anyone. I don’t care about who is a women, and if Buck Angel wants to be one, he absolutely can. I just object to the state requiring *me* to pretend to see or think of him that way.​

Umut Özkırımlı
@UOzkirimli
Aug 5
Oh, I do believe in self-ID. I just don't think that the way I "identify as" changes how others perceive me, or that I have the right to impose the way I i"dentify as" on others - e.g. file a complaint to their employers to get them kicked out of their job, expose them to public naming and shaming, call them "bigots", "fascists" etc.

(Your other tweet doesn't merit a reply. I don't respond well to insults and trolling.)

Grace Lavery​

@graceelavery​

Aug 5​

“I don’t respond well to insults and trolling”—good troll bro.​

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I don’t believe that Buck Angel should be able to tell me he’s a woman, either. I *do* think he has a right to use whatever facilities he wants without surveillance. And I think his opinion matters more than mine.​

ETA Context from Buck Angel's Xitter...

 

[monstrous bubo]

Today, on Instagram, Joe announced, "proud to be normal." Given the photo he posted with it, it's possible he's saying Lily's proud to be normal since he included a haloed emojji and a baby angel companion. She certainly would have better claim to the word.

Oof. Damn. Celebrating his newfound heterosexual "normality" with his baby and the mother of his child. Mallory BTFO.

Nah, he is still celebrating his transgressive! queer! family ironically. Remember, he and Tard Baby are straight with extra steps. They + Lily are a well known type of heteronormative family with extra steps: man, sidelined wife, and mistress. He will thus continue to get the benefits of a trad family with the benefits of posing as some sort of gender radical. So, like Henry VIII, Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn, but with the new religion of gender. Gotta hand it to the flabby narcissist, he has played that well. Far better than he has played his professional career.

 

[Potatis Salad]

There's more to Joe's"proud to be normal" blathering:

Spoiler: text

Proud to say that now we have a Stable and Typical Family Unit (STFU), we proudly avow reproductive futurism and believe that the state should incentivize (or reward) us at all costs. It’s good to know that one’s domestic arrangement is the bedrock of a normal, healthy society and that everyone else can fuckin do one. Praise the Lord (we’re Christians now too lol).

So, filtering through his layers of sarcasm, he's glad the Child Tax Credit was not renewed? He thinks the state should prioritize something other than the well-being of children when apportioning benefits? Ugh, he is disgusting in every way.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

There's more to Joe's"proud to be normal" blathering:
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So, filtering through his layers of sarcasm, he's glad the Child Tax Credit was not renewed? The state should not prioritize the well-being of children when apportioning benefits? Ugh, he is disgusting in every way.

I give up. I can tell he's annoyed about something, but beyond that, I have no idea what the hell he's babbling about this time.

 

[Pube Dandruff]

It sounds as if he's pissed off that the state is bestowing some kind of deserved benefit upon his circumstance.

Almost like he'd prefer to be persecuted ... But why would anyone want that?

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Oh, I know what's happening here.

A bunch of my most libtarded friends and acquaintances have decided that:

1. Trump is likely to be re-elected
2. When he is, anyone who isn't judged to be in a normal-enough family unit will be rounded up into the camps
3. Therefore, in order to survive the next four years, it's absolutely imperative they normalize themselves.
4. So they will "pretend" to be more conservative and normie than they really truly are in their bohemian, artistic, communist hearts.

In reality, all of these people are getting older and more conservative, and realize they don't want to deal with all the problems of their previous ideology.

They are genuinely moving toward the center, but this would make them an untouchable among their previous friends. So they have to say "ha ha ha, wink wink, we are sooooo very conservative and normal now, here we are moving to the suburbs and enjoying life with our baby and dog!"

I'm not kidding, these people are the "what if the barista thinks I'm dumb for the way I order my coffee" neurotics. They care what everyone thinks. They absolutely cannot just say "I'm starting to see the world differently and I don't feel as strongly attached to my previous political opinions, I've been convinced I was wrong about several things."

 

[everybody in Portugal]

Oh, I know what's happening here.

A bunch of my most libtarded friends and acquaintances have decided that:

1. Trump is likely to be re-elected
2. When he is, anyone who isn't judged to be in a normal-enough family unit will be rounded up into the camps
3. Therefore, in order to survive the next four years, it's absolutely imperative they normalize themselves.
4. So they will "pretend" to be more conservative and normie than they really truly are in their bohemian, artistic, communist hearts.

In reality, all of these people are getting older and more conservative, and realize they don't want to deal with all the problems of their previous ideology.

They are genuinely moving toward the center, but this would make them an untouchable among their previous friends. So they have to say "ha ha ha, wink wink, we are sooooo very conservative and normal now, here we are moving to the suburbs and enjoying life with our baby and dog!"

I'm not kidding, these people are the "what if the barista thinks I'm dumb for the way I order my coffee" neurotics. They care what everyone thinks. They absolutely cannot just say "I'm starting to see the world differently and I don't feel as strongly attached to my previous political opinions, I've been convinced I was wrong about several things."

"If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not still a socialist by the time he is 40, he is to be excommunicated and publicly shamed"

—Winston 'Woke' Churchill, probably.