Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[EpicGamerMoment]

Alright fuckers. I know you all love slop so here's the most recent dev build of Extremis Ultimus. https://www.mediafire.com/file/h3671gt75ny9b7c/Extremis-Ultimis.rar/file Enjoy.

Anyone try this yet ?

Otherwise you get shit like KR where Haiti had a bigger focus tree then Germany's or Austria's until the recent German update

KR went through a weird phase in 2018-2019 where they spent all of their energy on Central American countries nobody cares about instead of the majors severely lacking in content

 

[Ryona420]

LMAO someone pointed it out. The entire thread is also shitting on the devs for taking a whole year to make half content for Mexico. Panzer for all his faults at least kicked these faggots into high gear to make slop content. Its gonna be slop either way but might as make it full slop then half-assed slop.

 

[Throng of Titans]

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LMAO someone pointed it out. The entire thread is also shitting on the devs for taking a whole year to make half content for Mexico. Panzer for all his faults at least kicked these faggots into high gear to make slop content. Its gonna be slop either way but might as make it full slop then half-assed slop.

"Oh, you want to play the postwar nations of this post ww2 setting? What a racist, go play an irrelevant third world nation instead!"

 

[Ryona420]

"Oh, you want to play the postwar nations of this post ww2 setting? What a racist, go play an irrelevant third world nation instead!"

It would be like KR justifying their lack of content in Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Scandinavia, the Baltics, Balkans, etc as "being puppets or irrelevant" Kaiserreich as pointed out did have their own autistic LATAM update but they at least had passable content in Europe at the time and it was around the same time as the America update. Those nations that later in the thread they tried to claim is irrelevant have as much importance if not more then Mexico. OFC the Germans are going to care if the French somehow broke free of their control and joined the Italians or OFN. Or if they lose territory in their eastern holdings the entire autism about German WW2 or worse, those Eastern holdings also join the OFN.

 

[Loborion]

Equestria at war is on ironically the best hearts of iron mod clearly we just need to get bronies to work on everything.

What is funny to me is how EAW made "TNO-like" content before TNO (Pax Changeling) and with it's last update (Kiria) and it is still much more engaging than the slop that we recive.

Changelings are just Nazi Occupation Expy in their Pax content but it gave you so much to chew on: conquest of the rest of the continent, mechanics to bring those horses into the line, releasing protectorates to not bother about occuipation, player choice in the story, shaping your own approach to the situation with even an option to rise up again againt Changelings as Liberation Army with it's own content to account for that.
Tho it is not perfect of course, your leader after Pax starts become absolute idiot, lot of still boring stuff and that shitty Everfree Forest rebellion which is cool on paper but absolute dogshit after first try.

While on the other hand the newest content in Kiria lacks most of these flaws, tho it is still much more focused on story than on gameplay so people will dislike that approach but I don't care, content is fun. The sheer amount of paths that you can descend down is insane considering each has a different flavor in itself: Become bastion of democracy and bring peace by force againt the opressors, become a Megacorp running a country and conquering lands to build tourist resorts to profit of local culture, start communist peasant revolt which take a turn in 180 after your leader decides that she wants to be the new empress and finally rise up againt her as a city revolt on a timer.

Gonna post it's focus tree because in all honesty I haven't seen something like that, ever

Overall it's baffling that I can get much more invested in fucking animal characters playing politics than with other mods, the devs use the fact that they can make those characters from completely nowhere while not being bothered by "misinterpreting their ideas" to absolute best effort for just fun campaigns.

Damns that enough shilling I can get out of myself, hope it's not a bother

 

[VariableOverflow]

Gonna post it's focus tree because in all honesty I haven't seen something like that, ever

I have to ask, if you've actually seen it ingame, are those like regular focuses or continuous focuses? And in either case, if when you have that focus tree and you go check on the focus tree of another country, do those GUI elements like the text and the boxes still stick on the foreign focus view? It's something I never managed to crack myself, and while adding custom GUI elements on the focus tree is an excellent idea it sadly can cause trouble in the case I mentioned, viewing other focus trees.

 

[foreman 89]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the new Mexico update? What are the paths like? Are there any modern politics inserted?

 

[Loborion]

I have to ask, if you've actually seen it ingame, are those like regular focuses or continuous focuses? And in either case, if when you have that focus tree and you go check on the focus tree of another country, do those GUI elements like the text and the boxes still stick on the foreign focus view? It's something I never managed to crack myself, and while adding custom GUI elements on the focus tree is an excellent idea it sadly can cause trouble in the case I mentioned, viewing other focus trees.

Those are regular focuses, most of them if my memory serves me right is around 10 days and you have a much more conventional focus tree under it. And yes, it is visible to see this focus tree by a forgein country no problem. It's just pure wizardry code wise and it's treat mixed with wonder to play such content.

And here is actual kicker, since quite a few peps here sum up that the tranny or what nots ruin the modding menagment like TNO and other brainrot mods, in EAW it is quite the opposite, while having devs that are either a brony, furry or trans they menage to create enjoyable content with no enforcing of their own views.

One of the most fun to read paths in the mod for me was Aris First in Hippogriffia, which might be one of the rare cases where fascism isn't just killpeopleism or just generic bad guys, because devs know actually what fascism is and what it strive for while keeping characters as characters, hell, the leader of that path Crack Lighting before the Air Research Tree DLC had all the descriptions of planes replaced with his reviews of them in aviation maganize, where you could she that he despises bombing and nuclear warfare because it isn't showing the struggle of warriors in the sky, just senseless slaughter.

Despite being a asshole and pretty bad racist he still gets those earned moments that make him a bit more interesting than just Mussolini 2.0, and it is if I remember correctly written by the trans gal on their server, which I spoke to in the chat and was pretty nice mate to talk to.

Fuck me, another sperg that came out of me today XD

 

[Loborion]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the new Mexico update? What are the paths like? Are there any modern politics inserted?

In full honesty? It is such a shame that such a cool custom GUI is wasted on that. I wish TNO just kept to being with the current mechanics with much less mega projects because that is fucking ridiculus to have 4-5 special mechanics while only having 4 years of content

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

So what's everyone's thoughts on the new Mexico update? What are the paths like? Are there any modern politics inserted?

I'm gonna play the Mexicontent later today, but for the looks of it, you have a Guandong-like economy mechanic, with projected GDP goals and all that. From what others on the TNO subreddit say, the duration of the run is also rather short, around 4-5 hours in total

 

[Corpun]

I'm gonna play the Mexicontent later today, but for the looks of it, you have a Guandong-like economy mechanic, with projected GDP goals and all that. From what others on the TNO subreddit say, the duration of the run is also rather short, around 4-5 hours in total
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So it's another fucking spreadsheet masquerading as actual content. Just play fucking Vicky 2 where green line goes up and you have actual fun.

 

[Caligura]

The TNO devs still fully believe that their mod which is popular because of stuff like a random German civil war, every major Russian figure turning into a warlord, exterminating g*rms by thermonuclear war, gamer burgundy or "funny clock man murder raping Russia is a serious comment against authoritarianism.
At this point I wish Harry Turtledove or S. M. Sterling would make HoI4 mods instead (while being 30 - 40 years younger), at least those guys know that their althistory doesn't make sense.

You mean 90s/early 2000s Turtledove and not Nu-Turtledove who ran out of ideas and just ended up creating slop.

Nu-Turtledove wrote a really shitty and poorly aged Trump alternate history novel where he dies from covid and Pence turns the country into a discount Handmaiden's Tale but somehow California exits the union without any war and still does NeoLib shit globally anyways.

... Only this was a few months before Pence got known as the laughing stock who more or less pussied out of Trump's good graces. See, before 2021 your average normie thought Pence was the 'more fundamentalist' conservative over Trump before that facade more or less imploded on itself since Jan 6.

 

[Corpun]

... Only this was a few months before Pence got known as the laughing stock who more or less pussied out of Trump's good graces. See, before 2021 your average normie thought Pence was the 'more fundamentalist' conservative over Trump before that facade more or less imploded on itself since Jan 6.

Which is kind of funny because Pence hasn't even been given the Dubya makeover for his anti-Trump shit. Pence has just been quietly ignored and likely knows no one gives a shit about what he has to say.

 

[Caligura]

so the TWR toronto accords update came out, and it's a buggy mess that doesnt even have all of its content released lmao, if you want a rundown:
>france falls into civil war before hitler even dies
>PRC has no content
>japan has no content
>korea has no content
>philippines has content planned (for some reason lmao) but isnt implemented
>india content (the main communist power) supposedly wasnt even finished on release day
>canada content removed
>random iranian civil war for some reason
>new civil wars dont even have proper news events or events to core territory for the victor (see: congo uprising)
>second chinese civil war doesnt even have a news event
this guy is also one of their devs and spergs out at any mention of content being bad/unfinished
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some guy on the sub said "is it just me or does vozenesky content feel unfinished?" you know, the other novosibirsk unifier whose content literally ends after unifying the russian warlords (zero content afterwards to go to war with germany btw), and this guy instantly spergs out and comments something like 'fuck you', i cant remember exactly. it's like leebait but for historyspergs

>AgathaLeung

欧维... Broken branch, ancestor weep...

 

[Sooty Soot]

>AgathaLeung
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欧维... Broken branch, ancestor weep...

posts alot in the hongkong subreddit, so possibly a honghonker

 

[Caligura]

posts alot in the hongkong subreddit, so possibly a honghonker

https://www.agathaleung.com/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/agathaleung

Is this them? I'm skimming their profiles but this is the first result for their name. Their pfp looks sorta like a natal woman... But IDK.

 

[Sooty Soot]

https://www.agathaleung.com/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/agathaleung

Is this them? I'm skimming their profiles but this is the first result for their name. Their pfp looks sorta like a natal woman... But IDK.

wouldnt have a clue to be honest

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

https://www.agathaleung.com/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/agathaleung

Is this them? I'm skimming their profiles but this is the first result for their name. Their pfp looks sorta like a natal woman... But IDK.

Agatha is a woman. Like one of the 2 or so actual women in the HOI4 modding scene.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

So I've been playing around three years of the Mexicontent. This shit is Guangdong on 1980s soviet athlete level of steroids.

You remember that Guangdong has too many events too close together? Try every focus having a 4-paragraphs-long event associated with it, as well as multiple event chains happening on the background. Was managing the faction's influence on the states of Guangdong too distracting? Try having to click on 4 different categories of decisions so that "the economy" works properly.

And the damn minigames are also explained and designed in the most convoluted way possible. Once I finish this round, I will post the screenshots of this slog

 

[Caligura]

it's pretty telling that the modern day devs gave content to fucking micronesia first over iraq

Got a link for that? Sounds funny to read lmao. What even does Micronesia have? Out of  all the Pacific Island nations and it isn't New Zealand or Australia?