Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

If he really is a Brit then his post is even more retarded. You know how much of the UKs gas came from Russia before the war? 4 whole percent. Our gas price rises were less a direct result of prolonging the war and more a combination of the companies seeing a chance to gouge us, OFGEM doing literally nothing to stop them, and the Tory leadership being too busy measuring each other's back for a knife to make any preparations the way other countries did.
About a quarter of your energy bill is a levy to subsidise renewables, with another big chunk being the result mandated minimum options on renewable production regardless of the market price. The fact that the UK has virtually no gas storage left us open to market volatility, which was amplified at retail by those percentage-based levies, but even if gas prices had remained constant, our bills would have gone up massively over the last five years just to fund all of the unreliables.
 
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>For no Reason
Don't make me run apologia for Russia, because I don't want to.

The idea that wars are fought "for no reason" is just what people say, when they do not wish to recognize the rationale of their enemy.
The Russians have been making unhappy noises about being surrounded by Nato missile bases since before the cold war ended, but that's not convenient to agknowledge when you're busy larping as "Duh Good Guise" - which categorically, do not exist.
There's just the quick, and the dead.
"Surrounded" means west and south west borders, what happens if Russia captures Ukraine? It will demand the neighboring countries to quit nato? Also Putin talked with Tucker Carlson how Ukraine is historically Russian land, so it's all bullshit.

The Russians have shit reasons for the war, Ukraine has justified ones.

Because they're taking my fucking money, and fucking embezzling it.
Crazy how the ones who like the most to bitch about Jews being greedy are the ones who like to resort to THEY'RE TAKING MUH MONEY, as if even if it was literal suitcases of money the USA wouldn't use it for their money sinks of social services.
 
The thing that ukraine fears the most is the conflict freezing out, and with both sides building more trenches and planting more mines that was becoming more likely by the day, if the russians dont attack, they will become stronger and stronger, making your job more difficult, the ukranians need to force them to attack.

What they have done, taking a good amount of russian land is imo precisely what they needed, now the russians cant freeze the conflict, they have to take it back, we have seen it in the last days, entire columns being droned as the russians hastily counterattack.

Is the same strat the germans used against the french in 1916 and 1917 in WW1, after losing the northern areas of France, the french wasted millions of men in near suicidal attacks because you just cant stay iddle as the enemy controls part of your country.
It didnt work for the germans because the french had millions more men in the form of their allies, but Russia doesnt have that.
I dont know if this gambit will work, but it surely is a better idea than bashing your head against the main russian line in occupied ukraine, this way they will be able to inflict disproportionate losses on the russians again.

Also it gives the ukranians something in the negotiating table, previously they had nothing as they were only fighting in their own country.
 
100+ Russians chose life over dying for a "Bald Midget©®™"
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They're going to need to build new prisoner camps to handle this surge of EPWs.

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Another T-90M captured and put to work, this time in the Kursk Region.

Another General dead?

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I remember back in the middle of Iraq/Afganistan that the US had its own turn at the "Future Soldier" with Dragon Skin body armour that was supposed to be able to stop any conventional round and yadda yadda but nothing ever came of it.

I think it theory it could stop regular AK-47 and AK-74 rounds in common use by insurgents, but not M855A1. Probably not M855 at close ranges either, but I'm not sure. Maybe that would have depended on barrel length. I say "in theory", because the "scales" were glued in and tended not to stay where they were meant to be.

So here's the thing with Dragonscale. The "scales" are ceramic disks about the size of a US fifty cent piece (around 35mm). Each disk, or tile, overlapping another, static, is pretty bullet resistant. However, they're mounted with adhesive that breaks down after being hit, and all the disks fall down into the bottom of the vest. They're not good. What they had was a PR team running around in 2003, 2004 telling people stateside that "Oh boo hoo we've got this advanced new body armor and the military refuses to give it to your sons & daughters; did you know a US Army General uses Dragonscale but won't let Our Boys wear it?!" Even the idiots at Somethingawful.com tried to run a fundraiser to buy dragonscale armor for troops because that pack of midwits believed the hype. So the military issued a statement and said: if you get injured and discharged or die, no retirement/injury benefits will be paid or your family receive compensation if you were wearing dragonscale when you got hit, period. The "general who had his own dragonscale vest"? Yeah he got it as a gift. Didn't wear it in hostile environs. He just had a vest he was given.

Now, to future soldier: Nobody, not a single person, was touting future soldier the same as Ratnik-whatever class body armor that the Russians will totally have out tomorrow guys, just wait and see. What Future Soldier was, was data synthesis. Heavier body armor, but the focus was in digital integration, not LARPing as the master soldier guy from Halo. Helmet with HUD, thermals, better comms, etc. Not whatever bullshit the Russians cobbled together out of airsoft gear and stuck at a tech expo.

The reason Future Solider didn't go anywhere was 'cause nobody knew what the software and hardware environment looked like. The hardware platform's a moving target. When I saw a prototype of Future Soldier on display, the computer was an ultra-compact Pentium 2. Now think about something like a raspberry pie board doing the lifting but 1000x faster. But the thing is the hardware (and software) landscape changed so fast guys would design and propose shit...and a week later Intel, ARM, or somebody would release a smaller, faster, cooler, less power hungry chip, or a new Software platform. They couldn't lock in on one. That's why future soldier never went anywhere.
 
I basically agree with his analysis. It's hard to say when the exact best time to pull out of Bakhmut was, but simply giving up the city when it got really hot would have been a mistake.
Its worth pointing out that A. Russia was going to take it eventually given the sheer quantities of men and shells they were throwing at it and B. Ukraine managed to successfully pull out in good order from both Soledar and Bakhmut before the Russians could surround the defensive lines. So, ultimately while it cost Ukraine, it cost the Russians a hell of a lot more than it was worth. They were unable to capitalize on its capture due to their depleted forces in the area, and Ukraine was able to buy enough time to set up secondary defenses.

Hell, the people in the other thread pissed of Null so much with their "MUH CULDROON" nonsense that he came over here to bitch about them.
To be fair, modern heavy body armor could probably stop large conventional rounds, the issue is A.) It's so heavy it's useless in combat, and more importantly B.) The guy's organs are still going to be absolutely shredded from the kinetic energy alone, people tend to forget even if the bullet is stopped, if it's any sort of rifle round the dude is definitely gonna get knocked on his ass and have a nasty bruise.
It absolutely can. The latest ESAPI are about 50% heavier and about $600 for a chest plate, but they'll stop steel-cored AP rounds from .30-06. Granted, it won't feel pleasant at all, but you'll be alive. And before you ask, its just shy of six-and-a-half pounds for a Large. The basic SAPI plates can stop 5.56/5.45 threats, even AP, and its 4.6 pounds for a large. XSAPI is the next gen after that, and it can stop 7.62mm tungsten rounds, although the price is probably close to 1k and the weight likely around 8 pounds.
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That is of course the older 2000's era stuff, the latest vest from 2018 is fully modular and weighs 25 pounds for 360 degree torso protection, including neck, shoulder, and pelvic area. There's a reason the USSR has been so desperate to try and claim some sort of super body armor: your typical American infantryman can survive hits that would probably go clean through one mobik and nail the one behind him. Shockingly, it turns out 20 years of fucking around in Iraq and Afghanistan was good for something after all.

Well, that and prosthetic limb replacements, but uh... let's just say that wasn't worth the price.
 
Anyway, Belgorod Oblast joins Kursk after declaring the state of emergency. There are rumors a nation-wide state of emergency might be issued if situation isn't contained (it won't). At least, governors of border areas want that.
Of course they do, otherwise all the pressure is focused on them, that way they won't be the only ones in the shit. Diffusion of responsibility or some such.
They basically admit that they really have no idea how to deal with this situation.
 
Let them come out of their hugbox and embarrass themselves, the retard calls Ukraine the "CP capital of Europe", while possession of CP is itself legal in Russia, and child sexual exploitation, pornography, and prostitution are all extremely rampant, there is no need for anti-Russian NAFO redditor propaganda, when Russians themselves are open about the fact that they live in a degenerate shithole where even owning child porn is legal.
No wonder twice convicted pedo Ritter loves Russia.
 
Let them come out of their hugbox and embarrass themselves, the retard calls Ukraine the "CP capital of Europe", while possession of CP is itself legal in Russia, and child sexual exploitation, pornography, and prostitution are all extremely rampant, there is no need for anti-Russian NAFO redditor propaganda, when Russians themselves are open about the fact that they live in a degenerate shithole where even owning child porn is legal.
so often I find myself explaining in simple terms to an american that Ukraine's "problems", as touted by the russian propaganda arm in the US - cp, corruption - are all historically caused by russian influence, russia being the epicenter of this behaviour, and there is actually a war going on about that at the moment.
 
Apparently, Challenger 2 (a) is taking part in the Kursk incursion. It's almost certainly being used for bunker busting (what little there would be of it) and infantry support, which is the role it was designed for, even if it's meant to be a general purpose MBT. All this western armour finally getting to do what they were meant to do - storming across the plains of Eastern Europe - instead of playing around in a sandpit. Makes you a bit weepy.

More importantly, the use of British armaments in Russian territory hasn't provoked the oft-threatened nuclear response against London (more's the pity). In an idea world, this would mean uk.gov will finally allow the use of stormshadow there, but it's most likely they'll cuck out again.

WOOP WOOP obstacle, obstacle! Pull up! Pull up!
 
Despite all of the shit youtubers and other online people say about the Challenger II; it is still one of the best tanks for armor, crew protection and accuracy with the gun even if the FCS and placement of it being less than optimal. Thirty plus years in the sandbox like with the Abrams done much on how the upgrades should be done.
 
Yet another fire. They should really reconsider smoking while on the job.
Fire has broken out in the former factory area in Lyubertsy city in Russia’s Moscow Region, local media reported. Covering an area of 3,500 square meters, the fire was caused by a short circuit, according to the report. Ka-32 and Mi-26 helicopters were used to extinguish the fire. No casualties have been reported yet. Agricultural and military equipment, including "Buk", "Pantsyr" and "S-300" missile systems used to be produced at the currently inactive plant.
Anyway, he's really damn lucky
None of these conscripts expected to be in this sort of danger, nor wanted it.
I’m glad he’s ok. Putin sucks balls.
 
Allegedly the hohols are shelling Lgov on the E38 highway, which is... almost 80km due west of Kursk city and pretty far north

Now that they aren't banging their heads against 8 miles deep of minefields and trenches with massed artillery behind, that Western equipment is working pretty good
 
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