Where to live? - (if you are white)

[Key the Metal Shitposter]

For the record, im not saying wait around for someone to do something. Im saying that people are still too comfortable to be able to convince the majority of people of the necessity of White-only exclusionary communities. You probably wont see things like Orania until things are much much worse. Building something like that would also take investment and legal protection because anyone who tries to start something like that will get nuked from orbit by Jewish lawyers. If you just want to be away from minorities, move to the middle of Idaho. If you want Orania you need to be the change you want to see.

I don't want to pick a fight, but are you really sure that this is true?

Yes, evidenced by the fact that people are not doing it. There is growing desire for it but until someone with actual power or influence is behind it it might as well be no better than any other failed commune.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

you just want to be away from minorities, move to the middle of Idaho.

Yes but then you get Mormons and Injuns instead of niggers and spics. Pick your poison I guess.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

Mormons are predominantly E*glish ethnicity.

 

[Mellisuga Helenae]

Anywhere but Texas. Do you really want to be around a bunch of Mexicans and hillbillies? A boring state with nothing to offer other than terrible weather and the worst of both worlds politically? You're not a carpetbagging faggot, are you?

If you do come to Texas, be sure to take Joe Rogan back with you to whatever shithole you came from.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

While I don't discount the notion that it's important to live in a place where you're closer to your own kind of people, to people you can trust, and so forth... I wouldn't follow a white-only enclave to Antarctica. Geography/geology is important too. Whatever problems you have with Texas' population, they make up for it in geology.

In another thread, people are debating wind power... and one of the complaints is that it's tough to come by. Texas has that in spades. Sunlight too, if you prefer photovoltaics. It has a long, warm growing season. You won't be out there January desperately trying to rig up something in the barn so that the livestock doesn't freeze solid (despite what leftoids would have you believe when they were complaining that it wasn't hooked up to the national grid a couple winters back).

In west Texas, there's this place named Estilline Springs. Salt water just bubbles out of the ground. So much that in the 1960s the Army Corps of Engineers dammed it up so it wouldn't pollute the Brazos River. I hope to find some place like it myself, it'd be a basis for some decent chemistry (lye, bleach, hydrogen gas, hydrochloric acid, etc.) in addition to just having salt for culinary purposes. Weird fucking place, it was. A thousand miles inland, but there was some unique species of barnacles. And a small crab that was most closely related to ones in the Pacific Ocean.

You see alot of natural gas wells too. My god, if I could get the mineral rights to the land on top. It might just be worth it to have my own well drilled even as much as those cost... it wouldn't have to be commercially viable, what if just my own home used it? Even a shitty well that would play out in 10 years might last 100 or more. Not just for the energy either, scrubbers would dump the H2S to sulfur proper. That would unlock even more chemistry potential (vulcanizing rubber, tin recovery from scrap, anything sulfuric acid really).

I could grow cotton in Texas. I will, I think, grow it. Metric fucktons of cotton. Wool's good (can have that here too), but I'd like some cloth that doesn't feel like a sweater even when it's not a sweater. I can grow sissal here. Jute too, probably.

Fleeing all of that because there are too many spics makes me feel like I'm some sort of refugee, and I refuse to be one.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

You won't be out there January desperately trying to rig up something in the barn so that the livestock doesn't freeze solid (despite what leftoids would have you believe when they were complaining that it wasn't hooked up to the national grid a couple winters back).

Uh. False. I've had many bad winters in Texas.

10 F may not sound cold to a yankee sipping hot cocoa and looking out the window at their winter wonderland, but for animals acclimated to 70 F or higher, it can be deadly. Many goats freeze to death in Texas. None of my adult goats have, because I plan ahead, but I have lost cold kids and I have a few that I've brought back with CPR and warm water immersion.

I can't argue with growing cotton in Texas. I had a close friend in college who planned to be a cotton grower. Then the Navy made him an F-18 pilot and suddenly it's all "best job ever" this and "I'm literally drowning in top tier pussy dear god please help I'm serious" that.


Not that I'm envious.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

it'd be a basis for some decent chemistry (lye, bleach, hydrogen gas, hydrochloric acid, etc.)

Bruh just open an old well near Commerce, TX , the Hickory Aquifer, or in the Brazos valley, more salt than you can imagine. If you're lucky you get free radioactive Boron as well.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

There's so much sodium in College Station water that it feels like you're already lathered up before you get out the soap.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

There's so much sodium in College Station water that it feels like you're already lathered up before you get out the soap.

Pretty sure the joke in the Brazos valley is that the local guide mistook the surveyor saying "piece of shit" for "That's it!"

Could be Marlin though...

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

Or Hearne. Once a German POW camp, now a micro Detroit.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

Uh. False. I've had many bad winters in Texas.

Respectfully, this is what people in the Dakotas have to look forward to.

CNN - North Dakota cattle deaths due to blizzard

The article says 20,000, but I think I remember them revising the count up well north of 70,000. And that's just the big one that happens about once every 10 or 20 years. Smaller blizzards kill hundreds and single digit thousands nearly every year. Sometimes it's in Montana, or Wyoming, or South Dakota.

West Texas isn't comfortable in winter, I'll grant you. And I sympathize unloading a dock in 10°F weather. But no thousand pound animal full of fat freezes solid overnight in 4ft of snow in Texas. Not even in the 100 year storms (stupid Houstonians, on the other hand, well... what can I say?). If there is weather that says "stay the fuck away from west Texas", that's August, not January.

If you're lucky you get free radioactive Boron as well.

If I could get the non-radioactive boron, it'd be pretty fucking lucky indeed. Alas, there's only one mine anywhere in North America, and only like 3 worldwide. Yes, I have thought about maybe drilling for saltwater... but I don't think that's a cheap endeavor. Would probably need a proper geological report/survey, then tens of thousands to get the right depth, and a miracle to not contaminate a regular water well. Maybe if I win a lottery or something like that.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

Small ruminants do freeze to death in Texas. Cattle absolutely die in winter storms in the panhandle. Yes, it gets colder in the Dakotas, do you have any point at all? If you're not protecting your livestock because "mahurdurr dis ain't as cold as Fargo," I have zero respect.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

If you're not protecting your livestock because

It's a bit more than just "it gets colder". It dumped 4ft of snow on them out of season, reached -40°, and killed tens of thousands of cattle. And it does this regularly enough that it should have been only mildly surprising. There is not-insignificant additional challenge in the north, and it's really unclear to me what the positive differences are that it could be a reasonable tradeoff.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

I don't want to move to North Korea or Los Angeles, either. You're still talking out your ass when you say it doesn't ever get cold enough to harm animals in Texas.

If it wasn't a warzone, I'd live South of the Nueces.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

If I could get the non-radioactive boron, it'd be pretty fucking lucky indeed. Alas, there's only one mine anywhere in North America, and only like 3 worldwide. Yes, I have thought about maybe drilling for saltwater... but I don't think that's a cheap endeavor. Would probably need a proper geological report/survey, then tens of thousands to get the right depth, and a miracle to not contaminate a regular water well. Maybe if I win a lottery or something like that.

The Hickory aquifer has a ton of radioactive boron and radium in Central Texas. I won't pretend to be hydrologist but I can tell you there's high levels of radiation in that aquifer sometimes as shallow as 300 feet (The aquifers really shallow). Something about granite's natural decomposition on the uplift. One of the cities there threw a fit because a scrapyard wouldn't take old pipes, too radioactive.

 

[Sperg_rancher]

It's a bit more than just "it gets colder". It dumped 4ft of snow on them out of season, reached -40°, and killed tens of thousands of cattle. And it does this regularly enough that it should have been only mildly surprising. There is not-insignificant additional challenge in the north, and it's really unclear to me what the positive differences are that it could be a reasonable tradeoff.

One thing to note here is that a lot of cows need a colder climate to thrive. hitting 90F can be extremely stressful for a lot of dairy cattle.
For things like goats who want to roam year-round the north may not be ideal, but for cows and some chickens, it's just fine as long as they have some warm, clean bedding waiting for them.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

It occurred to me that @ChefBourgeoisie might have been talking about a cow *literally* freezing solid overnight, and wasn't just being picturesque. I agree that's unlikely to happen even in the "snowpocalypse" of 2021.

There's a reason once you get south of I-10, more and more cattle "have some ear on them." Bos Indicus and their crosses thrive in South Texas and Florida, but a Simmental will simmer.

Our goats didn't much care for the 118 F we had last week. Maybe I can cross them with camels?

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

There's a reason once you get south of I-10, more and more cattle "have some ear on them." Bos Indicus and their crosses thrive in South Texas and Florida, but a Simmental will simmer.

Yeh, those freezes up there can be brutal. I sometimes wonder why they don't get yaks (furry cows), Bos grunniens. Maybe the summer heat's still too much for that species, dunno. I once asked my animal science professor something like this, and he just kind of hand-waved it away. At the time I took him to mean that he thought European cattle were more or less perfect, and there was no reason to worry about other species. Years later, I realized that he was just cow-racist, preferring European/Aryan cattle, and dismissing Asian/African cattle as genetically inferior.

Our goats didn't much care for the 118 F we had last week.

Damn. Yeh, it's been bad out here in west Texas, but I don't think it got much over 105°ish. I'd have to check. Hope it cools down a bit for ya, that's just insane.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

I realized that he was just cow-racist

I had an animal science professor who would say in his cowboy accent, "don't be a cattle racist!" That guy ruled.

 

[Helarctos]

I would like to add to this thread that there is, in fact, a growing desire for Whites only communities in the US. It's technically legal to do so but only if you play some legal games. There's a group called the Return to the Land association that is buying up land in Arkansas and only allowing private members of the group buy and live on parcels of said land. I'm of the notion that this is our only way forward as a race, just as they're doing in Orania.
Keep an eye on these guys if you're a racially conscious White and looking to relocate, in the future they have plans to expand beyond Arkansas and from what I hear, there's quite a few guys in the PNW.
Here's a QRD from the horse's mouth