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Even if I were to take this position at face value, every non-reproductive woman will correlate to at least one non-reproductive man.

However, I disagree that women are facing a reproductively crisis. It is increasingly viable for women to raise a child as a single mother with the western social welfare system and child support laws. Very few reproducing males are required to sustain this system.

I think natural selection is having a field day at the moment. Men, especially those with Peter Pan syndrome are being heavily selected out of the gene pool. Women to a lesser extent, because modern medicine allows them to reproduce at their leisure until their 40s.
It is, but it isn't selecting traits that are good for humanity or its civilisation on purpose. It is in caveman mode and is selecting the thuggest Tyrone.
Parasitizing male taxpayers are though. You pay for kids that aren't yours whether or not you have some to support already.

And they're selecting a bunch of third world rapist brownies as our replacement. I'm sure it'll end well.

[insert businesswoman who froze her eggs but all her IVFs failed here]
It won't end well but it will be Designated and funny from a distance.
There is literally a positive correlation between high intelligence and sexual failure. The more intelligent you are the less likely you are to have had a girlfriend, been married, or had casual sex, maybe women self select for physical traits like high levels of musculature but I see plenty of women with flabby junkies so even that might be dubious but women absolutely do not select for intelligence.

The most sexually successful men in America are unemployed black men with felony records.
So you’re saying our future is literally idiocracy.
Well, yes. Women look for partners who are physically intimidating, exciting and wild. Tyrone with 50 tattoos, a gold plated gun, and more roids than Hulk Hogan's closet is a very good bait for monkey brain. This is because such men were a better bet for pre-civilisation times. You wanted someone strong, who will adventure to new lands and use your womb to populate it, and fend off any predators. Taking a few punches for that, as far as evolution was concerned, is a good deal.
Thousands of years of evolution has enabled women to sniff out genetic dead ends with incredible efficiency.
The problem is that they are calibrated to find the most aggressive cavemen they can find. Evolution doesn't work in a few generations that way. Even with heavy eugenics it would take a few generations to take effect. But that isn't on the table for the west.
But what if all we ended up doing in the end was feeding them, sterilizing ourselves, and going extinct, leaving them to go back to the Stone Age and wander the bones of our now-depopulated cities?
It will be an interesting reset for sure. While that is a romantic idea, the cities will be taken over by yellows or arabs. The west does not exist in its own little bubble, untouchable by the rest of the world. Will the next Cortez be called Chang, or will it be Abdul? Hopefully he won't be called Pajeet.
My overall opinion is the cream of the crop for men are statistically the ones who find a way to reproduce in this genetic gauntlet.
Tyrone isn't the cream of the crop. Evolution isn't a sapient divinity, it is a simple bio-chemical process. Idiocracy on a natural level, just look at how sexual selection can smash and slam a species like peacocks. It is a common liberal atheist delusion to still ascribe to it traits that are theocratic, same with nature. Gaia and Evolution aren't deities with their own personality and plans, they are physical systems that are based on physics, chemistry, biology. Like any automated script, it can go horribly wrong.
Women, for better or worse, primarily make decisions with their gut. The reason for this is an evolutionary mechanism designed to root out abuse. Men make abstract decisions through rational reasoning and physical drives, such as the sexual urge.
The problem is that they aren't evolved for that. They are evolved to find a caveman that can fend off predators and hunt for them.
My position is a woman’s intuition about abuse is the most effective factor we know of in predicting violent abuse. I have extrapolated this fact to inform my opinion on a woman’s “ick.”
The childish way they put it is a good indicator that it is a monkey brain, low IQ function that doesn't work in the modern world. This was even lampooned in a comedy video about a made up female school. A student presses "no" to a picture of a nerd, and the teacher shakes her head: "You are wrong, this is programmer, he also makes lots of money."
Au contraire, rape, slavery, and arranged marriages are viable methods of reproduction. Evolution doesn’t care. A shame all three have fallen out of favor recently. Quite the crisis in reproductivity.
Well, not with Islam and Jeet. Evolution applies to every other country too, and the brown horse apples may win this genetic race. Nature cares not about methods, only end results, as it is mindless and without ethics.
incels are incels because they do not let out threat signals, not because they do and women can pick up on it
their problem, besides lack of opportunity and not being physical specimens to write home about, is how little of a threat they are and how little drama they'd invite to woman's life as their prospective other
This is it, the problem is the lack of danger signals. Incels are basically bearded women. Women see them as invisible because they are physically not imposing, nor are a credible rival, though terfs may disagree as trannyism becomes ever more prevalent. This triggers the instincts and instantly disqualifies the incel, because incel vs cave bear would end badly, for the incel.

In past ages with better upbringing and social system women had been trained to associate this with increased income and make a conscious choice to marry the more intelligent but physically not that imposing specimen, with the help of societal pressure. This is nowdays what we would call Beta Bux, but without the Chad Cock Carousel and the Pill.

Our society is artificial, it is not a creation of evolution nor nature. Nature is street shitting and Haiti cannibalism.
This probably sounds horribly misogynistic and hateful. But, I am another women who has completely befuddled by this attitude for years and years because I actually DO want to stop rape. After all this time, and running into above situation over and over, I can't come to any other conclusion but that they don't really want to stop it, or are perhaps unable. It's not even suggesting politically motivated things like stop refugees that causes a reaction like above, it's suggesting ANYTHING. If you don't just repeat "teach men not to rape", you're persona non grata. That's literally the only suggestion that most women will accept. I'm not out there telling women to wear different clothes or anything like that. It's literally just stuff like "hey maybe we should punish rapists harder?" "NO THAT WON'T WORK" "why?" "IT JUST DOESN'T". Or "if that guy is raping people maybe you should report him or warn people or something?" "NO, HOW DARE YOU"
Well most rapists aren't mentally well balanced or they are stupid niggers, so harder punishments may not deter them. A skizo or a nignog won't care as he can't really think ahead of time.

But the crux of the issue is the above mentioned evolutionary mechanism. Most rapists are thugs, niggers, immigrants, who are just exactly the dangerous bad boy that makes the monkey brain tingle. Women like aggressive, angry and muscle bound men. But these men also do the rape, which puts them into a catch 22.

If it was skinny armed, fat bellied star wars nerds doing the rapes, they would yell for their heads to be mounted on pikes.

This is a very simple biological issue. Societies do, or did in the past factor this in with tradition and patriarchy, but the current modernity is just not equipped to deal with this problem, which is spawned by caveman era instincts that got reinforced for possibly a million years and back to pre-human times.

I love sperging about nature stuff. Melty is totally, logically right in her assessment, but the problem is that this issue isn't based on logic or reason, but on animal instincts. Monkey see, monkey do.
Social justice also, ironically, doesn't want women to take agency in this. Don't dress reavelingly in the bad part of town, don't hang out with miscreants, draw attention* to you if you feel you are in danger are all old time western woman tricks to "stealth" against rape. No matter if they work or not, these are automatically discarded as they require effort on the victim's part. Getting out of an area when nignog thugs show up is no longer common sense, but heckin' racismerino bigotism. This is learned helplessness.

*This one requires a high trust society to work, where you can rely on strangers to call the police at least. May not work in San Niggisco's Nignog central. This method was showcased in a Japanese case recently, when a stalker groped a cosplayer. She screamed and the other attending men intervened on her behalf.

If we take history into account, Sharia makes much more sense if we factor in rowing bandits. The dumpstar bag clothes are mimicry to not stand out. The male relative is a protector against marauders. It is a solution that was made for a problem that became much lesser than it used to be.
 
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You can talk about anything here man, to be honest despite the title except for a few die hards on the more incely side none of us really hate women, we might bitch a little bit but we also talk about history, music, videogames.
100% true for me, with the caveat that I do actually despise feminism and would crush it together with all other forms of progressive shitlibbery. That doesn't really mean I wanna enslave anyone, but the current situation where weakness is encouraged and protected by the state(s) is not sustainable IMO.
 
Tyrone isn't the cream of the crop. Evolution isn't a sapient divinity, it is a simple bio-chemical process
This sounds like genetic dead end cope to me. It’s like a velociraptor going “um actually we’re objectively the fiercest predators” to a bear.
Something very blackpilling for me to realize is that most women don't want to stop rape. After many, many discussions both online and irl, this is the inevitable conclusion I've reached.
I think rape gives women the ick. Currently, rape is second only to murder in terms of crime severity. If it were a minor inconvenience to some and actively enjoyed by others, it’d be a misdemeanor at best.

I think the idea that women enjoy being raped is a rapist’s cope. Kinda how pedophiles cope that children are asking for it.
Pretty much any time you suggest any reasonable measure to deter rape, it gets shot down, sometimes emotionally. Suggesting women do something like report men that are rapists so other women don't get raped is basically asking to get piled on angrily.
I have never met a single natal woman who doesn’t support the current legal mitigations we have against rape. Men who are rapists not only go to jail, they’re put on a sex offender registry so other women can be aware of who they are and stay away from them.
 
This sounds like genetic dead end cope to me. It’s like a velociraptor going “um actually we’re objectively the fiercest predators” to a bear.

I think rape gives women the ick. Currently, rape is second only to murder in terms of crime severity. If it were a minor inconvenience to some and actively enjoyed by others, it’d be a misdemeanor at best.

I think the idea that women enjoy being raped is a rapist’s cope. Kinda how pedophiles cope that children are asking for it.

I have never met a single natal woman who doesn’t support the current legal mitigations we have against rape. Men who are rapists not only go to jail, they’re put on a sex offender registry so other women can be aware of who they are and stay away from them.
@melty is a women, you've dismissed her points as though she's a man arguing in favor of rape, which isn't what she said at all I've told you this before but if you intend to debate people you really really need to read instead of just skimming shit and vomiting out a response.
 
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Aside from the redpilled, conservative "tie them to a tree and let the gators get 'em", this is 100% how most women are.

This probably sounds horribly misogynistic and hateful. But, I am another women who has completely befuddled by this attitude for years and years because I actually DO want to stop rape. After all this time, and running into above situation over and over, I can't come to any other conclusion but that they don't really want to stop it, or are perhaps unable. It's not even suggesting politically motivated things like stop refugees that causes a reaction like above, it's suggesting ANYTHING. If you don't just repeat "teach men not to rape", you're persona non grata. That's literally the only suggestion that most women will accept. I'm not out there telling women to wear different clothes or anything like that. It's literally just stuff like "hey maybe we should punish rapists harder?" "NO THAT WON'T WORK" "why?" "IT JUST DOESN'T". Or "if that guy is raping people maybe you should report him or warn people or something?" "NO, HOW DARE YOU"

I think it's about responsibility. If you have to commit to a solution, you have to accept the consequences. It's something many modern women are growing increasingly allergic to and maybe their pathological love for abortion exists for the same reason.
 
@melty is a women, you've dismissed her points as though she's a man arguing in favor of rape, which isn't what she said at all I said this before but if you intend to debate people you really really need to read instead of just skimming shit and vomiting out a response.
My points still stand as they are objectively verifiable facts and have no bearing on the gender of the user I’m responding to. She clearly doesn’t support rape herself. Maybe she just lives in an insane asylum and doesn’t know any women who support mitigations against rape. She should try posting in the man hate thread - they will elucidate her.

In fact, this could be settled scientifically. @Lidl Drip can easily add a poll to the man hate thread to see what punishment they favor for rapists. @Justa Grata Honoria can post the results here because she has access to both threads. If I had to guess, I’d say “all of the above” will win out to an extensive list of war crimes. I mean, she probably doesn’t even need to do a poll because the results are so fucking obvious.
 
My points still stand as they are objectively verifiable facts and have no bearing on the gender of the user I’m responding to. She clearly doesn’t support rape herself. Maybe she just lives in an insane asylum and doesn’t know any women who support mitigations against rape. She should try posting in the man hate thread - they will elucidate her.

In fact, this could be settled scientifically. @Lidl Drip can easily add a poll to the man hate thread to see what punishment they favor for rapists. @Justa Grata Honoria can post the results here because she has access to both threads. If I had to guess, I’d say “all of the above” will win out to an extensive list of war crimes. I mean, she probably doesn’t even need to do a poll because the results are so fucking obvious.
You keep saying "all my points are objectively true facts."

Verified by who exactly? Who is validating your opinions as objective fact?

Also you are tagging users for reinforcements that openly despise you because of your gender. You unironically have Stockholm syndrome.
 
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You keep saying "all my points are objectively true facts."

Verified by who exactly? Who is validating your opinions as objective fact?
It is an objectively verifiable fact that rape, along with murder and kidnapping, are class I felonies. You quite literally do not need to take my word for it. It is also an objective fact that rapists go on a sex offender registry.

Maybe if we ask @Lidl Drip very very nicely maybe she’ll add a poll to the man hate thread so you don’t even need to take my word for how the majority of women feel about rape on Kiwi Farms.
 
I think it's about responsibility. If you have to commit to a solution, you have to accept the consequences. It's something many modern women are growing increasingly allergic to and maybe their pathological love for abortion exists for the same reason.
Which is precisely why in the past women didnt have rights, they are largely incapable of being responsible in the same manner that men are. Hence the existence of chivalry and other similar attitudes/cultural norms.
 
It is an objectively verifiable fact that rape, along with murder and kidnapping, are class I felonies. You quite literally do not need to take my word for it.
No one ever said or argued otherwise, I genuinely do not understand how your mind works.

Are you reading the same posts as everyone else?

Also please stop tagging radfem Satan into this thread, we do not want her here shitting all over the floor.
 
I think rape gives women the ick. Currently, rape is second only to murder in terms of crime severity. If it were a minor inconvenience to some and actively enjoyed by others, it’d be a misdemeanor at best.

I think the idea that women enjoy being raped is a rapist’s cope. Kinda how pedophiles cope that children are asking for it.
Why would that be the case? If rape classification was lowered in severity that would just give women less power. Women can choose not to pursue rape charges if they want.

I agree with Melty and have thought it myself a few times. A lot of these women espouse views and engage in behaviors that make you really wonder if they care about rape, or if it's just a convenient tool to leverage when it fits into some personal or sociopolitical agenda.

Or perhaps it's more a case where they're so coddled that the idea of actually taking personal steps to prevent something they don't like from happening is alien to them. Why should they have to take or vote for protective measures? That's unfair, it's the world's job to do everything for them.

I mean if you really think about it you're basically doing women a favor by raping them. They might like it, plus it means lifelong access into the cool girl's club and a trump card to pull out whenever they want people to take them seriously.

In fact, this could be settled scientifically. @Lidl Drip can easily add a poll to the man hate thread to see what punishment they favor for rapists. @Justa Grata Honoria can post the results here because she has access to both threads. If I had to guess, I’d say “all of the above” will win out to an extensive list of war crimes. I mean, she probably doesn’t even need to do a poll because the results are so fucking obvious.
Even better you could stop trying to goad people into getting involved in each others' threads again, spaz. You're barely in here and you're already tagging people trying to create problems.

Nobody gives a fuck what they think, even if it was pertinent, which it isn't, because even if this was a serious debate nobody suggested women would admit it if asked. Plus we're on KF where women will tend to be more racist and transphobic than average, which is already two steps towards preventing rape.
 
Extremely controversial post incoming but I believe the reason for this is because many women form parasocial relationships with their rapists.
Also controversial to say, but a lot of the guys those women are talking about are just an ex boyfriend they were fine with at the time but later decided was abusive, so that may account for some of the familiarity. I didn't used to believe this shit, but yeah, I have seen it.

I didn't even touch on the "restorative justice" crap that's mostly pushed by feminist women for rape victims. It's too traumatizing to go to police but sitting in a drum circle and chatting with a rapist is very woke and healing. OK.
What they want is for men to wave a magic wand and make all crime that would target women disappear, but without doing anything mean.
Honestly makes a lot of sense.
I have never met a single natal woman who doesn’t support the current legal mitigations we have against rape. Men who are rapists not only go to jail, they’re put on a sex offender registry so other women can be aware of who they are and stay away from them.
It is an objectively verifiable fact that rape, along with murder and kidnapping, are class I felonies. You quite literally do not need to take my word for it. It is also an objective fact that rapists go on a sex offender registry.

Maybe if we ask @Lidl Drip very very nicely maybe she’ll add a poll to the man hate thread so you don’t even need to take my word for how the majority of women feel about rape on Kiwi Farms.
Since kiwi farms skews conservative, you may get different results. I have seen many women support prison abolishment and abolishing the sex offender registries. Here is a woman who is apparently writing a whole book about abolishing the sex offender registry. Something like 75% of women in the US support woke feminism. They may have some disagreement on minor tenants here and there, but usually they do just generally go along with whatever the current woke feminist take is, and that currently favors light sentencing and fewer policing.

Also, the current legal mitigations don't seem to do a lot of good as there are many violent rapists and pedophiles operating in our society with abandon right now. Do the women who support the current measures support any harsher penalties to improve the situation? And do they really support it with their voting habits, their actions? I have seen far more women campaigning for abolishing police then I have ever seen them discuss MORE punishment for rapists. Usually, asking for harsher penalties is met with a list of reasons why it won't work. You can see this in the rare cases it's actually implemented - recently Louisiana passed a measure for chemical castration for rapists. This was met by a resounding REEEEE and cries about how it won't work. When women actually do campaign against rape, it's usually something stupid, like with Mattress Girl or the slut walks or Trump saying grab them by the pussy. In which case they weren't even mad about the rapists themselves, but mad about people not taking them seriously and hurting their feelings. I've never seen these women protest because some horrible rapist got let out early and raped more people, a thing that happens regularly. It's usually conservative men I see concerned about the actual rapists. So you might ask a woman if she supports punishing rapists, and she will say "yeah, of course", but then she never votes for it and chooses to spend her time protesting against it and anything that might improve the situation. I've personally heard some women say in one situation they hate rapists and want them dead but in a different situation they are all ACAB and abolish prisons. It doesn't make sense and their actions and votes definitely lean more toward ACAB so I can only conclude that's what they care about most and the other thing is a lower priority.
 
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A FOID?? On MY internet??

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My points still stand

No, because your points are grounded in not reading and understanding what you're responding to. LEARN TO READ.


Also, the current legal mitigations don't seem to do a lot of good as there are many violent rapists and pedophiles operating in our society with abandon right now.

Places that put thieves in jail still have thefts. Going on this logic, California functionally legalized theft under $900, thinking it wouldn't change anything. Turns out, while banning something sociopathic doesn't make it disappear, legalizing it makes it spiral out of control and completely destroy society.

Imagine if we legalized rape. Imagine how fucking insane everything would become.
 
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I agree with Melty and have thought it myself a few times. A lot of these women espouse views and engage in behaviors that make you really wonder if they care about rape, or if it's just a convenient tool to leverage when it fits into some personal or sociopolitical agenda.
Both. Women love to use sexual assault in general as a way to shit on men and would love for you to believe that 9 out of 10 women have been raped or sexually assaulted and that half of men would rape women if they could get away with it. I've been sexually assaulted by women before and you don't see me bringing it up every time I criticize women because nobody (not even I) cares.
which isn't what she said at all I've told you this before but if you intend to debate people you really really need to read instead of just skimming shit and vomiting out a response.
Male feminists are known to be predators and unironically misogynistic. They sniff that out better than they do wifebeaters that is for sure.

Recently I saw a hoe_math post that I wanted to share, and if anyone wants some laughs they could see the post's retweets as they are full of women missing his point and proving him right. I don't know if everyone here agrees with it, personally, I believe it describes the liberal feminist women I've seen:
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A lot of these women espouse views and engage in behaviors that make you really wonder if they care about rape, or if it's just a convenient tool to leverage when it fits into some personal or sociopolitical agenda.
It's their own little Holocaust. Remember da six gorillion raped wahmen, goyi- I mean scrotes!
People aren't even asking themselves why there is such a disparity between rape rates among different cultures because it would lead to them trying to stop immigration to "save women". Since the women in question vehemently oppose closed borders, it's safe to say that they understand the grift on some level and are actively participating in it. That's also why many women are permaraped on social media, they can't really live out their rape fantasies in their gated communities IRL.
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God how fucking disgusting.

Can we make women feminine again, jesus christ

You can't be a hot girl, and act like a man. No real man wants a girl who likes football and cheap beer. Gross.
Al Bundy disagrees vehemently.
Or perhaps it's more a case where they're so coddled that the idea of actually taking personal steps to prevent something they don't like from happening is alien to them. Why should they have to take or vote for protective measures? That's unfair, it's the world's job to do everything for them.
I am sure this is an important factor in not only this, but disney adults and other current year messes.
Imagine if we legalized rape. Imagine how fucking insane everything would become.
Saaaaar! Indian immigration would eyplode by 2020% increase.
 
I love how the retards solution was to run a poll as if women don't lie all the time to appear more virtuous, but more than that he wanted to run a poll on kiwifarms of all places, oh yeah the fatties in beauty parlor are representative of the general population, they're totally normal people. He loves to present himself as being capable of rational though but can't help fucking up every step he takes.
 
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