Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[The Lawgiver]

Sounds like you're a kid living at home so yeah, that makes sense. Just bear in mind once you are grown up and out, you'll have to be more mindful of things like this, especially if you have dependents to support.

Really wish you actually read my posts before replying! Are you just making shit up now and hoping nobody actually reads my ramblings?

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

I've been avoiding this website for my mental health, really avoiding most websites, but fuck trannies keep popping up no matter how much I try to mind my own buisness.

I've been the same way for the more culture wars-side of the site lately like troonacy, and thus sticking to the more lighthearted Off-Topic sub-forums, but lately troons have really seemed to get particularly loud and screechy across the internet again lately and it's annoying. I suspect either they feel they have a sudden comeback from JK Rowling Olympic athlete thing, or they feel the slow crunch of reality and their true unpopularity setting in, despite fleeting high-profile moments like the former.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I've been avoiding this website for my mental health, really avoiding most websites, but fuck trannies keep popping up no matter how much I try to mind my own buisness.

Honestly this is so true. Sometimes I feel like I’m overdoing it with the troon hate and try to forget about it. I turn on a streamer I like. Oh look, chat is full of “princess alice” with a troon flag icon talking about his HRT moobs. And then it happens again later that week in a different stream.

And of course being obnoxious online is the least of their crimes. Just very noticeable.

One positive is friend is telling me a lot of his nerd friends who don’t care about politics are starting to hate “the HRT crowd” because of the way they act online.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Honestly this is so true. Sometimes I feel like I’m overdoing it with the troon hate and try to forget about it.

Like journalists, you can't hate trannies enough.

They promote a lifestyle of confusing young children, dependence on pharmaceuticals, and using the law (or at least administration) as part of their extended temper tantrums when you don't play along with whatever thing they've convinced themselves about reality that can't be objectively be proven, but since they have a "sincerely held" belief (an excuse that wasn't accepted for people with objections to COVID vaccinations, but I digress...) they get to get away with being absolute narcissistic monsters that need to be sentenced to going to the prison of their birth sex and trying to convince everyone to use their pronouns.

 

[deermeat]

Honestly this is so true. Sometimes I feel like I’m overdoing it with the troon hate and try to forget about it. I turn on a streamer I like. Oh look, chat is full of “princess alice” with a troon flag icon talking about his HRT moobs. And then it happens again later that week in a different stream.

And of course being obnoxious online is the least of their crimes. Just very noticeable.

One positive is friend is telling me a lot of his nerd friends who don’t care about politics are starting to hate “the HRT crowd” because of the way they act online.

Yeah they're everywhere like roaches. I'm trying to be more social yet they have infested all the places that have my interests, I even tried going on edgier servers and the incels there (lol) are simping over troons/femboys.
It's like man, these people, all of them, are quite literally going to decay within the next decade. All these people are within their 20s/30s and barely been a troon, let alone an regular porn/internet addict, for less than a decade while already facing loads of health issues, let alone mental health issues. Yet their suffering can't come soon enough! I wanna fast forward. These people truly think that all of this is a game and that they can fuck around when young to this extent. Nah man. I am trying to be a responsible adult yet I am living in a world where irresponsibility is being rewarded more than being a functional human being. So it all feels pointless atm, man. It's very demoralizing. I am gatekept from things I enjoy for being a person with common sense.
It reminds me of that jordan Peterson example where if one lazy disrepsectful worker is allowed on the team, forcing the rest to pick up his slack, it will influence the rest of the team into becoming lazy and disrepectful because why bother if they all get paid the same? It went something like that.

Even when I go outside, there is a weird amount of troons where I live. My area has than 10k people in it. The general county itself has less than 60k. Wanna go to a group regarding nerdy interests? Troons and poons. Not a city btw.

 

[Not A Bunny]

It's like man, these people, all of them, are quite literally going to decay within the next decade. All these people are within their 20s/30s and barely been a troon, let alone an regular porn/internet addict, for less than a decade while already facing loads of health issues, let alone mental health issues.

It is quite frankly disturbing how we've given over science to administration. And by that I mean, all you have to do is get the local authorities to rule that someone's feeling is more important than actual human psychology (transgenderism is the sign of a very unhealthy and susceptible brain; how else could anyone possibly explain that many people would chemically alter otherwise healthy bodies simply because you're convinced your brain said so? Time was, those people were told to seek help away from the rest of us).

But hey, if Big Daddy HR/Government says you need to respect the pronouns, that's the end of it, Jack.

Even when I go outside, there is a weird amount of troons where I live. My area has than 10k people in it. The general county itself has less than 60k. Wanna go to a group regarding nerdy interests? Troons and poons. Not a city btw.

I feel like I've grown up a lot in the past five years. That's not to say that I wasn't an adult before. I considered myself a reasonably good citizen. I pay my taxes and my bills on time. I hold doors for people regardless of who they are. I give to charity and I don't advertise about it. I don't do drugs or even watch porn. All things I've always done as an adult.

That said, it used to be somewhat "okay" for me to be interested in all of those nerdy things because that's what I grew up with. Now, all the nerdy things I used to like are occupied by the midwits and crybabies that basically alternate between "ours, you can't have it now" and "why aren't you praising this enlightened and brilliant work that we've made for you? Have you truly no empathy?"

And I feel like I've disengaged because I've acknowledged that the same mentality that occupies the things I used to enjoy is that of the kind of drama that teenagers bring to the table. This weird play-acting at being adults that teenagers do, mostly to get back at Daddy for being Patriarchal (because that's really what pop culture is nowadays - it's one long, gangly, sickly middle finger to dear old Dad and his crusty old institutions), because the new generation has somehow figured out that they are more smart, knowledgeable and enlightened than previous generations, and they, by knife and by drug if necessary, will do it better than Daddy ever did.

Not to get too off-topic, but the same thinking applies to all Social Justice weasels. The feminists think that without modern conveniences, women were somehow "forced" to stay in the home rearing and raising children, as opposed to adapting to a social structure that works within the world they lived - one that we barely left 100 or so years ago, and that women somehow had limitless potential that was squashed and we'd have been so much more advanced if only women weren't forced to, I don't know, have seven or eight kids because all of them were certain to live, right?

It's that same infantile thinking here: we know better than previous generations. We've solved the problems, and don't you dare tell us that historically, we've been proven wrong, we were just oppressed and we are never going back (to times they aren't familiar with but are so adamant that they would have been the exact same person if they were transplanted back in time).

Point being, they've occupied the space of "the other", things people like me used to occupy, and filled it with the kind of childish nonsense that old-school nerds would have never gotten away with, and we grew out of and did productive things with our lives, because for fuck's sake, even back then we knew it was all just fantasy fiction, not shit to hang our identities off of.

 

[Aunt Carol]

they've occupied the space of "the other", things people like me used to occupy, and filled it with the kind of childish nonsense that old-school nerds would have never gotten away with, and we grew out of and did productive things with our lives, because for fuck's sake, even back then we knew it was all just fantasy fiction, not shit to hang our identities off of.

"Nerd" is almost like a cargo cult subculture now.

In the day you'd have a guy who was super into Battlestar Galactica, but also working in computers and soldering together some new innovative piece of tech in his garage. Even a lifestyle Klingon was likely to be a dentist 9-5. Now the "nerds" are just people into a particular flavor of media, and that's all; it's not a sign of anything special beneath the surface.

 

[Not A Bunny]

"Nerd" is almost like a cargo cult subculture now.

In the day you'd have a guy who was super into Battlestar Galactica, but also working in computers and soldering together some new innovative piece of tech in his garage. Even a lifestyle Klingon was likely to be a dentist 9-5. Now the "nerds" are just people into a particular flavor of media, and that's all; it's not a sign of anything special beneath the surface.

Absolutely. Once nerd culture became a bankable commodity that you could buy into with enough t-shirts, Funko Pops and fidget spinners, there was no such thing as nerd culture anymore.

 

[missnaptime]

@notabunny - in ref to your post

And god forbid an actual woman wants to engage in nerd activities - nearly all are infested by troons. I play MTG and some tabletop card games. I can't tell you how awkward it is having to navigate social events trying to avoid these freaks. If you politely decline conversation with them, or otherwise just try to go about your business they act like martyrs for their cause.

They're absolutely everywhere. In the hobbies I enjoy, infiltrating the sports that I love (roller derby, because hey, who doesn't want a 6'2 man cosplaying as a woman barging shit into women trying to play a female only sport on roller skates?), the places I choose to go. A good friend of mine got perved on by one of these fucks at a gym in a locker room. I've been touched up by a fat Troon in a swimming pool trying to just have some fun in the non lengths area with a few friends of mine. This isn't just a right wing thing anymore either; I have friends across the political gamut and they're making EVERYONE uncomfortable. The quiet part is being said out loud, and women in my social circles are more wary than ever; and this is coming from some soft left/generally liberal people here that I'm good friends with.

I've had to change the time I exercise to avoid them in the locker room - because not a single gym in my city has a 'women only' rule regarding it, and the showers are communal, which makes it even worse. They'll just swan in, cock, balls, all out, and then they'll get offended and aggressive when you look visibly uncomfortable when they try and make conversation with you in the showers with their pathetic attempt at womanhood.

I don't feel comfortable going and enjoying the things I enjoy fully anymore. I'm sick of having to devalue myself and my own safety, and my own happiness to fit the respectability and normalcy of predatory men who cosplay like me and pretend that injecting themselves with oestrogen makes them a woman. It's hard enough being a woman in the current climate and advocating for yourself, let alone if you're anti troon. I'm just so sick of it.

Sorry for the long retarded spergy rant but I'm just really tired of having to give them false niceties to get them to leave me alone when I just want them to fuck off.

 

[Not A Bunny]

And god forbid an actual woman wants to engage in nerd activities - nearly all are infested by troons. I play MTG and some tabletop card games. I can't tell you how awkward it is having to navigate social events trying to avoid these freaks. If you politely decline conversation with them, or otherwise just try to go about your business they act like martyrs for their cause.

I was a "girl nerd" back in the day. Other girls were quick to strip you of your "girl" status (literally, you were dehumanized by those awful little cunts) if you stepped a toe in the waters of being a nerd.

Make no mistake: transgenders in female spaces is solely the fault of women. They're the social gatekeepers. And I will contend forever that women figured that transes were the new "gay besties". Their purse puppy they could champion and feel like they "did" something useful by being at the forefront of progressive thought. There was one problem: they thought they could control that particular monster.

The transes learned and adapted and perfected the game that women have been playing forever: their feelings are paramount, and no logic, no reason, no amount of objective reality can penetrate that particular bubble, so either join the collective willingly, or be swallowed by it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: like journalists, you can't hate transes enough.

 

[deermeat]

Absolutely. Once nerd culture became a bankable commodity that you could buy into with enough t-shirts, Funko Pops and fidget spinners, there was no such thing as nerd culture anymore.

For real. If these people liked stuff like science, they wouldn't be full of troons and poons. I doubt most even like computer science non professionally and as far as I am aware, progressive ideology as a whole ruined many franchises relating to comics and video games. Even tabletop games given the whole anti goblin nonsense. Ironically, it became a "no fun allowed" thing. How is it fun to try and step around a bunch of adult children in fear they'll through a fit? Don't get me started on pooners in particular as people think they aren't as bad. To have them have fake mental breakkdowns pretending to be triggered and feeling "unsafe" for someone with a different opinion is offensive. These are people with well-off backgrounds who try to get people like me, someone who actually gone through things, ostracized. I never seen someone born into poverty act the way these people do, partly because you have to have thick skin when growing up.

the new "gay besties".

Oh my god don't get me started on this. I already despise that attitude women have. I have a gay coworker whos pretty feminine and the women baby him like crazy. The way these women see gay men is not as an equal and only gay men who lack self esteem would ever wanna be apart of that because it's dehumanizing. At least Id hope so, Id hope most picked up on it.

I was a "girl nerd" back in the day. Other girls were quick to strip you of your "girl" status (literally, you were dehumanized by those awful little cunts) if you stepped a toe in the waters of being a nerd.

This is what is so infuriating about these women. This is a straight woman thing. I'm not saying you are gay, but it's a straight woman thing for them to act like that. So to have them now pretend to be apart of the LG spaces while only exclusiovely supporting troons, who are also straight, is sickenining. They took over everything. They are like hipsters on steriods.

Most troons are not HSTS, and even the troons that are HSTS are the worst type of gay steorotype. Same with pooners that are HSTS. I used to give HSTS pooners slack but nah, a lot of them have the exact same problem as the gay ones. They tend to hate women and think they can trick straight women into being with them if they pass enough. At best they are a flavor of butch but still, it's like their toxicity is amplified.

It's insane these people sare seen as the good guys or worthy of more respect compared to all the LGs who simply wanna just live in peace. Homophobia never changes. I don't know why they think we are so threatening compared to them. I'll give pooners credit, even other women still don't like them. I have no idea why women in particular are like this. A lesbian? GROSS, creepy! Ew! A lesbian who tries to pretend to be a man? EWW, gross. Still creepy! A man who tries to be a woman in the most red-flag way possible? Awww, so cute. Slay queen!

 

[Not A Bunny]

If these people liked stuff like science, they wouldn't be full of troons and poons.

They "like" science. In fact, they "fucking love" it.
They don't understand it. They would lift a finger to flip a page in a textbook if it meant saving their sorry existences.
They just believe science is cool, and therefore, they should make every association they can with science, because like with pop culture, it's all reflected glory.

Honestly, knowing as many engineers as I do, I can't imagine any one of them being trans. None are particularly afflicted with autism, as I can tell (I know one who clearly is, and the behavioral differences are stark), in fact, they're all genuinely nice and helpful and really like what they do. Thing is, that's what keeps them from gazing at their navels long enough to wonder if they're the right gender.

You talk to them for five minutes about Docker, about antennas, about speccing out the newest toys they want to buy or build, about whatever programming they're doing in their spare time for giggles, you'll find out that they don't have the headspace to ponder gender. They just have material shit to do, and if you want to get all gender-role about it, there's a hyper-competitiveness over who can get the most nerdy with it that is almost exclusively male.

I've seen swaths of them drop what they were doing to discuss password hashing. In casual conversation. It wasn't even work-related.

What's neat to observe is that deep down, these guys know they have some sort of purpose. They don't have to fill that space in them with anything else. That's why they're not trans.

 

[deermeat]

it's all reflected glory.

Yepp. They like the idea of liking science more than science itself. Just like they like the idea of being into punk culture more than punk itself. Same with philosophy. It's why these people like NASA so much, wearing NASA shirts and focusing on planets or something that may seem science-y from the distance but really is empty. It's all about imagery, surface level knowledge at best. The most they can go into detail is in regards to fictional media and even they can't do that as they then start putting all these labels onto each characters, taking away the nuance that anyone who truly likes that media would be able to appreciate.

It's like magical thinking. Everything is make-believe play pretend. What baffles me is that they successfully took over things though. I blame the government and for once it is justified. Without corporate and governmental interference, these people would be excluded instead of it being the other way around. TTD can't come soon enough.

 

[revisionist]

I don't mean to break into you guys conversation, it's just a thought I had for a while.

Do you think Marx would hate on trannies? I think so. He'd look at the whole gender bs as a bourgeise passtime.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Do you think Marx would hate on trannies? I think so. He'd look at the whole gender bs as a bourgeise passtime.

Probably. It doesn't contribute to the state in any way.

Maybe I misread the whole Marx thing. I'm kind of bored today.

 

[Wuornos]

I was a "girl nerd" back in the day. Other girls were quick to strip you of your "girl" status (literally, you were dehumanized by those awful little cunts) if you stepped a toe in the waters of being a nerd.

Make no mistake: transgenders in female spaces is solely the fault of women. They're the social gatekeepers. And I will contend forever that women figured that transes were the new "gay besties". Their purse puppy they could champion and feel like they "did" something useful by being at the forefront of progressive thought. There was one problem: they thought they could control that particular monster.

The transes learned and adapted and perfected the game that women have been playing forever: their feelings are paramount, and no logic, no reason, no amount of objective reality can penetrate that particular bubble, so either join the collective willingly, or be swallowed by it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: like journalists, you can't hate transes enough.

Men pretending to be female are the fault of women? Bullshit. I don't believe for one second you're female. You type like a typical misogynist that knows fuck all about the history of the trans cult. Women have been fighting the trans cult for decades. "Terf," coined in the seventies by a paedophile tranny, is only hurled at women. There is no male equivalent of "terf" because it wasn't men fighting the trannies. It was overtly women.

White Leftist males have been pushing trans rights because they're using it as a Trojan horse to decriminalise sex with minors and they're pushing for womanhood to be redefined so paedophiles LARPing as female can bypass actual women and mothers safeguarding children.

How can you possibly claim to be "female" and not know that, Aunt Lydia?

 

[Not A Bunny]

How can you possibly claim to be "female" and not know that, Aunt Lydia?

The fact that I have different life experiences and have witnessed different things than a lot of people. But you do you, sweetness.

That said, men pretending to be women being the fault of women? Just who do you think is the needle-pusher on social issues. Sure as fuck ain't men. Everything about pushing social issues is, if not outright female, feminized. Everything you ever hear based on feelings? That's fucking female.

Save your fucking hysteria for the real enemy.

 

[Susanna]

Everything you ever hear based on feelings? That's fucking female.

Men are way more emotional than women. How many women punch holes in the walls when they're told to wash the dishes, or break their computers when they lose a game of Counter Strike? Four fifths of violent crime (ie, emotionally motivated crime, as opposed to financially or politically motivated crime) is perpetrated by men. If you ever want to see someone go fucking hysterical, wound a man's ego.

 

[Major]

One thing I always thought was interest was that troons are despised by women for perfectly understandable reasons such as them attacking the very concept of real womens' existences. But there is no such hate for pooners from men. Why is this? The lack of obvious male aggression from them? The lack of a masculinist movement?

 

[The Lawgiver]

One thing I always thought was interest was that troons are despised by women for perfectly understandable reasons such as them attacking the very concept of real womens' existences. But there is no such hate for pooners from men. Why is this? The lack of obvious male aggression from them? The lack of a masculinist movement?

Depends on the pooner. Some are chill-ish people weirdly aside from the pooner-y aspects. The ones that constantly winge about how "cold" and "unfeeling" biological men are, though? Yeah no everyone hates those fuckers. It's just MTF/anti male propaganda shit with extra steps.