Silent Hill

[Broseph]

I hate how twitter retards, and retards in general can not possibly comprehend that remaking Silent Hill 2 is a fruitless endeavor. This is one of those Lighting-in-a-Bottle type games that's impossible to replicate. Silent Hill 2s, slightly off voice acting, 720p crunchy visuals with noise, early CG, Mary's Letter, shitty combat and incredibly clever symbolism is what makes the game so beautiful, and gave context to its overall atmosphere and storytelling. The fact that they went for over the shoulder rather then fixed camera is already a clear indication they have no idea what they doing. Silent Hill is subtle; Pooper Team (and AAA for that matter) have no idea how to be subtle.

I would sperg more but I'm tired, and I feel like I'm going insane because of the amount of people saying "this is going to be good". It's not, they already fucked up by remaking it in the first place.

Spoiler: How can anyone possibly say "yes, the one on the left is CLEARLY better!!11!!"

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What made the scene so good in the OG is that Mary simultaneously looks friendly and creepy but you can't quite put your finger on it, there's just something off about her, especially since this happened right after you saw her "die". The remake however forgoes any sense of ambiguity and has her sitting in her chair in a relaxed posture that looks completely unnatural for the wrong reasons with the shadow in her eyes gone. This comparison perfectly symbolizes how Bloober Team completely missed the fucking point of the OG and why this game is going to be a giant POS that will fail to sell and put the franchise on another indefinite hiatus for a decade.

Spoiler: bonus sperging about P.T.

People really need to get the fuck over P.T. already. It's dead and it's not coming back. I'm so tired and fed up with seeing autistic reddit faggots who to this day still insist that Kojima is somehow still involved with P.T./Silent Hills anytime he tweets anything about the game and they think it's part of some very elaborate viral marketing ruse and that he's still going to revive a game that got canceled a fucking decade ago by a company he no longer works at.

 

[Miller]

Erhm, relax chuds. It's not so bad if you accept the remake wont be as good.

I just noticed that her skirt doesn't touch her leg.

 

[Fart Muncher]

Acting like that justifies the switch to generic the Resident Evil-esque camera is a huge leap.

Exactly this, the camera was so high up when it wasn't fixed that it gave the impression that something was watching. Making James take up 1/3 of the screen, and it being right over his shoulder fucks it up. The fixed camera was the only good fucking thing about The Medium too, which is so baffling that they didn't use it again in this.

What made the scene so good in the OG is that Mary simultaneously looks friendly and creepy but you can't quite put your finger on it, there's just something off about her, especially since this happened right after you saw her "die". The remake however forgoes any sense of ambiguity and has her sitting in her chair in a relaxed posture that looks completely unnatural for the wrong reasons with the shadow in her eyes gone.

You hit the nail right on the head. Holy fuck it feels good that people understand my frustrations with this.

 

[Nameless One]

I'm looking forward to the laying of this turd - Even though all the horrible ghosting artifacts around James' character model which are constantly emphasized by the chosen camera perspective will probably give me a migraine.

notice the God awful shimmering in reflections too. That's TAA artifacting iirc. It would be very funny if you couldn't turn it off on pc.

 

[Blonrad Blurze]

I just noticed that her skirt doesn't touch her leg.

If you keep noticing things I'll have to break your thumbs.

 

[Suicide]

I hate how twitter retards, and retards in general can not possibly comprehend that remaking Silent Hill 2 is a fruitless endeavor. This is one of those Lighting-in-a-Bottle type games that's impossible to replicate.

The absolute worst part of the Silent Hill 2 remake isn't even the fact that the game is a massive piece of shit, but that we will be seeing xitter spergs soying hard over it for years to come. Everything about the remake is made 10x worse because you have people who believe having ultra 4k realistic graphics is better than having an actual aesthetic/style/vision. They have watered down absolutely everything good about the game in the name of making it look realistic...

+ One of the most annoying things about the new trailers is the new VA for Mary/Maria. She sounds like she's forgotten half her lines and is reading them as she's recording them. Especially in the labyrinth scene, where Maria is in the jail cell. Such a great scene, but in the remake, the line delivery is so off. Especially the line "I'm not your Mary" which had a lot more venom in the OG whereas in the remake it sounds like Maria is actually apologising to James for not being "your Mary" (not intentional)

Just give me that SH 1-4 master collection.

 

[Nameless One]

Especially the line "I'm not your Mary" which had a lot more venom in the OG whereas in the remake it sounds like Maria is actually apologising to James for not being "your Mary" (not intentional)

The venom came from the OG Voice Actress literally swapping between Mary and Maria's voice during it. Now it's offset and on the wrong lines which makes it worse. "I'm not your Mary" is in MARY's voice in the original as I pointed out which fulfills how creepy and uneasy the scene is and also aheres to the sex, death, love and the Maria design aspect of the game Sato described during the making of sh2 documentary. (Sexy, but also scary).

 

[Lone MacReady II]

People really need to get the fuck over P.T. already. It's dead and it's not coming back. I'm so tired and fed up with seeing autistic reddit faggots who to this day still insist that Kojima is somehow still involved with P.T./Silent Hills anytime he tweets anything about the game and they think it's part of some very elaborate viral marketing ruse and that he's still going to revive a game that got canceled a fucking decade ago by a company he no longer works at.

Worse still is that in jewgle searches/the plebic mind some people think Kojima was like a "pivotal creator" of Silent Hill. These are the people who can only ever seem to name Kojima in regards to Silent Hill, and MAYBE Yamaoka and Ito on a good day. The best of them might be able to dig deep and name Sato, but none seem to know about Owaku, Akihiro, or Tsuboyama, arguably the most important people.

 

[Pepe Cortisona]

Worse still is that in jewgle searches/the plebic mind some people think Kojima was like a "pivotal creator" of Silent Hill. These are the people who can only ever seem to name Kojima in regards to Silent Hill, and MAYBE Yamaoka and Ito on a good day. The best of them might be able to dig deep and name Sato, but none seem to know about Owaku, Akihiro, or Tsuboyama, arguably the most important people.

I would also add to that list Keiichiro Toyama, not that unknown but also rarely mentioned nowadays when it comes to Silent Hill.

 

[Fluff]

you have people who believe having ultra 4k realistic graphics is better than having an actual aesthetic/style/vision. They have watered down absolutely everything good about the game in the name of making it look realistic...

This is an issue I see with a lot of people that goes far beyond Silent Hill. They have little or no appreciation for a games aesthetic or atmosphere and care more about how big the textures are and its (current) technical quality instead of any artistic merit. Some recent examples being people that want a full graphical update to Bloodborne instead of a straight port or the extremely unnecessary Dead Space remake.

The vibe of the Team Silent era titles still put most horror games to shame two decades later, but then they see 128x128 textures and compression artifacts from a FMV so that must mean any artistic value that game has must be thrown out the window.

 

[Brain Problems]

Is this an issue where the fidelity of games is almost cranked up too high now and the resulting pseudo-realism is too strong causing everything to just blend into each other? This is where the strong art/creative direction comes in allowing you to possibly thread the needle of having something that makes retards obsessed with ray-tracing and polygon counts drool while also maintaining a sense of visual uniqueness and style comparable to what the originals in the series were capable of wherein objects actually stand out rather than blend endlessly in with the rest of the 4K environments?

The best example I have is the difference between taking a point and shoot camera from 2000 but having creative lighting, framing, angles versus a brand new DSLR taking some 50mp shot but with zero attention to anything else beyond the photo itself. I just cannot get past how shitty the Maria jail scene looks compared to the original, it's honestly shockingly incompetent and everything else I've seen of the direction looks like more of the same.

 

[Nameless One]

Mostly good news
They finally restored the PS2 flashlight reflection I always nitpicked them not having and some more. Sad that its the final update but hopefully they'll look at SH3 and 4 next. An hour long is neat, the missing audio for most of the comparisons is a little awkward but passable. Also added SH1 SH3 and SH4 easter eggs for fans.

 

[Nameless One]

Sorry if doubleposting I can't edit the one above, in other news about the only games that matter;

Something new was found in Silent Hill 4. Long live SH4. And Rodolfo's work.

 

[Brain Problems]

Mostly good news
They finally restored the PS2 flashlight reflection I always nitpicked them not having and some more. Sad that its the final update but hopefully they'll look at SH3 and 4 next. An hour long is neat, the missing audio for most of the comparisons is a little awkward but passable. Also added SH1 SH3 and SH4 easter eggs for fans.

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The work these autists have put into the game blows my mind. Comparing base PC SH2 with the enhanced v10 is wild. That said, unsure I like what they've done with some of the close-up remastering, they look a bit too clean/shiny.

 

[Nameless One]

The work these autists have put into the game blows my mind. Comparing base PC SH2 with the enhanced v10 is wild. That said, unsure I like what they've done with some of the close-up remastering, they look a bit too clean/shiny.

Yeah the PS2 version remains the best way to play. With 60fps hacks and a crt shader.

 

[LatinoFlamingo]

How are you disappointed in the autistic consoomer faggot who defended halo infinite and 343
Who strawmans Silent Hill 4 fans every time he even brings up the name, who thinks himself the brighter and enlightened for autists, AND I SEE AUTISTS get behind him as an arbiter.
I've fucking hated Max Derrat for a long time.
he who makes pretentious pseud video essays on anime he JUST watched and normify them
Go join his discord to immediately read the room of where he stands.
This is the fucking guy who tried to say Rockstar's MANHUNT 1 is Nihilistic he paints ANYTHING BLEAK IN FICTION as NIHILISTIC. I hope he never EVER covers Hotline Miami or other goodies. He already misunderstood Texhnolyze.
Max Derrat is the EPITOME of popcorn philosophy channels and video essayists who expect their opinions to be given a fuck about and rely on their audience too much. Yeah... thats a nice term I can use to describe faggots like Max and Sisyphus 55. Degrading popcorn philosophy mindrot.

I know right. And he’s becoming even worse in his latest videos where he constantly talks like a manchild whenever he gets excited or angry. Such as: https://youtu.be/yQNuLfqc9Xs?si=Gup6qf8eJB-l1sLd and https://youtu.be/AsWfZKS8syE?si=6-NC2FTDaTy90AX-

I thought that retard said he wants to improve himself from his autism videos…

 

[Nameless One]

Absurdly soulless
God I fucking hate modern UI. At least they kind of have the inventory screen judging by the gameplay demo when they were doing the puzzles but holy shit its just RE Slop without color. RE7 was the last good RE menu btw the tape player was so kino, then they got lazy and minimalist with re2 and onward. Even Re6 had a great menu. Yknow, just to shit all over modern game menus even more, I been playing Armored Core 3 on a ps2 emulator and that game has a fully 3d menu and it is simple but effective, its got aesthetics.

While I despise the lighting they did seem to essentially copy the bathroom aesthetic. Its too bad they are using the HD Collection as a base (same sped up item pickup sounds, improper sound files where the mannequins scream fast and high pitched).
The reason why I hate it is because it is obscuring the work and vibe the bathroom had with the Bible verses scattered on the walls, and the religious references like the drawing of Lilith from a Jewish thing. Also is obscuring Maria's poster.

Also I like how they changed James face due to backlash but never revealed the other characters fucked up faces so they could do less work or cause Konami didn't let them until close to release. edit: nvm???



Still looks far lesssr than the original fmvs but eh. She looks too alive and less dead inside like everything about what we seen.


I kind of like the additions to the environment like the sawmills and cornfield and the car shop it adds to the part of the outskirts, and at least Silent Hill Ranch isn't in comic sans. I might pirate it if the performance on PC can be stable 1080p 60fps without antialiasing (it won't be). With all this gameplay we are getting they should release a demo to copy RE further.
I like they kept the Jack Nicholson shining poster

 

[Lone MacReady II]

I know right. And he’s becoming even worse in his latest videos where he constantly talks like a manchild whenever he gets excited or angry. Such as: https://youtu.be/yQNuLfqc9Xs?si=Gup6qf8eJB-l1sLd and https://youtu.be/AsWfZKS8syE?si=6-NC2FTDaTy90AX-

I thought that retard said he wants to improve himself from his autism videos…

He is near single-handedly responsible for assholes thinking the end of MGS2 is the most intellectual thing ever created. I like elements of it too, but it's the same game with bisexual nano-vampires, the president of america cupping Raiden's balls, and Ocelot somehow being possessed by a sentient arm... the game is also retarded westaboo Jap fanfiction.

 

[derpherp2]

You know the one silver lining to playing a decrepit copy of something you loved that looks like some faded hooker that barely even looks and acts human?

I'll finally truly understand how James is feeling whenever he sees Mary.

Unrelated note: anyone know if it has denuvo? Asking for a friend.

 

[Nameless One]

You know the one silver lining to playing a decrepit copy of something you loved that looks like some faded hooker that barely even looks and acts human?

I'll finally truly understand how James is feeling whenever he sees Mary.

Unrelated note: anyone know if it has denuvo? Asking for a friend.

Nvm who knows. Hopefully fitgirl comes through. On a far more fun note
Vinny is finally doing it (hopefully he doesn't abandon this playthrough but I wouldn't blame him the moment the 2nd half happens), the second half contains the best looking levels they made imo just not fun to play.