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Bullpup RPK-74 in use by an Al Qaeda militant in Idlib, Syria
A company by the name of White Wolf Concepts looks to be selling what is essentially a clone of the QVO Tactical "Thumb Cliff" but in Aluminum and with additional texturing
BRN-180 with an Aero Handguard, made possible via a Lingle Industries adapter
Glac-11, It's self explanatory
Browning X-bolt long action extended mag, replaces the original 3 round rotary version, uses an AICS magazine spring
SRU Precision Bullpup conversion for BRN-180, PSA Jakl, FM-15 and AR's with short buffers.
I falsely believed that this conversion kit when it was still a prototype was an an adaptation of an Airsoft kit for use with a real firearm, as SRU Precision is a manufacturer of Airsoft products, but it is in fact a dedicated product for real firearms.
Another photo of a bullpup shotgun conversion by digital nightvision retailer Hoplite Industries
New "Flip off" Riser from Flip Defense for use with the Primary Arms Microprism
Printed CETME Flat bending jig
Black Lotus Coalition Harlot derringer adapted into a .22 shotgun with a 16mm hydraulic tubing barrel
Here's your slick recce end user concept product solution, bro
Lastly I wanted to write a bunch of words that will make up a relatively coherent idea
Have you ever seen the movie Predator (1987)? It's sick as hell, but one of the coolest parts is Jesse Ventura's character and his Minigun with backpack ammo feed. The depiction of the M134 in such a manner has had an undeniable impact on pop culture and has been replicated in numerous mediums. As with anything firearm related in media it has been (rightly) denigrated by knowledgeable persons as unrealistic and impractical. But what if I told you that with modern technology a similar concept (that is an infantryman operated handheld minigun) is not only achievable but relatively practical (but still stupid)
To bring this concept together we need a few things
1. 1x Empty Shell LLC 5.56mm "Microgun" modified to have a pistol grip, butt stock and underbarrel(s) rail for the mounting of a bipod and allowing the shooter to get an actual grip and a tuned down fire rate, say between 600-1k rpm. Empty Shell says that the Microgun weighs 16lbs (but doesn't state if this is with a 10'' or 16'' barrel, for the purpose of this thought exercise I will add several pounds when assuming a 16'' model with all the necessary modifications)
2. 1x IWA International 1000 round ammo pack modified to work with the Microgun.
3. 1x Mawashi UPRISE passive exoskeleton
Some math on ammunition (using 62gr 5.56 for all ammunition weight metrics) and how advances in technology make infantry minuguns more realistic
1k rounds of linked 5.56 = 31.5lbs
1k rounds of linked True Velocity Polymer Cased 5.56 =23.9lbs
1k rounds of linked Shell Shock Technologies NAS3 5.56 =17.9lbs
If you were to use Textron case telescoped ammunition you would get a result of 19.1lbs BUT you would probably get a similar overall system weight to the NAS3 cases because the CT ammunition takes up 12% less volume than every other option meaning your ammo pack, feed chute and internal mechanism on the microgun would be smaller so you would probably save 1-2lbs overall
Overall system weight with the ammo pack
Brass case =40.5lbs
Polymer case = 32.9lbs
NAS3 =26.9lbs
Textron CT = 29.1lbs (but probably in actuality 27.1 or 28.1lbs due to the reduced size of the feed chute and ammo pack)
Modified microgun with 16'' barrel =24ish lbs
So total weight would be
Brass = 64.5lbs
Polymer = 56.9lbs
NAS3 = 50.9lbs
CT = 53.1 (but probably 51.1 or 52.1 lbs)
This weight doesn't really represent reality because in this concept the wielder is clad in a Mawashi UPRISE passive exoskeleton which has a minimum (while engaged in certain kinds of walking) 50% weight transference and up to 94% transference when standing and not moving for anything suspended on it's frame so ammunition (but not the gun itself) weight can be cut in half to the following values
Brass = 32.25lbs +17.6lbs for the UPRISE itself* = 49.85lbs
Polymer = 28.45lbs +17.6 = 46lbs
NAS3 = 25.45lbs + 17.6 = 44lbs
CT = 26.55lbs (but as I keep saying probably 24.55 or 25.55lbs in actuality) +17.6 = 44.15lbs ( 42.15, 43.15lbs etc etc)
*This is based on the weight of the Mawashi as it was in 2018 when it weighed 8kg, Mawashi itself said it wanted to reduce that weight to 4kg (8.8lbs) and operating the assumption that they achieved this the values would be
Brass = 40.25lbs + 24lbs for the Microgun = 64.25lbs
Polymer = 36.45lbs +24 = 60.45lbs
NAS3 = 33.45lbs +24 =57.45lbs
CT 34.55lbs (32.55, 33.55lbs) +24 = 58.55lbs (56.55, 57.55lbs)
So all in all, weight wise anyway a modified 5.56 shoulder fired minigun isn't really all that impractical.
I also couldn't be assed to the math for hypothetical polymer M27 links similar to those the both Russians and Ukranians are playing with but that would only reduce the load by around 1-2lbs per 1k rnds.
Such a thing would never be built because
1. It's stupid
2. The MIC are cowards who are slaves to practicality.
A company by the name of White Wolf Concepts looks to be selling what is essentially a clone of the QVO Tactical "Thumb Cliff" but in Aluminum and with additional texturing
BRN-180 with an Aero Handguard, made possible via a Lingle Industries adapter
Glac-11, It's self explanatory
Browning X-bolt long action extended mag, replaces the original 3 round rotary version, uses an AICS magazine spring
SRU Precision Bullpup conversion for BRN-180, PSA Jakl, FM-15 and AR's with short buffers.
I falsely believed that this conversion kit when it was still a prototype was an an adaptation of an Airsoft kit for use with a real firearm, as SRU Precision is a manufacturer of Airsoft products, but it is in fact a dedicated product for real firearms.
The company also has an upcoming model for 10/22's
Another photo of a bullpup shotgun conversion by digital nightvision retailer Hoplite Industries
New "Flip off" Riser from Flip Defense for use with the Primary Arms Microprism
Printed CETME Flat bending jig
Black Lotus Coalition Harlot derringer adapted into a .22 shotgun with a 16mm hydraulic tubing barrel
Here's your slick recce end user concept product solution, bro
Lastly I wanted to write a bunch of words that will make up a relatively coherent idea
Have you ever seen the movie Predator (1987)? It's sick as hell, but one of the coolest parts is Jesse Ventura's character and his Minigun with backpack ammo feed. The depiction of the M134 in such a manner has had an undeniable impact on pop culture and has been replicated in numerous mediums. As with anything firearm related in media it has been (rightly) denigrated by knowledgeable persons as unrealistic and impractical. But what if I told you that with modern technology a similar concept (that is an infantryman operated handheld minigun) is not only achievable but relatively practical (but still stupid)
To bring this concept together we need a few things
1. 1x Empty Shell LLC 5.56mm "Microgun" modified to have a pistol grip, butt stock and underbarrel(s) rail for the mounting of a bipod and allowing the shooter to get an actual grip and a tuned down fire rate, say between 600-1k rpm. Empty Shell says that the Microgun weighs 16lbs (but doesn't state if this is with a 10'' or 16'' barrel, for the purpose of this thought exercise I will add several pounds when assuming a 16'' model with all the necessary modifications)
2. 1x IWA International 1000 round ammo pack modified to work with the Microgun.
3. 1x Mawashi UPRISE passive exoskeleton
Some math on ammunition (using 62gr 5.56 for all ammunition weight metrics) and how advances in technology make infantry minuguns more realistic
1k rounds of linked 5.56 = 31.5lbs
1k rounds of linked True Velocity Polymer Cased 5.56 =23.9lbs
1k rounds of linked Shell Shock Technologies NAS3 5.56 =17.9lbs
If you were to use Textron case telescoped ammunition you would get a result of 19.1lbs BUT you would probably get a similar overall system weight to the NAS3 cases because the CT ammunition takes up 12% less volume than every other option meaning your ammo pack, feed chute and internal mechanism on the microgun would be smaller so you would probably save 1-2lbs overall
Overall system weight with the ammo pack
Brass case =40.5lbs
Polymer case = 32.9lbs
NAS3 =26.9lbs
Textron CT = 29.1lbs (but probably in actuality 27.1 or 28.1lbs due to the reduced size of the feed chute and ammo pack)
Modified microgun with 16'' barrel =24ish lbs
So total weight would be
Brass = 64.5lbs
Polymer = 56.9lbs
NAS3 = 50.9lbs
CT = 53.1 (but probably 51.1 or 52.1 lbs)
This weight doesn't really represent reality because in this concept the wielder is clad in a Mawashi UPRISE passive exoskeleton which has a minimum (while engaged in certain kinds of walking) 50% weight transference and up to 94% transference when standing and not moving for anything suspended on it's frame so ammunition (but not the gun itself) weight can be cut in half to the following values
Brass = 32.25lbs +17.6lbs for the UPRISE itself* = 49.85lbs
Polymer = 28.45lbs +17.6 = 46lbs
NAS3 = 25.45lbs + 17.6 = 44lbs
CT = 26.55lbs (but as I keep saying probably 24.55 or 25.55lbs in actuality) +17.6 = 44.15lbs ( 42.15, 43.15lbs etc etc)
*This is based on the weight of the Mawashi as it was in 2018 when it weighed 8kg, Mawashi itself said it wanted to reduce that weight to 4kg (8.8lbs) and operating the assumption that they achieved this the values would be
Brass = 40.25lbs + 24lbs for the Microgun = 64.25lbs
Polymer = 36.45lbs +24 = 60.45lbs
NAS3 = 33.45lbs +24 =57.45lbs
CT 34.55lbs (32.55, 33.55lbs) +24 = 58.55lbs (56.55, 57.55lbs)
So all in all, weight wise anyway a modified 5.56 shoulder fired minigun isn't really all that impractical.
I also couldn't be assed to the math for hypothetical polymer M27 links similar to those the both Russians and Ukranians are playing with but that would only reduce the load by around 1-2lbs per 1k rnds.
Such a thing would never be built because
1. It's stupid
2. The MIC are cowards who are slaves to practicality.
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