Sony hate thread

[Caddo Cobgang]

I know I sound like a broken record, but every generation of consoles from 2005 on has just been slowly reinventing the PC, except needlessly gimped.

and that's why the free market is biting Sony in the ass, only the most diehard Consoomers are going to even buy it, the sales of this will be very low because at that price point (maybe slightly higher) you can just get a PC

 

[marvlouslie]

I'll play it on my 10 year old 3rd gen i5 based PC with a R9 200 series 4gb video card and 16gb of RAM without spending a penny further for it.

PC and console tech both have plateaued so hard that were just waiting for the crash and shakeout and next generation of completely different hardware to re-invigorate the industry like in 1985.

I'm running a Ryzen 5 5600 + Rx 580 (8gig), and it runs most of the games I want to play at 1080p at Medium / Low settings. I've got a PS5 Slim for damn near everything else. I'm still trying to figure out what the benefit of a "pro" model of the PS5 is, considering it's $200 bucks more expensive than the base model or the Slim version. Watching fanboys try and justify the price hike and the Pro's very existence is a fucking headscratcher.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I'm running a Ryzen 5 5600 + Rx 580 (8gig), and it runs most of the games I want to play at 1080p at Medium / Low settings. I've got a PS5 Slim for damn near everything else. I'm still trying to figure out what the benefit of a "pro" model of the PS5 is, considering it's $200 bucks more expensive than the base model or the Slim version. Watching fanboys try and justify the price hike and the Pro's very existence is a fucking headscratcher.

Its for people who don't have a gaming PC, duh.

 

[Bananadana]

What a load of horseshit. To set up and play the "content" you purchase (first time power on), you have to:

• Connect the display
• Connect power
• Connect the controller
• Select your language
• Configure your internet connection (mandatory)
• Accept the terms and conditions
• Update the system software
• Log into your PSN account (or create one)
• Either load the disc and install the "content" to the hard drive (lol no running off the disc, are you kidding?) or go to the online store and download your "content"
• Navigate the home page to find your "content" and press whatever buttons are needed to select and launch it
• Accept their terms and conditions

And what is this "no ads" garbage?

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Wanna tell me what percentage of this home page is dedicated to listing the shit you've paid for and have immediate access to? Oh right, it's that little tiny bar of tiny icons at top-left. The entire rest of the screen is fucking ads.

Fuck you Hideaki Nishino, you lying fucking faggot.

You forgot the part where you now also have to open up and re-assemble the thing yourself.

But that was always the point of a console! The assumption is that a developer can granularly tailor their game to a known hardware spec to give the player an optimal experience.

I know I sound like a broken record, but every generation of consoles from 2005 on has just been slowly reinventing the PC, except needlessly gimped.

In a sane world, where developers are not retarded ultraniggers, this would be true.
But after the late 360/ early PS4 era "25 FPS is cinematic" stuff, i would rather be able to decide what i consider an optimal experience myself.

That being said, fully agree that at modern consoles are just a (more) baby-proof PC.

 

[Manimal House]

Damn, it only took them thirty fucking years to give Playstation an actual mascot with it's own game!

As for the PS5 Pro price, it sounds like the issue isn't so much the price itself but the timing of it all. Too many people are broke right now, inflation is high, it's just not a good time for a new expensive toy to go out on the market. I'll bet that Nintendo already has the Switch successor completely finalized but they were around during the game crash of the 80's and learned that most people aren't going to splurge on toys when they're too busy working to get bills paid. Japan's in a pretty bad economic state as well, aren't they? I don't doubt that their new console will also be expensive but putting out a pricey, beefed up version of the same console when many just got their hands on the first one feels like a slap in the face. It's like the opposite of what they've done in the past where they'd release the 'slim' versions.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Damn, it only took them thirty fucking years to give Playstation an actual mascot with it's own game!

As for the PS5 Pro price, it sounds like the issue isn't so much the price itself but the timing of it all. Too many people are broke right now, inflation is high, it's just not a good time for a new expensive toy to go out on the market. I'll bet that Nintendo already has the Switch successor completely finalized but they were around during the game crash of the 80's and learned that most people aren't going to splurge on toys when they're too busy working to get bills paid. Japan's in a pretty bad economic state as well, aren't they? I don't doubt that their new console will also be expensive but putting out a pricey, beefed up version of the same console when many just got their hands on the first one feels like a slap in the face. It's like the opposite of what they've done in the past where they'd release the 'slim' versions.

The worst part of Japan's economic issues is that Nintendo has to convert its shitty yen into real money in order to buy components (that are all waterlogged now due to the typhoon) while the profits won't get converted back into yen until a time when the yen is less awful. So 35000 yen becomes 200 dollars becomes a Switch 2 becomes 350 dollars becomes 32000 yen if things aren't done right, just becauseof currency conversions. They're in a really dicey place right now as to when to actually convert currency in order to pay for production of Switch 2.

 

[The handsome tard]

There we have it folks, console will remain their primary focus. So better stop buying the pc, lol..



Sony Boss Says 'PCs Are Difficult to Set Up', Firm Will Focus on PS5

A bit of a power level but I didnt build my gaming rig. What I did, however, was buying all the pieces and then I handed to some guys to put it together since I couldnt learn how to do it for the life of me. I still took the effort to buy the components and study them and all.

But hey, its easier ditch 800 bucks for the "convenience".

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

Another cope from Soyny fans is the convenience of owning a console, as if turning on your PC and setting Steam to "Big Picture Mode" doesn't exist in 2024.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

The final insult to me is games that offer you "quality vs performance mode" in their options. Like what the fuck if I wanted to fool around settings I would do so on an actual PC, not on a fucking plug-and-play device.

Do you want the game to look good but run like shit, or look shit but run good, isn't what I want from a console.

 

[Fcret]

I also find the Sonypony price comparisons a little disingenuous for the simple fact that we're on the verge of a new GPU gen. RDNA4 is hitting soon and it's rumored to be selling 4070/4080 performance for like $400-$500. RTX 5000 series is supposed to be out next year. And with these new gens, the price of previous gens of GPUs is going to go down.

The entire value proposition is going to be even more fucked.

 

[BananaSplit²]

Another cope from Soyny fans is the convenience of owning a console, as if turning on your PC and setting Steam to "Big Picture Mode" doesn't exist in 2024.

That's not entirely wrong though, and I'm someone who heavily favors a console (Switch) over a gaming PC these days because it's a lot more convenient and stable for my games. Turning PC into some sort of 'proto-console' isn't exactly appealing to me, outside of playing titles that I can't have on Switch, especially when I remember fairly well its vidya days in the 00's as its own thing.

However, guys like Hideaki Nishino are delusional to think that people at large are going to fork over that much money into a PS5 Pro when there are two better alternatives between Switch (the much cheaper console with a gigantic catalog of games) and PC (that even relatively decent prebuilts can be found in the same price range).

It's not entirely surprising Sonyfags are running their opinions on very outdated knowledge (less than 1000€ for a gaming computer running everything for years to come was only an impossible order in the 00's as 3D continued to evolve) or missed context (pretending the Japanese solely care for mobile & portable consoles)

 

[LifeAlert]

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"We didn't raise the price, we just changed it... to a higher price than it was before."

Sony was kind enough to give them the privilege of using standard PS5s to flex on poorfags. I'm so jealous of nips. They truly get to live like kings.

 

[DocAwe]

Do you want the game to look good but run like shit, or look shit but run good, isn't what I want from a console.

Fun, I want the game to be fun.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Fun, I want the game to be fun.

Truth

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

That's not entirely wrong though, and I'm someone who heavily favors a console (Switch) over a gaming PC these days because it's a lot more convenient and stable for my games. Turning PC into some sort of 'proto-console' isn't exactly appealing to me, outside of playing titles that I can't have on Switch, especially when I remember fairly well its vidya days in the 00's as its own thing.

However, guys like Hideaki Nishino are delusional to think that people at large are going to fork over that much money into a PS5 Pro when there are two better alternatives between Switch (the much cheaper console with a gigantic catalog of games) and PC (that even relatively decent prebuilts can be found in the same price range).

It's not entirely surprising Sonyfags are running their opinions on very outdated knowledge (less than 1000€ for a gaming computer running everything for years to come was only an impossible order in the 00's as 3D continued to evolve) or missed context (pretending the Japanese solely care for mobile & portable consoles)

Sensible post. Nintendo is the smartest of the big three. Their ability to focus on art style and playability has allowed them to print cash for the last eight years. Realistically, the only two gaming devices you need currently are a PC and a Switch. That pretty much covers everything.

 

[whatever I feel like]

That's not entirely wrong though, and I'm someone who heavily favors a console (Switch) over a gaming PC these days because it's a lot more convenient and stable for my games. Turning PC into some sort of 'proto-console' isn't exactly appealing to me, outside of playing titles that I can't have on Switch, especially when I remember fairly well its vidya days in the 00's as its own thing.

However, guys like Hideaki Nishino are delusional to think that people at large are going to fork over that much money into a PS5 Pro when there are two better alternatives between Switch (the much cheaper console with a gigantic catalog of games) and PC (that even relatively decent prebuilts can be found in the same price range).

It's not entirely surprising Sonyfags are running their opinions on very outdated knowledge (less than 1000€ for a gaming computer running everything for years to come was only an impossible order in the 00's as 3D continued to evolve) or missed context (pretending the Japanese solely care for mobile & portable consoles)

You can't really call the Switch a competitor to, specifically, the Pro model of PS5. Because I play Switch downports sometimes and generally speaking they either look or run like dog shit. If I'm unlucky they do both. Its a totally different market segment.

 

[Baraka Obama]

You can't really call the Switch a competitor to, specifically, the Pro model of PS5. Because I play Switch downports sometimes and generally speaking they either look or run like dog shit. If I'm unlucky they do both. Its a totally different market segment.

I don't agree these are really all that different in terms of market, Switch specifically made me not care about Digital Foundry tier visual minutia as much and has taken a lot of money that I would have otherwise spent on home consoles.

Most people would look at it as a series of tradeoffs.

 

[boofit]

Sensible post. Nintendo is the smartest of the big three. Their ability to focus on art style and playability has allowed them to print cash for the last eight years. Realistically, the only two gaming devices you need currently are a PC and a Switch. That pretty much covers everything.

you can easily and perfectly emulate switch on pc and dl the games from rutracker. Not portable but wtf cares.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

At first looks like a shielding video for the game but actually hits the nail on the head on why it failed:

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Sensible post. Nintendo is the smartest of the big three. Their ability to focus on art style and playability has allowed them to print cash for the last eight years. Realistically, the only two gaming devices you need currently are a PC and a Switch. That pretty much covers everything.

ding ding ding, correct, when all platforms offer the same thing its easier to just get a PC