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Again, I'm saying it: Virginia is ON THE TABLE. And, considering the amount of government workers who reside in Northern VA, I think that if Trump wins VA, then he's got GA, NC, and PA in the bag ... And it will be an early election night.

And Youngkin de-fortifying the state helps a helluva lot.
To tell how important Virginia is, If Virginia and Penn go red then the Dems must win 3 battlegrounds (Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada) states to win, Trump will only need to win only 1 one of them

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Edit: If Wisconsin goes red as well as they did in 2016 then it would be permanently Joever
 
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The only victory of the Tet Offensive is that the commies convinced some Americans that the Vietnam War was lost. Again: the Tet Offensive ended in March 1968. Nixon won the election in November. Americans were not opposed to the Vietnam War nearly as much as they were LBJ's handling of it.

In fact, the Tet Offensive ruined American's view of how LBJ handled the war, not so much the war overall. Democrats have successfully lied about this.

I'm not kidding when I say that the casualty differences between the US/South Vietnamese and the Viet Cong/NVA are stark. It was not a huge cost to us or the South Vietnamese considering what the communists expended on that operation.

Also, I don't know why you're going to bat for Walter Cronkite, who was literally in favor of one world government. You will be very, very hard-pressed to convince me or anyone else that Walter Cronkite was some disillusioned, red-blooded Cold Warrior.
I seen a long effort thread on twitter breaking down Cronkite spinning the Tet Offensive as somehow a loss just cemented the American attitude towards it. That shakey coverage at the time has just crystalized into the "facts" that are taught now. I have huge respect for the vietnamese and what they were doing there, and I think we in no way should have been involved with it. But that emotion doesn't cloud the actual facts of the war, at all. I had two uncles killed there, and many extended family killed there as well. I think it's owed to them to be honest about what happened as much as being honest about why. Cronkite's name should be shit on as much as anyone else involved in that fuckign mess.
 
I seen a long effort thread on twitter breaking down Cronkite spinning the Tet Offensive as somehow a loss just cemented the American attitude towards it. That shakey coverage at the time has just crystalized into the "facts" that are taught now. I have huge respect for the vietnamese and what they were doing there, and I think we in no way should have been involved with it. But that emotion doesn't cloud the actual facts of the war, at all. I had two uncles killed there, and many extended family killed there as well. I think it's owed to them to be honest about what happened as much as being honest about why. Cronkite's name should be shit on as much as anyone else involved in that fuckign mess.
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The way that the Vietnam war is portrayed in the West as akin to the victory of David over Goliath is insane. I remember when I first found out that the ratio of Vietcong deaths to US military was at least 10:1, I was blown away. The Vietcong got absolutely fucking wrecked.

It was David vs Goliath if David missed his shot, but the Philistines had a dozen backstabbing traitors shooting slings and arrows at Goliath from behind.

Ignorant fool. Read your history. Nixon deployed B-52s in large numbers, many of which got wrecked.

Since we're ignorant, enlighten us - when was the B-52 designed, and when did it first take flight?
 
Let he who is without shitposts cast the first trash can.
Why throw a trash can when you can just make another shitpost, which can be lovingly characterized as a kind of super trash can?

so you derail it further?
If you could grasp what is being said, by virtue of a system being what it does, this thread is clearly for shitposting, kvetching, and memes (also possibly vintage cartoon discussion). Not whining that one's posts aren't being thoughtfully engaged with in the Autistic Thunderdome. That was a topic years ago in the Meta thread which was roundly mocked ( because it was libs in disguise crying but still).

Relatedly, I would argue this thread should be renamed the US Politics Shitposting Thread, but that's because I enjoy comedy.
 
I seen a long effort thread on twitter breaking down Cronkite spinning the Tet Offensive as somehow a loss just cemented the American attitude towards it. That shakey coverage at the time has just crystalized into the "facts" that are taught now. I have huge respect for the vietnamese and what they were doing there, and I think we in no way should have been involved with it. But that emotion doesn't cloud the actual facts of the war, at all. I had two uncles killed there, and many extended family killed there as well. I think it's owed to them to be honest about what happened as much as being honest about why. Cronkite's name should be shit on as much as anyone else involved in that fuckign mess.
Cronkite turning on Vietnam is big because LBJ and his ball fondlers in the media basically were gaslighting people into thinking they shouldn't think about Veitnam and how many of our kids are being senselessly being killed overseas and Tet was a cold splash of red pill water that this shit was bad, we were NOT winning and shit was only going to get worse not better. It black pilled Cronkite and made him turn on the war, which was huge given how Cronkite was a huge establishment stooge, that it broke the simulation that everything was hunky dory and under control.
 
WE HAD NO GOOD FUCKING REASON TO BE KILLING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Killing commies isn’t a good enough reason?

Even if you want to argue the merits of domino theory, or want to discuss the US failures with respect to veitnam’s decolonization and Ho Chi Minh, the notion that the US had no good reason to be there at all is simply dumb. It may have been outweighed by the ultimate costs, but there were definitely strong policy reasons for America to get involved.
Frankly, the only reason people argue we didn’t have a good reason is because of the costs and its place in the cultural zeitgeist. If it hadn’t been as costly (thought that’s frankly overstated) or been such a flashpoint that hippies and commies in California used for their own ends, nam would be viewed just like Korea.
 
The usual suspects are using the sheriff in Kentucky that killed a judge as proof of MAGA extremism.

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Only, oops, he was a Democrat who was being deposed in a case involving one of his deputies sexually assaulting women who were on house arrest.
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Anyone got that short story posted a while back of a liberal coup where they start a middle east war and use that to kill the Internet and then do a massive right wing purge? Which only backfires when not-Obama balks and it's not to kill all remaining right wing media types once the people start realizing what's going on and leads to one of the ringleaders of the coup opining as she's led to the gallows how the coup would have succeeded had Not-Obama gotten cocky in thinking that they were untouchable and able to dismiss anyone calling them out as conspiracy nuts (and cursing him for fleeing right before the masses rose up and overthrew the left)?

What I saw at the Coup

Loads of re-uploads of it, but this is the original post I believe.


Wow how dare those evil RepubliKKKans demand security and transparency!

I'm not sure where is best to post this but because it involves 2 States I think it fits here.

"Which Mexico are you? New Mexico furious after Texas installs razor wire along its border"
Texas has saw fit to install around 7,000 feet of razor wire along it's border with New Mexico.
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A statement from the New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham.

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Based and Federal System pilled.

On Vietnam: The main people responsible for fucking it up were the US leadership themselves. They got high on their own mythology coming from WW2 and Korea, and made a number of blunders that fucked the entire thing from the start such as snubbing British advisors who had jungle experience and not paying attention to French intel which could have helped kneecap the VC.

It doesn't happen the whole thing was started when it was by a false flag from LBJ, who likely did it to profit off war production and hide his own dirty laundry.
 
also he's leaning hard on the head-in-the-sand sped christcucks who don't vote because MUH WORLDLY THINGS, who are a redonkulously high amount of possible conservative voters
They are some of the most consistent voters in the country, unless your some sort of extreme Anabaptist sect like the Amish no one is going “it’s too worldly to vote” much less evangelicals who are some the most politically active
 
I'm not sure where is best to post this but because it involves 2 States I think it fits here.

"Which Mexico are you? New Mexico furious after Texas installs razor wire along its border"
Texas has saw fit to install around 7,000 feet of razor wire along its border with New Mexico.
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The usual suspects are using the sheriff in Kentucky that killed a judge as proof of MAGA extremism.


Only, oops, he was a Democrat who was being deposed in a case involving one of his deputies sexually assaulting women who were on house arrest.
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This might be one of the worst cases of "only read the headline" I have seen in a good while. A sheriff shooting a corrupt pedophile judge who raped kids is NOT a bad thing.
 
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