Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

Gog & Magog said:
No no no. There is something clearly very different with her physiology. Up close you really can't tell. Even her face didn't betray her years, save for a few wrinkles here and there. I realized her true age after meeting her kids. Not only is she an adult, but she's older than me. :\
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Sounds like she rolled a 1 on her secondary sexual features. Her uterus clearly worked.

Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
So did you fuck her?
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If he did, conservatives are obligated to call him a pedo regardless of the facts.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Does the artist have the right to draw child-like to short, petite characters
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No one is forcing you to draw child like proportions if you want to draw a short petite character.
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Conservatives rightfully blame the Slippery Slope on lots of issues, but this is a case where they're engaging in a Slippery Slope argument themselves. "You like flat-chests, you must be a pedo, ree! You like shortstacks, you must be a pedo!"
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When it comes to the subject of porn, slippery slope tends to be right majority of the time.

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
As this person put it, you have the draw the line somewhere and leave it there. Making a fluid definition for political ends always ends badly. Especially when the Supreme Court has set the definition at whether the art is fictional or not. They made the ruling they did because they have to balance out the First Amendment with Society's demands.
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Learn how to draw a short petite WOMAN. They do not have children's bodies.

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
If he did, conservatives are obligated to call him a pedo regardless of the facts.
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If you fuck someone who physically looks like a child (and that attribute is what turns you on), you're a fucking pedophile. It doesn't matter if she's a 900 year old demon IRL, if she looks like a child and you get horny to that, you're a pedo. Political affiliation has nothing to do with calling things what they are. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and gets horny to people with the anatomical proportions of a child, it's a pedophile.
 
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Equal Rights for Androids said:
No one is forcing you to draw child like proportions if you want to draw a short petite character.

When it comes to the subject of porn, slippery slope tends to be right majority of the time.


Learn how to draw a short petite WOMAN. They do not have children's bodies.


If you fuck someone who physically looks like a child (and that attribute is what turns you on), you're a fucking pedophile. It doesn't matter if she's a 900 year old demon IRL, if she looks like a child and you get horny to that, you're a pedo. Political affiliation has nothing to do with calling things what they are. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and gets horny to people with the anatomical proportions of a child, it's a pedophile.
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Why are getting all MATI? I was using your picture as a definition.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Why are getting all MATI? I was using your picture as a definition.
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Was reaffirming what you said in that post (my writing style tends to come off as me disagreeing with you but I'm not) up until you made a bad argument by claiming conservatives say that if you like anatomically proportional women, they're pedophiles because flatchest short stack. That is an argument perpetuated by the left in defense of pedophilia due to the absurdity of the claim. They know it sounds stupid and it's why they use it. Even though it actually doesn't apply to the characters they are jerking off to, which have child anatomical proportions (to which they then claim it's just a flat chested grown adult woman).

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
If he did, conservatives are obligated to call him a pedo regardless of the facts.
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This is stupid.
 
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Equal Rights for Androids said:
Was reaffirming what you said in that post (my writing style tends to come off as me disagreeing with you but I'm not) up until you made a bad argument by claiming conservatives say that if you like anatomically proportional women, they're pedophiles because flatchest short stack. That is an argument perpetuated by the left in defense of pedophilia due to the absurdity of the claim. They know it sounds stupid and it's why they use it. Even though it actually doesn't apply to the characters they are jerking off to, which have child anatomical proportions (to which they then claim it's just a flat chested grown adult woman).


This is stupid.
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Except while your example should be definitive, I wouldn't say it is generally accepted as definitive. Shadman used to draw shortstack characters that technically fit within your picture's standards, but everyone calls him a pedo artist. Conservatives definitely don't give a damn about the nuances of what constitutes acceptable loli anyways; it's all degenerate to them and all of it, to them, should be banned.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Shadman used to draw shortstack characters that technically fit within your picture's standards, but everyone calls him a pedo artist.
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He's a pedo artist because he drew real children in porn, including Keemstar's daughter.

Shit like this isn't shortstack. It's just a child he claims to be shortstack. Shortstack women don't have these proportions. They're women 5'4" and below that have big ass tiddy. But they still have anatomical proportion of an adult. That's why the size of a character's breasts are not contributors to factoring their age by how they look. Girls as young as 11 can have DD breasts but they still have the proportions of children.

Women that are extraordinarily short and shortstacked like this is actually midget.
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She doesn't have the proportion of a child despite having unusually shortened proportion.

Anatomical proportion looks at size of head in relation to shoulder in relation to torso length/width. No petite adult woman maintains the ratio of a prepubescent child unless they're deformed (and you're still a pedophile if you jerk off to a woman with a prepubescent child's body).

This is what shortstack actually refers to. Notice that she doesn't have the body of a prepubescent child despite being much shorter.
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
acceptable loli anyways; it's all degenerate to them and all of it, to them, should be banned.
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There is no such thing as acceptable loli. Drawn child porn is drawn child porn.
 
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Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Anyways, the subtext of this question is artistic freedom. Does the artist have the right to draw child-like to short, petite characters?
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Doing what? What is the artist having a character like that do?
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Conservatives rightfully blame the Slippery Slope on lots of issues, but this is a case where they're engaging in a Slippery Slope argument themselves. "You like flat-chests, you must be a pedo, ree! You like shortstacks, you must be a pedo!"
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This is not a real problem anyone faces in their daily life.
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Conservatives definitely don't give a damn about the nuances of what constitutes acceptable loli anyways;
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uhhhh what
 
TheRaptorJesus said:
Lets all remember that a lot of the anti-loli crusaders always end up being actual pedos. Dr. Pizza and Amir0x to name a couple. Then we have the people in the UN raping children for food and trying to ban loli.

Drawing aren't real. Neg, dumb, whatever you want.
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Yeah, sure Dr Pizza was a creep but was he a pedo serial killer? Did he openly brag about going to Thailand to rape children, just as one of the biggest influencers of Lolicon did?
Rethink your stance, retard.
 
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For me, something is drawn child porn and raises massive red flags if it meets any of the following criteria:

- It's drawn in a realistic style regardless of the characters being fictional or not (ex.: RapeLay)

- It's traced after real children and uses them as references (ex.: The author of Assigned Male tracing pictures of real babies for his babyfur comic)

- It's a drawing out of a real child (ex.: Shadman's drawings out of Dafne Keen, Mia Keem and LtCorbis)

- It uses photos or videos of real children in the process

(also bonus if it's not tagged properly and it's out there for everyone to see, especially if people use said content to groom children. In my opinion all lolicon/proship content should be tagged 18+ so impressionable minors can't see them.)


Also, it's just creepy when someone makes detailed jokes about raping a loli character, makes their entire personality revolve around it and also reblogs pictures of real kids.

While I completely and utterly loathe cartoon justice warriors who make an entire moral panic over drawings, dogpile artists who make tagged hentai of Tails the Fox (after deliberately bypassing the filters blocking it from public view), screech at people over "pwobwematic" ships and consider panty shots of Filia from Skullgirls to be "child porn", there are lines I'm definitely not going to cross. No artists should cross these certain lines. And said lines have been specified up above.
 
Leaded Gasoline said:
Why would the government not just use real child porn if they want to fuck you over? The 3 letter agencies already are the largest child porn distributors
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Because now they can use edge cases like fictional pictures and they don't have to plant real CP to convict. A defense lawyer might have the sense to look at the upload source, but if it isn't technically connected to the FBI, he has a harder time defending you when you were the one on Rule 34.
 
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