Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

All you've achieved is making yourself look like a paedophile though.

Why would banning loli take any resources away from "people producing CP that's actually harming real flesh and blood children"

Banning child porn, whether drawn or real, from being freely distributed doesn't consume any resourse by itself.

However anyone going out of their way to obtain it at that point can reasonably be assumed to be an actual danger to children, put on a register, and monitored.

Because moral panic.

 

[lamppost]

Because moral panic.

Why are you trying to conflate people's repultion towards child porn being openly created and distributed as "moral panic"?

It's very easy to not draw or seek out drawn child porn, there's no fedora tipping grey area here, we can all tell what is meant to depict a child and what isn't, there's literally no reason for this shit to legally exist.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Why are you trying to conflate people's repultion towards child porn being openly created and distributed as "moral panic"?

It's very easy to not draw or seek out drawn child porn, there's no fedora tipping grey area here, we can all tell what is meant to depict a child and what isn't, there's literally no reason for this shit to legally exist.

Funny, because the Miller test itself is filled with grey area when it comes to fictional depictions.

• Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest,
• Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions[4] specifically defined by applicable state law,
• Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.[note 1]

Because the conservatives want to do away with the fictional standard altogether, which will result in overly broad prosecutions. Remember that they tried to cancel culture James Gunn on the allegation, not the actual evidence, of child porn. That was witch hunt behavior on the part of the Right, not the Left. Liking loli anime is suddenly illegal if you get Judge Matt Walsh.

"I know it when I see it" doesn't work in Clown World where we have LGBT+ and Anti-sex feminists in the legal system too. Remember that Kentaji Brown officially doesn't know what a woman is. Do you really expect her or Sotomayor to know the difference between fictional loli-con and shortstacks? They're just as likely to be petty and rule any woman under 25 counts as a minor, just to be safe. The grey area has expanded significantly, instead of consistent case law.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

"I know it when I see it" doesn't work in Clown World where we have LGBT+ and Anti-sex feminists in the legal system too. Remember that Kentaji Brown officially doesn't know what a woman is. Do you really expect her or Sotomayor to know the difference between fictional loli-con and shortstacks?

You'd maybe have a point IF we didn't have a conservative majority, which is conservative enough to even get fucking Roe v Wade overturned.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

You'd maybe have a point IF we didn't have a conservative majority, which is conservative enough to even get fucking Roe v Wade overturned.

You're also assuming that this conservative majority will last long enough when the Left is still doing the long march of the institutions. The court adheres to the Constitution (more or less) for now, but partisan appointees are more likely to be nominated in the future, not less.

 

[lamppost]

Nobody is going to be locked away for looking at dwarf porn, you're massively overcomplicating this. Content hosting websites and search engines would be prohibited from hosting or indexing loli hentai, and would be responsible for maintaining the rules.

"Not looking like an actual child" is hardly some impossible standard for cartoon porn artists to follow, they don't need to go anywhere near the 'grey area' for this to be an issue unless they're purposefully courting paedophiles, in which case they only have themselves to blame if their 'art' is deemed to be loli hentai and removed from the hosting website.

 

[Kulee Baba]

It actually has nothing to do with freedom of speech or whether obscene smut can have perverse effects. It's that when individuals openly broadcast their interest in such perverted material we assume you're a pedo because you're displaying a clear interest in it.

If I start writing about how I like redheads & I think freckles are cute well you can assume I have an attraction to gingers. Why because I just typed it and I'm fine letting people know I think Karen Gillan is gorgeous.

Johnny Law is not going to break your door down because you saw something 4chan or whatever Hentai database replaced SadPanda. They will likely use it as evidence against you if you start writing how you like that garbage (and amass a collection) and you're accused of more abhorrent crimes. In the same way if you're accused of murder detectives will look thru your search engine history and argue your guilt because you were searching for locations to dump a body.

If you're directly criticizing Kiwifarms for happily accusing suspicious lolcows as being pedos (Vito, Digibro, Vaush) all I gotta say is lol calm down. Because to this day online accusations barely hold any sway. If they did then Null would have to be far more strict in content moderation because then there would be more legitimate defamation lawsuits. Look at Chris Tyson, he did not get fired by MrBeast for being a fucking creep who bought Shadman's disgusting smut. He got fired for being a pervert while knowingly chatting with children online.

 

[Carmen The Aids Rabbit]

Oh great, I see the pedo defense force is here.

There's that rot I was talking about, shit, why would pedophiles want to infect this site? It's not like we're archiving their sick fuckery or anything. You think they would do that, try to fuck a site that's bringing attention to their crimes? A site that keeps a handy-dandy list of nonces for people to check on and keep their kids away from?

Now if you excuse me I'm gonna touch some grass. @Null, thank you for your service, watch out for these people in your site.
@Cats you are pretty cool, I'm gonna miss ya, mate

 

[Mad Hunter]

Because it is natural, normal, and moral to express even the slightest bit of discomfort to child-aged and/or child-shaped things being put in sexual situations.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

You're also assuming that this conservative majority will last long enough when the Left is still doing the long march of the institutions. The court adheres to the Constitution (more or less) for now, but partisan appointees are more likely to be nominated in the future, not less.

Well, this post aged poorly...

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Well, this post aged poorly...

No, you're shifting over into the Woke Right. As I predicted.

 

[Kiwisee]

This is why nobody can have this conversation, because when you try to explain the difference between a little girl and a developed woman, it comes off like you know a bit too much about little girls and it sounds like you're a creep. It's the pedophilia vs. hebephilia thing, it never helps when you try to explain it, no matter how much sense it might make.

Also I don't know why you started that post as if you were creating a counterargument to me, I agree with everything you posted and nothing I said was in contention with you. I was referring to the rather large crowd of twitterites and redditors who think they're funny for pointing out the "pedophilia" and "creepiness" about someone's waifu being a (strangely well developed) 16 year old high school girl from a 2008 anime; one that particular person likely saw when they were around the same age as the character. Of course, these are the people who are FUCKING RETARDED as you mentioned, but this ignorant attitude is widespread among zoomers in particular.

I find it hilarious how poorly this person’s post history has aged considering what was allegedly in the DM leaks (if the comments on his page are to be believed).

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

No, you're shifting over into the Woke Right. As I predicted.

So mainstream 90's-style conservatism is the "Woke Right"? Good luck explaining that one.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

So mainstream 90's-style conservatism is the "Woke Right"? Good luck explaining that one.

It's self evident, wokie.

 

[Spud]

Woke Right.

The "woke right" doesn't exist libtard.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The "woke right" doesn't exist libtard.

Gaslighting the behavior of Matt Walsh and Melonie Mac proves the Woke Right exist.

 

[Spud]

Gaslighting the behavior of Matt Walsh and Melonie Mac proves the Woke Right exist.

You think I agree with the retards? They're just stepping stones to be stepped on, call them what ever you want. I want to be left alone but the reason to be left alone must be made first.

 

[Großmann]

Gaslighting the behavior of Matt Walsh and Melonie Mac proves the Woke Right exist.

Define the term “Woke Right” for me. I see it used a lot and have no idea what is actually mean by people that use it.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Define the term “Woke Right” for me. I see it used a lot and have no idea what is actually mean by people that use it.

Censorious fucks trying to use the Evangelicalist playbook of the 1980s to browbeat regular people into compliance. GoonerGate is caused by the Woke Right.

 

[Großmann]

Censorious fucks trying to use the Evangelicalist playbook of the 1980s to browbeat regular people into compliance. GoonerGate is caused by the Woke Right.

Are you saying that censorship and restrictions on media is outright wrong or are you saying that censoring porn specifically is wrong? Which one is what makes a person part of the “Woke Right?”