It's all good hearing that the 1000th game has been ruined by wokeness, but then what? Can they tell us why this is happening? Can they tell us who is behind it? Can they tell us what the alternative is? Do they have any thoughts on what is happening other than lol another fat black tranny in media?
Sure, but that's essentially saying "you're doing something good, but not good enough." At that point it's a "well if it isn't good enough for you then do it yourself" situation.
Point is, at least they're doing
something about it, and shining a light on the problem is more important than you think. It's the only reason there's any pushback at all. All the rest of us are doing is voting with our wallets, but even then there's a depressing amount of people who say they hate woke shit but then buy something like Baldur's Gate 3.
I am late to this topic, but here's my thoughts:
I am really high right now
For the most part, if I don't think about it, absolutely yes loli/shota enjoyers are pedos. That is my gut reaction.
However, I hesitate because a sizeable portion of women has rape fantasies. However, none of those women actually want to be raped. Still, she fantasizes about it as just that: a fantasy. She may enjoy rape pornography or erotica (I mean, there are definitely boddice rippers that border on rape fantasy and probably go way beyond that border) and get off to it, but still finds actual real life rape repugnant.
That's basically the only reason I stop and hesitate. Even with a guy fantasizing about being the rapist, I can't condemn him as a likely rapist because it's very possible he only gets off to it in a fantasy context (i.e. roleplaying in the bedroom.) With that, the rapist fantasizer and the rapee fantasizer obviously get off on some kind of power imbalance, but have no desire to exercise that outside of a roleplay context.
Then there's the weird fetishes like inflation. I'm going to assume that most inflation fetishists are fully aware that inflation does not work that way in real life, and I really, really doubt that they would go abduct women and stick a bicycle pump in them. Or like... I don't think bronies would go out and actually fuck horses in real life. They're cooming over something purely fictional. But I guess you could also say that loli/shota has a much closer border to real life than inflation, which is why it's dangerous.
So that's why I hesitate to say loli irreconcilably equals pedophilia. It's very possible that there is a fantasy/fiction divide from the reality divide. Or maybe not.
That's one of the more fair and nuanced arguments I've seen, at least admitting to the obvious gut reaction most people have to it. Still, I'd say something like rape is inherently different because you're aroused by an idea or action in that case, and not a person.
It seems easier to separate fiction and reality in the form of an attraction to a type of
sex rather than an attraction to a type of
person. You can choose to not rape even if you're aroused by the idea and not be a rapist, whereas if you're attracted to kids then how can you
not be a pedophile? At best you could argue there's a spectrum, certain art styles may make a character look so unrealistic (being attracted to South Park characters for example) that it's not necessarily fair to label someone based on it. Same for body type, there's a difference between a petite woman and a child.
But the thing is, Cartman and Frieren aren't what most lolifags are into. They'll bust a nut to Baby Daisy and try to convince you they're not pedophiles, good luck with that.
As for the rest of your comparisons like inflation, Bronies, etc, there's really not much you can completely compare loli to. Defenders will often say it's comparable to rape fantasies like you did, opposition tends to say it's like homosexuality wherein if you are attracted to yaoi then you're gay (which is true, but gender is much less nuanced than age, there's no room for argument based on interpretation or even art style when there's a cock and balls depicted). The only 1:1 comparison I can think of is gerontophilia, and if you're attracted to elderly anime girls then in real life you're probably a gerontophile too.
I actually can think of one problem.
Ever heard the phrase "the worst way to ruin a movement is to defend it with bad arguments?"
Lots of the ammo wokeists still have comes from grifters making bad arguments that then allow wokies to paint the entire opposition as "people who are mad that the woman's boobs aren't big enough."
Just look at Sargon, for example: anything he got involved in would tank entirely because he was such an autist and always became the face of the thing he was trying to promote, even if the thing in question was actually a good idea.
But this argument presupposes that the anti-woke are making bad arguments. Maybe some do, but that wasn't what I said; I said who gives a shit if these alleged grifters actually care or not. I do care if they're making bad arguments but that's usually not the case in my experience.
