Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

Would you jerk off animals daily for $10,000 a month?


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I'll do you one better. My mother has a dog that was abused by his previous owner. He started off stealing food off plates when you weren't in the same room, to stealing it off your plate when you weren't looking, to stealing it from your hands when you weren't looking in his general direction. Lost my shit once when he stole my fucking beefalo patty. My mother never punishes him correctly for it, fucking pats him on the fucking head while telling him no, so it reinforces that behavior.
My cat stole a lamb chop off my plate while I was talking once.
I just grabbed it back because cat spit doesn’t bother me.
 
My cat stole a lamb chop off my plate while I was talking once.
I just grabbed it back because cat spit doesn’t bother me.
I had a cat steal a (raw) porterhouse steak off the counter that was like an inch and a half thick and weighed more than half as much as the cat. I caught the cat dragging it off very slowly (what did the cat think it was going to do with it?) across the floor. That cat was absolutely insane but I had to admire the gumption.
 
I had a cat steal a (raw) porterhouse steak off the counter that was like an inch and a half thick and weighed more than half as much as the cat. I caught the cat dragging it off very slowly (what did the cat think it was going to do with it?) across the floor. That cat was absolutely insane but I had to admire the gumption.
In enjoying that this has turned into the "cats dragging off things they have no right to" thread.

My first cat did this with cantaloupes. Have never had a cantaloupe captivated cat since.
 
I had a cat steal a (raw) porterhouse steak off the counter that was like an inch and a half thick and weighed more than half as much as the cat. I caught the cat dragging it off very slowly (what did the cat think it was going to do with it?) across the floor. That cat was absolutely insane but I had to admire the gumption.
One of our cats had a habit of doing this. He was a rescue who had been feral for years and I think he just sometimes had ‘I may never eat again, steal it and run’ mode kick in,
He stole:
An entire stuffed chicken - caught him attempting to drag it out the catflap
A pork chop
Multiple bbq things
A bowl of oil- this was the worst one. Caught him halfway down a bowl of cooking oil. The aftermath was initially hilarious (greasy, queasy, bloated looking cat) and then horrific (oil goes through a cat real quick….)
I miss him. He was a great cat.
 
One of our cats had a habit of doing this. He was a rescue who had been feral for years and I think he just sometimes had ‘I may never eat again, steal it and run’ mode kick in,
He stole:
An entire stuffed chicken - caught him attempting to drag it out the catflap
A pork chop
Multiple bbq things
A bowl of oil- this was the worst one. Caught him halfway down a bowl of cooking oil. The aftermath was initially hilarious (greasy, queasy, bloated looking cat) and then horrific (oil goes through a cat real quick….)
I miss him. He was a great cat.
My 15 year old cat usually try to steal stuff. She was faster when she was young but now it is just hillarious. She is also obsessed with uncooked broccoli and will do everything shw can think of (except attacking) to get some, especially screaming at the top of her lungs. I have had her since she was 12 weeks old and she never gone without food. So I don't know where it comes from. My other cats aren't like that, well one has the bad habit of putting her paw into your glass or cup.
 
For about 30 pages I have had a question burning inside me.

What would it look like if someone crossed one of these insane abominations with....a totally normal poodle or something? How much of the horror show phenotype would persist?
Most of them that I've seen in photos look more like a poodle than pit but that might be because the curly fur hides that wide mouth and unique eye shape that pits have.
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When it's not long/curly, it just looks like a pit with hair.
 
Most of them that I've seen in photos look more like a poodle than pit but that might be because the curly fur hides that wide mouth and unique eye shape that pits have.
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When it's not long/curly, it just looks like a pit with hair.
That's just a normal pitbull mixed with a poodle, though. I think they meant mixing the SMASHED & SLAMMED variety with a normal, functional dog.
 

For about 30 pages I have had a question burning inside me.

What would it look like if someone crossed one of these insane abominations with....a totally normal poodle or something? How much of the horror show phenotype would persist?
I imagine a lot like that retarded pibble/dachshund cross that went viral a while back, only even grosser and with longer fur

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For about 30 pages I have had a question burning inside me.

What would it look like if someone crossed one of these insane abominations with....a totally normal poodle or something? How much of the horror show phenotype would persist?
It depends what the driving mutations are - has anyone looked at what genes are being badly fucked up here? Anything that’s a recessive homozygous would go (well the phenotype would go, you’d still be heterozygous for one copy of it, so two of your baby abominations could re surface it…) even one outbreeding tends to stave off a lot of the worst things because you need two copies of it.
The rest I’m not sure - it’s possible you could see most of it go, or that some dominant traits could persist.
You see it in humans - a lot of the UK Pakistani horrorshow stuff Is basic inbreeding and one generation of outbreeding will take it back up to the general population level of retardation. Other times you’ve got a founder effect, which is when one bad gene gets into the population usually becasue randomly one of the founders members carried it, and the population was small, so it spreads. Tay-Sachs and a lot of the stuff that plagues Ashkenazi Jews is like that. Also some of the genetic deafness syndromes, and things like total colour blindness on the island of Pingelap. The Amish, and French Canadians also have diseases that are at higher frequency from this and I think the Mormons do as well (fumarase deficiency?)
It’s always a bit of a ‘roll it and see’ job
 
Can you re-train a dog with problems? Yes. Can you re-train a dog to make it perfectly safe while keeping it out of a shelter or stuck on the street? No. I don't trust most people to be able to safely handle a dog that is extremely poorly socialized or trained into dangerous habbits, even if they've been "trained out". With so many dogs in the shelter system already, trying to save every dog by "re-training" them is basically the best way to ensure it just dies later, the only question is if it has to maul some kid first. Dogs aren't people, they're animals, and animals listen to instincts. Your dog doesn't stay out of the trash because it "knows" that it shouldn't, it stays out because it knows getting into the trash upsets you. If your dog is hungry enough, it will get into the trash again regardless. It has no moral barrier to the behavior. If a dog shows a willingness to bite a human, even one time, it means that it WILL bite again given a similar circumatance, and usually the second time it will happen even sooner because they've already done it. You can train it all you want to show less aggression, or even desensitize it to the specific event that triggered the bite, but you will never be able to predict what other siutation or factors might trigger another. Some dogs are just instinctually less prone to biting - I've dealt with dogs that refuse to bite even when seriously injured and being attacked, and others who would bite at the very first sign of their food being interfered with - in the same litter, even. If a dog's natural threshold for biting is low enough, it will ALWAYS be a threat - you can reduce the threat through training, but it will ALWAYS be there and you CANNOT completely get rid of it.
I agree with all of this. My mom subtly encourages Gwen's begging at the table. She waits until the dog isn't actively clawing her for like 10 seconds and then will stop eating to go the cabinet and give Gwen a treat. That seems to me to just be rewarding the dog for clawing you with extra steps. This isn't even considering the times Mom feeds Gwen scraps from the table, which anyone can see will confuse the dog. Bear's a much larger dog but we have a system; don't feed from the table and don't feed at human mealtime, simple as. Bear can have our leftovers during the cleanup phase and he's fine w it. He's also selectively anorexic and food-discriminating because of the table food feeding thing but that ain't caught up with me yet in terms of Bear being overly fat or anything, so, OK. This is to say that I'm aware that I do this stuff too. We send Bear mixed messages about whether he needs to eat his dog food or hold out for better and as a result he only eats dog food if he's starving and there's nothing attractive in the bins or on the floor. He only avoids the countertops and stove because he's learned the hard way that food in these areas is potentially boiling hot and will burn your mouth if you eat it. Bear has no recall off leash outdoors. He'll just run for the hills, and I don't think I can ever train him that being on a leash is better than freedom. So I don't train it, I just manage his access to the outdoors and my mom manages Gwen's aggression by basically living alone in a unicorn home for a troubled dog. I just hate to see the scratches on my old mum from this dog and its never-trimmed front claws.

Some dogs just fucking love food, same as people. Breeds that are extremely food driven like Labs are known for their ease of training because they'll do whatever you ask them for a stale breadcrust, so it's a trait that gets purposefully selected and can just be something some animals are prone to.

We had a lab mutt who we had to feed from those roller toys because she just loved food so much she'd make herself sick.
Meanwhile I picked a LGD breed whose purpose is to live among sheep and deter wolves, so they can easily ignore hunger and I have to cajole him to eat and provide insanely high value items for training. Yeah he knows how to sit and stay but I have to give him osso busco.

Had a dog that stole a hamburger bun right off someone's burger once. That person was sitting right in front of her eating. She just took the top bun and walked off.
I had a hound that licked the icing off my birthday cake while we sang the song lol. He thought that if he just licked clean the part of the cake facing away from us he'd get away with it. Thankfully it wasn't a chocolate cake.
For about 30 pages I have had a question burning inside me.

What would it look like if someone crossed one of these insane abominations with....a totally normal poodle or something? How much of the horror show phenotype would persist?
Why would you ruin good ingredients like that... is your time worth nothing?
It depends what the driving mutations are - has anyone looked at what genes are being badly fucked up here? Anything that’s a recessive homozygous would go (well the phenotype would go, you’d still be heterozygous for one copy of it, so two of your baby abominations could re surface it…) even one outbreeding tends to stave off a lot of the worst things because you need two copies of it.
The rest I’m not sure - it’s possible you could see most of it go, or that some dominant traits could persist.
You see it in humans - a lot of the UK Pakistani horrorshow stuff Is basic inbreeding and one generation of outbreeding will take it back up to the general population level of retardation. Other times you’ve got a founder effect, which is when one bad gene gets into the population usually becasue randomly one of the founders members carried it, and the population was small, so it spreads. Tay-Sachs and a lot of the stuff that plagues Ashkenazi Jews is like that. Also some of the genetic deafness syndromes, and things like total colour blindness on the island of Pingelap. The Amish, and French Canadians also have diseases that are at higher frequency from this and I think the Mormons do as well (fumarase deficiency?)
It’s always a bit of a ‘roll it and see’ job
I know that the mutation for short legs on Daschunds and Bassetts is congenital, dominant, and analogous to the human gene for achrondroplasic dwarfism. I'm pretty sure this or a convergent mutation is responsible for the lack of long bone growth on our Smashed, Slammed, and beloved toadbullies.
Other than that I don't know much about dog genetics sry.
 
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