Hurricane Helene / Invest 97L

[The Foxtrot]

Here's some pictures from Swannanoa, the town schizophrenics claimed was completely destroyed and had hundreds of corpses hanging from trees.View attachment 6490783View attachment 6490785

It's bad, but it's not Post-Apocalypse bad. I'd still stay away from Asheville.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Were almost at that stage to be quite honest a lot of people whonare white sadly are going to have to find their own country and you're going to see actual white nationalism grow because of anti white bigotry.

Big chance for a Flashpoint if true.

THE FEMA DEATH SQUADS ARE SHOOTING ALL THE WHITES!!!!!!!! IT IS TOTALLY HAPPENING. Yeah, I don't have any video evidence or anything, BUT SOME GUY ON TWITTER SAID IT!!! I BELIVE!!!!

 

[LeChampion1992]

THE FEMA DEATH SQUADS ARE SHOOTING ALL THE WHITES!!!!!!!! IT IS TOTALLY HAPPENING. Yeah, I don't have any video evidence or anything, BUT SOME GUY ON TWITTER SAID IT!!! I BELIVE!!!!

Again big if true, but then again there is no confirmed reports of this. Also considering the situation on the ground and lack of communication the official stories could take weeks if not months to come out.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Repeated word ITT is that there's an almost total communications blackout in Asheville specifically. A lot of the word is coming from people NEAR the area and nobody's being let in.

While I have no idea just how bad it is currently I can tell you most the lines for power and communication are most definately still out. Entire areas of towns have been washed away and so has the infrastructure supporting the area.
As a point of refrence this was from early on and chances are most of this is still out:

Spoiler: Power Outage Refrence

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If there's an outage then there's an outage more than likely all the communications infrastructure is also out along with the power considering the scale and magnitude of the disaster. Celltowers cover wide areas and are placed to maximize coverage, however even then when you're in the mountains there's dead zones. When I hunt in the mountains or hike there's entire mountains that have 0 reception. Typically these celltowers should stay live during a disaster but considering the landslides and how entire highways are just gone I imagine a lot of the connections between it all is severed and may not be functioning. Relief efforts can set up temp bollards and shit to cover some of the area, but the geography and remnants of the disaster would make getting to ideal places a pain in the ass or impossible, and that's provided they are even wasting time doing that when they already have their own radios for communications. You won't get videos from people until they are out of deadzones provided they recorded anything. While I'm all for shooting down retarded notions like FEMA kill squads, most of the people still there are cut off from the world at large and will lack a means of transportation to get out without aid to even be able to upload shit.

But we're clearly seeing many people relocating to shelters with cell service and chargers who are then trying to check in on their communities. People are contacting loved ones to let them know they're safe. And I haven't seen any arrest reports or articles, since this is the same part of the country that rightfully hates the government and has shit like the sheriff blowing away a judge for the sick shit he was doing. A FEMA jackboot or local cop enforcing them absolutely would deal with someone who wasn't having their shit and would probably pull a gun, hit them with their car, etc. This isn't like some protests where the government deliberately cut signals. There should be nothing stopping someone from taking a video of them being stopped and then that person drives to a place with a signal and uploads it. Even boomers know how to do this. So if this is happening, it can't be happening in many places and might be isolated incidents at worst.

Doublepost, but this is my personal observation and unrelated to the content above, so fuck it.
I live a little over 100 miles from where the floods hit in NC. I can tell you that driving past the local mortuary it smelt like fucking corpses. Based off of what I'm hearing from the ground, and what I smelt earlier, they're 100% completely out of room to store dead bodies anywhere more locally, and are shipping stuff around to whoever can take it. At this point I will be shocked if the death toll doesn't blow Katrina out of the water.

Don't most mortuaries have low capacity? I distinctly remember during the scamdemic when the media would shit out articles with nurses whining about why we needed more lockdowns and mask mandates because they were running out of space in the morgue, you'd look up the morgue capacity and it would be like 5-10 bodies at once. I doubt rural North Carolina has a need for big mortuaries when the only people who die is when a boomer finally croaks or the occasional DUI/junkie retard.

I'm only providing what I see.

I don't know of specific LE.

Here's another video of someone complaining about FEMA shutting down local charity efforts.

I can believe there are sheriff's departments saying that, but they can say a lot of things. My sheriff's department posted they would not enforce certain gathering restrictions back in 2020 and also posted that BLM riots would not be tolerated in my county. To my knowledge, there was no one ever arrested or threatened with arrest in my county for violating the governor's retarded decree, nor any BLM protests or riots. How do we know this is any different and the sheriff's department just saying it in case it DOES happen in their county?

In any case, FEMA can't block roads or arrest anyone or shut down charities because they aren't law enforcement. They need to be partnering with some law enforcement agency (town, county, or state) or the National Guard to legally block a road or arrest anyone. So I'm gonna take all this with a grain of salt until I see video evidence of FEMA thugs vs hillbillies, not just someone saying their charity drive was shut down or they were threatened with arrest. I could make a TikTok saying I was almost arrested for trying to pass out food and water, but that wouldn't be proof it's happening. Aren't these people uploading these videos proof that communication is readily available?

First thing. Everyone in the Carolina Mountains were warned. I know this Because I personally warned them in this thread FFS. The fact that the warnings were not heeded is on them. Not the Feds, not the State.

No, it is on the government. 12-18 inches of rain and tropical storm winds were forecast 48 hours out. Where were emergency services preparing to distribute food and water and get the power back on? And this warning should have been blaring from every street corner and all over Boomerbook that people needed to prepare for severe flooding and stockpile food and water. Potentially even open shelters for people who were inevitably screwed because they lived next to a creek.

 

[Sithis]

There has never been a storm with these conditions before in recorded meteorological history and its doubtful there will be another like it for at least 200 years.

Quoting this just in case Milton decides to say fuck a forecast model and curb up into the bend again

 

[Oh Darn]

Don't most mortuaries have low capacity? I distinctly remember during the scamdemic when the media would shit out articles with nurses whining about why we needed more lockdowns and mask mandates because they were running out of space in the morgue, you'd look up the morgue capacity and it would be like 5-10 bodies at once. I doubt rural North Carolina has a need for big mortuaries when the only people who die is when a boomer finally croaks or the occasional DUI/junkie retard.

This is true -- you're not going to have a huge capacity morgue in a place like Swannanoa. Assuming they have a morgue that's still standing, there's going to be reason to ship these bodies out anyway.

My concern is the fact that there's (IIRC) at least 600 missing in Asheville alone, and people from Asheville have reportedly been seeing cold trucks come in, meaning larger communities are also overwhelmed. Have also have been seeing requests for bodybags for some of these areas. Add to that that there are houses either completely enveloped in mud or in sinkholes, and I think the death toll is going to skyrocket, but it's going to take months before we even have an approximate idea of the actual loss of life here.

That's also not even touching on the fact that next week, weather up there is going to drop to the 30's at night. What do you think happens when people who are literally homeless and have lost everything can't get to an overcrowded shelter?

Sidenote, but I am coordinating with folks to run supplies on a very small scale. If any kiwis want to help, send me a DM.

 

[mindlessobserver]

No, it is on the government. 12-18 inches of rain and tropical storm winds were forecast 48 hours out. Where were emergency services preparing to distribute food and water and get the power back on?

They don't exist. They never existed. You are a citizen. You get what you pay for. Much like how many people in millenial flood zones don't buy flood insurance. inland regions don't prepare for hurricanes.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

It's bad, but it's not Post-Apocalypse bad. I'd still stay away from Asheville.

Yeah absolutely. If you don't have business in Asheville or the surrounding area, there's no reason to be there. Even if you live there, I recommend finding someplace to stay for a couple of weeks. It's still absolutely flooded with aid workers, guardsmen, charity volunteers, and search and rescue teams. Anyone there that doesn't absolutely need to be is just someone in the way or an extra mouth to feed.

No, it is on the government. 12-18 inches of rain and tropical storm winds were forecast 48 hours out. Where were emergency services preparing to distribute food and water and get the power back on?

There were literally teams staged for response 1-2 days before, even SAR teams. North Carolina put out EMAC requests for supplies and infrastructure assistance two days before the storm hit. The problem is 1. Nobody predicted this level of devastation 400-500 miles inland from landfall, 2. Retards didn't evacuate, despite the fact that a mandatory evacuation order was issued for some of these areas, and the government requisitioned school busses and Greyhounds to provide transport, and 3. It is hard as fuck to traverse the area up there. Even on good days it is difficult for heavy equipment to traverse fucking Appalachia, and now there's no roads and no power to a lot of these remote areas. Not to mention that, in some areas, the terrain itself has shifted. Where houses and neighborhoods used to be, there's thousands of tons of rock and mud that slid down a mountain.

law enforcement agency (town, county, or state) or the National Guard to legally block a road or arrest anyone.

This reminds me, I have something to report. I have seen some people posting stuff about unmarked federal law enforcement officers or dudes in tactical gear with no markings, of course speculation is what you'd expect. Anyways, I was curious and asked around, and these guys are Bureau of Prisons officers that have been deputized to assist with relief efforts. They are primarily there for site security at relief centers so there's not a repeat of the Superdome during Katrina. They should be able to provide credentials upon request. Some of them have badges but it's not universal, but they all will have law enforcement IDs.

This leads me into a other tangent, if you are being given orders and are not sure who they are or if they're legit, ask to see credentials. All agencies are required to provide them and the vast majority of the time it doesn't bother them at all. If someone refuses to provide credentials, they're a fraud, and if they are an asshole about it, report them immediately to the site commander, because that shit isn't tolerated.

 

[ATI Escapee]

Is there an estimate of how many people are still missing, or do we still not have enough insight to guess? I read the death toll is just over 230 now. Heartbreaking.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

They don't exist. They never existed. You are a citizen. You get what you pay for. Much like how many people in millenial flood zones don't buy flood insurance. inland regions don't prepare for hurricanes.

No, it's because the government stole all the money to give "immigrants" (both legal and illegal" free flights to cities nationwide. FEMA has become the firemen of Fahrenheit 451 where they cause the disaster instead of cleaning up after it.

If inland areas don't prepare for hurricanes, that's very surprising. Many hurricanes have caused severe inland flooding, especially from the brown ocean effect. Hurricane Agnes for instance, or a few hurricanes that hit Oklahoma. It's probably only a matter of time before the Ozarks or Cumberland Plateau get hit like this, even if it can't be as bad because the mountains/hills are much lower there. IIRC Hurricane Katrina did trigger tropical storm warnings in Tennessee and Kentucky. You'd think such an obvious and predictable flood risk would have an emergency plan that would activate, at least assuming it hasn't been blown on ensuring thousands of brown people get dumped in your rural county.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

unlike the losses from Katrina (which were blown entirely out of proportion), which have been the focus of every news report every time someone says "hurricane" and "Gulf of Mexico" in the same breath, because of skin color.

(Please forgive me for going slightly OT for a second)
I do think a lot of people only mention Katrina because it’s the only big hurricane they really remember or know the name of. Obviously, Louisiana has been hit since then, more recently Laura (cat 4) and Ida (cat 4).

The thing that irks me about Katrina is that the media was really hyperfocused on NO and the levee breaking. And that was certainly horrible, but meanwhile south Mississippi was utterly fucking destroyed. I don’t just mean the coast either, where they were graced with a 25 ft wall of water. I mean all the way up to Hattiesburg.

There’s a big hospital in Hattiesburg that ended up building their own damn giant water tower after that mess. A major hospital, that not only served that city but most of the surrounding rural areas as well, was incapacitated for weeks, and do you want to know what the media was talking about? How unfair it was that niggers in NOLA were being accused of looting while white people allegedly got away with it.

Anyway, thank you to all those in this thread who are keeping us updated. Don’t forgot about these people. The media will, the government sure as hell will. But if you can help, please do so.

 

[clipartfan92]

I'm glad we're giving them $385 mil so far this year, definitely nothing at home that it could be spent on.

https://x.com/VP/status/1842710797241434259 (archive.ph)
edit: Added the Blinken post from yesterday.

https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1842324958208565544 (archive.ph)

 

[LowlyPheasent]

That's also not even touching on the fact that next week, weather up there is going to drop to the 30's at night. What do you think happens when people who are literally homeless and have lost everything can't get to an overcrowded shelter?

If they didn't have some sort of shelter during the flooding, they very well'd be dead now. If you're soaking wet it doesn't need to drop below freezing for you to suffer hypothermia. There's also shelters outside the area being provided but the best thing to do would be to go stay with family who weren't effected if you can. Unless you have the means to stay, it'd be best to just get out for the time being if someone can't help with the relief efforts.

 

[Oh Darn]

If they didn't have some sort of shelter during the flooding, they very well'd be dead now. If you're soaking wet it doesn't need to drop below freezing for you to suffer hypothermia. There's also shelters outside the area being provided but the best thing to do would be to go stay with family who weren't effected if you can. Unless you have the means to stay, it'd be best to just get out for the time being if someone can't help with the relief efforts.

You're assuming these people have anywhere to go, or have the means or ability to go at all. There are people out here who survived whose houses are fucked. Even if your house is damaged, but habitable, you likely don't have electricity and are still struggling with exposure issues, even if you have some kind of dwelling.

Case in point: https://x.com/gbiffle/status/1842699117484487001

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

This section of the declaration of independence sticks in my mind.
"and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

We're gonna need a few more years to get there. The states (Excluding the eternal CA-TX shitflinging fight) haven't been trying to fuck with each other yet on a big enough scale yet.

We hold that the Government thus established is subject to the two great principles asserted in the Declaration of Independence; and we hold further, that the mode of its formation subjects it to a third fundamental principle, namely: the law of compact. We maintain that in every compact between two or more parties, the obligation is mutual; that the failure of one of the contracting parties to perform a material part of the agreement, entirely releases the obligation of the other; and that where no arbiter is provided, each party is remitted to his own judgment to determine the fact of failure, with all its consequences.

This leads me into a other tangent, if you are being given orders and are not sure who they are or if they're legit, ask to see credentials. All agencies are required to provide them and the vast majority of the time it doesn't bother them at all. If someone refuses to provide credentials, they're a fraud, and if they are an asshole about it, report them immediately to the site commander, because that shit isn't tolerated.

You say that, but I am going to point you the (alleged) FBI goons who visited someone for his facebook posts and refused to show ID because he was filming them.

At the same time, if you hound the guys in the ground of a bunch of questions the answer is going to be talk to the officer in command, whose (probably) gonna refer you to the Point of Contact for information (Think White House press correspondent retard but for FEMA). It's just how the SOP is in most places

If inland areas don't prepare for hurricanes, that's very surprising. Many hurricanes have caused severe inland flooding, especially from the brown ocean effect. Hurricane Agnes for instance, or a few hurricanes that hit Oklahoma. It's probably only a matter of time before the Ozarks or Cumberland Plateau get hit like this, even if it can't be as bad because the mountains/hills are much lower there. IIRC Hurricane Katrina did trigger tropical storm warnings in Tennessee and Kentucky. You'd think such an obvious and predictable flood risk would have an emergency plan that would activate, at least assuming it hasn't been blown on ensuring thousands of brown people get dumped in your rural county.

Inland areas don't prepare as much for flooding in OK/TX. There's also a bit of fact in that you can't prepare enough.

There’s a big hospital in Hattiesburg that ended up building their own damn giant water tower after that mess. A major hospital, that not only served that city but most of the surrounding rural areas as well, was incapacitated for weeks, and do you want to know what the media was talking about? How unfair it was that niggers in NOLA were being accused of looting while white people allegedly got away with it.

There is a reason why the urban-rural divide is so bad in the US and this is one of them.

 

[booklover]

One of my rightward-leaning Facebook friends posted something about 14,000 people being declared missing. I replied that a number like that most likely came from people being on multiple lists.

I have two cousins in the Black Mountain area, but they are both safe.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

They're definitely planning to flood the mountains with immigrants. The mountains represent a strategic chokepoint between the US East and Central. If it's held by conservatives they can't genocide the population as effectively.

Josh I don't think you've ever been to bum **** North Carolina there's literally no way to flood because there's no houses whatsoever the town I lived in had a post office a general story any trash dump.
Also when your nearest neighbour is a mile away and Pablo Pablo and Pablo start getting uppity jebediah cletus are going to form a good old lynching mob and the four cops that control the entire area are too busy covering up the meth lab

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It is hard as fuck to traverse the area up there. Even on good days it is difficult for heavy equipment to traverse fucking Appalachia, and now there's no roads and no power to a lot of these remote areas.

I drove through the Appalachias and yeah it's not easy in winter, let alone after a hurricane has destroyed the roads.

And yes, it's remote, insular and just not the kind of place illegals would want to be in.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

the kind of place illegals would want to be in.

The only kind of place illegals wanna be in are places with somewhere they can transfer all the gibs they get back to the Cartels.

 

[The Foxtrot]

The only kind of place illegals wanna be in are places with somewhere they can transfer all the gibs they get back to the Cartels.

And deep in the middle of hillbilly Appalachia is pretty much the exact opposite. Hell, it's why they only really congregate around cities like Charlotte, if they're not in a border state.