Was Hurricane Milton a nothing burger?

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A Cardboard Box said:
I'd like a reliable source on that.
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From some old popsci article back after Katrina on various ways to combat hurricanes:
Dyn-O-Mat in Jupiter, Florida, manufactures superabsorbent products, such as garage mats designed to soak up oil from leaky cars. The firm is developing a gel that has shown promise in early trials. In July 2001, Dyn-O-Mat engineers dumped 8,000 pounds of their Dyn-O-Gel (an amount capable of absorbing 4,000 tons of water) over a small thunderstorm near the Florida coast. Within minutes, the storm disappeared from Doppler weather radar.

In a hurricane, the result would be two-fold. First, as the clouds dried out, the storm would wither. Then, as superchilled Dyn-O-Gel droplets fell into the ocean beneath a storm, they would further weaken it by cooling the warm water that fuels its growth.

Dyn-O-Mat’s founder and CEO, Peter Cordani, has already arranged to lease a specially rigged 747 “supertanker” to conduct trials on actual hurricanes.
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Apparently Wikipedia also talks about it and NOAA cutting ties.
 
Abbadon's Gate said:
Fine, you've convinced me, I'll have to eat the L on that, though the terminology is incredibly stupid. There's vast differences between the Gulf and the Atlantic.
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There would be no hurricanes in the Gulf if it weren’t for the Atlantic. It has no separate body of water to form hurricanes. The Mississippi River wouldn’t provide enough for that on it’s own. The only other source of water it gets is from the Caribbean Sea, and that too is a part of the Atlantic.

You can sperg out to actual weather tracking organizations about what you think hurricanes in the Gulf should be classified. But most people don’t view it as autistically as you do.
 
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Abbadon's Gate said:
Pure semantics for the sake of argument. The Atlantic and the Gulf behave very differently, especially since one is considerably more shallow and warm than the other.
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If Atlantic hurricanes were separated into Gulf and Atlantic then by your definition Milton would be the strongest Gulf Hurricane on record you retard.
 
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A Cardboard Box said:
I'm sure your reasoning is sound and you have very compelling arguments. You should write a letter to NOAA and the NHC.
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I'll do that once I'm done consoling you about how, aside from naming conventions you were wrong about literally every other facet of the storm and are seething about it.

It wasn't worthy of a Category 6 moniker. I doubt it came close to the upper limits of what the atmosphere could produce. It dropped two categories the moment it hit land. Overhyped, Over sensationalized. More of a logistical problem than anything.
 
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Well, it was fun watching the weather autists speculate pre-feature, anyway. Not sure why anyone wants to see more dead white people though, disturbing!
 
Deo_Terra said:
If Atlantic hurricanes were separated into Gulf and Atlantic then by your definition Milton would be the strongest Gulf Hurricane on record you retard.
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Sure. And it still wouldn't have been worthy of a Category Six moniker, and would have still been overhyped. It doesn't matter what you call it or what it theoretically could have done. In reality, it was ultimately a nothingburger.
 
Abbadon's Gate said:
Sure. And it still wouldn't have been worthy of a Category Six moniker, and would have still been overhyped. It doesn't matter what you call it or what it theoretically could have done. In reality, it was ultimately a nothingburger.
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Nothing is worthy of category Six that category physically can’t exist because there’s no actual upper limit to category Five it’s a damage scale not wind speed scale and the fact you think anyone takes the retards who suggest that for every new cat 5 seriously makes you also a retard.
 
Deo_Terra said:
Nothing is worthy of category Six that category physically can’t exist because there’s no actual upper limit to category Five it’s a damage scale not wind speed scale and the fact you think anyone takes the retards who suggest that for every new cat 5 seriously makes you also a retard.
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Again, this isn't me claiming that. Go back to the first 50 pages of this thread you will find people echoing that.

I thought it was silly too. Its like saying we need an F6 Tornado when F5 pretty much covers complete and utter desolation.
 
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A Cardboard Box said:
Holy shit, you're actually retarded. This is incredible.

Hey, retard, wanna know a secret? "Atlantic Hurricane" is a technical term. It has an actual, functional definition that NOAA, NWS, and everyone else on the planet uses. Milton was literally, by definition, according to the people that created the term, an "Atlantic Hurricane."

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This whole exchange is reminding me of how I kinda made a buddy upset last night with "semantics".

Buddy: Milton has made landfall.
Me: It shouldn't have? The eye is still at least 4-5 hours out from touching the shore.
Buddy: The outer bands have started impacting Florida so it counts.
Me: No it doesn't? A tropical storm is only considered to have made "landfall" when the eye touches land.
Buddy: But the eye doesn't actually touch anything. There's nothing within the eye for it to touch.
Me: Right, but the official definition for "landfall" is when the center portion of a tropical system moves inland.
Buddy: Okay, THE WORST PART OF THE STORM IS HERE. Are you happy?

Also my buddy, about 2 hours later after we moved on from this: Okay, the center is starting to touch the coast, OR DOES THE WHOLE EYE NEED TO BE ON LAND?

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Shit, man. I didn't decide on the official definitions for these words, but a fact is a fact.
 
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Abbadon's Gate said:
I'll do that once I'm done consoling you about how, aside from naming conventions you were wrong about literally every other facet of the storm and are seething about it.

It wasn't worthy of a Category 6 moniker. I doubt it came close to the upper limits of what the atmosphere could produce. It dropped two categories the moment it hit land. Overhyped, Over sensationalized. More of a logistical problem than anything.
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The storm that ripped the roof off a stadium, dropped a crane and flooded thousands of homes and spawned dozens of tornados is a nothing burger?
 
MadStan said:
The storm that ripped the roof off a stadium, dropped a crane and flooded thousands of homes and spawned dozens of tornados is a nothing burger?
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Yeah faggot. If you build by the water shit happens.

This is why its pointless talking to non-Floridians about this shit. You don't understand that wind and water damage is nothing. A stadium's roof got ripped off? Well its effectively a large piece of sheet metal, that's basically a sail of course its going away. A crane fell over? The crane wasn't secure because they didn't have time to break it down.

Most houses weren't slabbed. Hundreds aren't dead in Tampa due to flooding and storm surge. Buildings while damaged are largely still standing. What meteorologist spent the last week telling everyone was going to be certain death for Florida was, about the same thing we deal with all the time. The shit we prepare for. Its nothing to be bothered by. This is business as usual for us, and part of what you accept when you move here.

So yes, its a nothing burger.
 
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